User talk:Mellen22

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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia

Welcome!

Hello, Mellen22, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! Doug.(talk • contribs) 04:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming me. Mellen22 (talk) 22:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help please with APA

I'm in grad school and we are using APA style. I notice that the link in the toolbox called 'cite this page' adds a time stamp to the APA citation when the page was accessed. I've looked at the APA style guide, the newly released APA web guide, and the Wikipedia article on APA. And I can't find any comment about including a time stamp. And I'm not sure where to ask this question, since a tool doesn't have its own talk page. Mellen22 (talk) 17:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

If you are wanting to time stamp something, which you always should, use ~~~~ Dustitalk to me 19:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I do understand that if I post something in a talk page I should mark it with ~~~~ . But I was asking about a software tool that wikipedia has. In the toolbox in the left margin is a link called 'cite this page'. (only on regular content pages; not talk pages) Clicking on it takes the user to a special page that shows how to cite the page in an academic paper. The citation for APA shows a time stamp (time and date) for when the page was accessed. I can find no source which says that APA style calls for or allows the time the page was accessed. All sources say that date alone should be shown. Anyone have any clue who I would ask why this tool cites the time? My entire class is waiting with baited breath. Mellen22 (talk) 23:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, ask the same question on the talkpage of the tool Wikipedia talk:Citing Wikipedia, the users on that page can help you. Mion (talk) 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd recommend the above user's suggestion, but if that doesn't work, try Wikipedia:Reference desk. Personally (I have recently been using APA as well) I did not believe that the time was included. Also, here's a website my history teacher gave me on APA: [1]. Also try [2].  Laptopdude  Talk  23:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! Mellen22 (talk) 23:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Village Pump

If you have no luck getting any change, I would bring it to Village Pump for you. I definately think its important that the timestamp should be removed in favour of a permalink if that is more correct format. I don't think that low-traffic is really an excuse for ignoring this issue. Wikipedia is trying to become more academically recognized, and the 'cite this page' tool would be useful in achieving that objective. So, if change doesn't come about, I'll propose it at village pump with you. Billscottbob (talk) 03:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You seem to be doing just fine, even if you are new. If you want to be adopted, I can adopt you.
Anyways, Wikipedia:Village Pump (proposals) would be the right place, as regular editors can't change Special pages. Billscottbob (talk) 19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)