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[edit] Current Squad - Adrian Caceres

Caceres is still at the club and will be until the end of the ACL. This means that people should NOT remove him from the squad section. CACERES IS STILL AT THE MELBOURNE VICTORY THEREFORE HE IS STILL IN THE CURRENT SQUAD! He can be removed from the current squad when his contract expires on the 30th June 2008. 122.108.28.40 (talk) 06:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Victory club logo

Why has the Victory club logo been removed? Was it some kind of copyright issue? HorseloverFat 08:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I reckon it was removed because it was in SVG (vector) format and didn't have a justification for Fair Use. Dragases 00:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current Season Transfers

Is there any support to put this section back in? Or at least a link to where it is if it's on another page? Mikhael04 02:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


Its on the current season page - Melbourne Victory season 2007-08 I think it should stay there, as it clutters up the main page too much.

--ElZilcho 07:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, when I posted above comment, the season page wasn't around. Season page is a nice place to put it though Mikhael04 10:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kristan Sarkies is not a player of note

Well not yet. He hasn't done anything to make himself a player of note.


He is a current member of our Olympic team, has a couple of Socceroo caps, and scored some important goals in our championship season. If you dont have the decency to even sign your work on here, dont bother at all.


--ElZilcho 08:24, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Important goals?? What 2 goals against Perth AFTER we had already secured the premiership? Or the last goal of 6 when the Grand Final was very much secured. 3 Goals in 2 season does NOT make him notable.

And Saying he is a member of the Olympic team does not make him notable. Vince Lia is a former Olyroo captain and Championship winner. Michael Ferrante captained West Ham to the Youth FA Cup and is also a Championship winner. By your logic, both these two should also be included.

--Fritzxer 12:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Interesting point. In that case, what is the justification for having Claeys and Kitzbichler as noteables? Perhaps we need a coherant "notable" policy :)

--ElZilcho 02:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Claeys and Kitzbichler had had long and distinguished careers before played for Melbourne, both were internationals and both were First team players adored by the fans. But I agree that a clear criteria is needed.

--Fritzxer 12:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


Hoggy 06:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)Grand final winner, international representative (one of four that have represented Australia whilst playing for Melbourne, scorer in the Grand Final, etc, etc. He should be there

[edit] IMPORTANT - Adding players before their transfers are confirmed.

With the recent transfers involving Carlos Hernandez, and now Kaz Patafta, we are having problems with people getting a little bit too excited and adding players as soon as the move is bandied about in the press. I know Melbourne are pulling off some FANTASTIC signings this season, but can we try to keep a lid on it until things are official. This is the way Wiki should run - DO NOT ADD players until their transfer is confirmed by the club. Please :)

--ElZilcho 01:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed - althought I have added Patafta as he has offically been signed now: http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/default.aspx?s=mvfc_playerprofile_item&pid=1335 but yes, I do agree, don't add any players until the Victory makes a statement confirming the signing. Mikhael04 07:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carlos Hernández

I know at the moment it's only a rumour, but remember, we removed Fred before he officially left, so I'm seeing some double standards here seeing that the Carlos Hernández rumour has been mentioned in the Age, multiple South American newspapers, and Tony Irving refused to deny it.

So, although it's fine not having him up there as he's not officially signed, I'm just a bit confused to the official policy. Mikhael04 07:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Hernández has signed a loan deal with the Victory now for 2 years, but "yet to be confirmed by either clubs"? Mr Poodles said it perfectly "You know what Australian football controlled by FFA sites are like, always late in releasing news." So, can the person doing the editing reply here so we can have a conversation about what to do? I personally don't feel like an editing war. I'm open to change, but the only thing that's missing for Carlos is a report from the teams. 124.180.97.37 04:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Until the transfer is confirmed by the clubs, his transfer should not be added to this page. Players have often been known to claim one thing, only for the other to happen. Alot goes on behind the scenes in a transfer that even the play involved is not privy to. Wikipedia should be based on FACTUAL information, not the word of a player hoping for a move. If you are going to argue a position, at least have the decency to register as a Wiki user. ElZilcho 12:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I have, I just forgot to sign in, sorry. Thank you for clearing that up, it's just if you look down this page a bit I was in a situation before where I was told the opposite. I won't put Carlos in until he's officially signed (although I apologise if anyone else does). Mikhael04 02:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Finally confirmed by the club. Now we can all be friends again :D ElZilcho 04:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocking Changes

Can some request the page doesn't get updated by new or unregistered users... the page got raped last night —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daims09 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC).

hey i have just re edited the page to get rid of the stupid and rude comments added onto it.this is my first action on wikipedia and im proud to clean up this page for my club. Its really quite sad that some people would write that kind of shit on the page i mean its just stupid. this site was made to share information and stuff not for people to be dicks and call people like ernie merrick "penis lovers." i hope this doesnt happen again but i guess it will which is really sad. i agree with the above comment of no new users update the page, even if it means i cant update it.--Nerv2004 13:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change to Sqaud Page

Ive made, some adjustments to the sqaud page... some one had listed almost every former players as a 'notable' player.. which is b/s so instead i restarted the list of Victory players page... which I have added with all the players so it should be update to date. You can find it under the notable players.

I have also changed the train on sqaud to have only current train on players... and also added them to the Melbourne Victory Players thread with a * to show them as train on players only. Otherwise we could list stacks of players moving forward... best only to keep current players.

Edit; 16/04/07 some one will need to add the train on sqaud again... with the vanderlism last night.. not sure who was what or who

[edit] Indivdual Honours

Ive removed all the media awards... stick to offical a-league awards.. otherwise you could add 50 media related awards... So I say stick to the offical ones. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daims09 (talk • contribs) 05:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Terrace 27

Terrace 27 is a small yet influencial group on the terrace at all MVFC matches. It exists I assure you. No need to remove it - it is as an important crew as frontline and OSS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.239.146.52 (talk) 10:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

I read that, not as "Terrace 27 should be included", but rather "OSS and Frontline should be deleted" .. -- Chuq 02:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Can people stop deleting Terrace 27 as a supporter group? Its an insult. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Inclusion or non-inclusion isn't supposed to be taken personally. -- Chuq 02:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed T-27 as this group has dis-banded.

--Fritzxer 1:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New signing confirmed

http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=7129&pageid=71

http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/default.aspx?s=playerprofile&pid=308

No player number yet. The Frederick 03:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Melbourne has pinched Abel Xavier from LA Galaxy at the last moment: http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,21745664-5000940,00.html "Victory also announced yesterday it had signed former Portuguese international and Middlesbrough defender Abel Xavier"

Where else is it reported? Not here, Newsnow.co.uk football transfers - keyword xavier

[edit] Added club song

I think it's an important aspect of the club. I've confirmed with MVFC the lyrics are correct. Bernard.herrok 03:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Club Honours

I believe we should only list the awards the club has won, otherwise, the list could easily end up with ridiculous "honours". An example to note is the Preston Lions FC article; the club have only won a Docherty Cup, a few VPL titles and the occasional VIC Divisional premiership, but list every "Runner-Up" appearance as a legitimate Honour. Dragases 06:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 06/07

Could we possibly integrate this with the history section? Mr. Poodles 05:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 07/08 Kit

Does anyone have any references for the new 07/08 Victory kit? I can't find anything anywhere. It should be removed unless some references are out there.

-- Tony Ising has mentioned it on the main fan board, mentioning that the discussions with Reebok are complete for a new home kit, been common knowledge for awhile that we're adopting a new one. Also with the away kit changing while the poll on the official site, it's very easy to guess that the current one displayed is it. Wait a few months I say, until at least the start of the new season before it's edited. Mr. Poodles 05:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

They've released the new kit designs. [1] I've changed the images accordingly. The Frederick 14:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fred

Has anyone got any real confirmation of Fred moving to DC United? All I hear is that it's "nearly signed", I haven't actually heard anything from the Victory, DC United or even Fred himself. Anyone got any real proof or is it just a major rumour right now?--Mikhael04 00:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It has happened, DC United have confirmed it and so has Fred's agent. You know what Australian football controlled by FFA sites are like, always late in releasing news. International friendlys are always known months before they are announced, same with transfers. Mr. Poodles 04:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Former Players

Is Claudinho really a 'notable' former player? He really didn't make much of an impact and had barely any game time during the 06/07 season.

Yeh, I removed it, notable former player my arse. Mr. Poodles 09:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone added Sarkies as a notable former player. I'm changing, it, 'cause he really isn't famous, and really didn't do anything. The Frederick 10:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, leave Sarkies off the list for the moment. Maybe in the future if he represents Australia at senior national level he can be added. Raph89 04:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sarkies was added again, I'm gonna take him out again. If someone wants to discuss it, they're free to do so here. The Frederick 07:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unregistered Users

This article cops a lot of vandalism, I was thinking that newly registered users and non-users should be prevented from editing the article. Mr. Poodles 09:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Membership numbers per season

Is it possible to include a membership section and the average home crowd attendances. As done on the AFL club sites. I understand the Victory's membership for season 05-06 was aprox 6,500 and 06-07 was 11,000.

Cheers Al. 203.214.41.97 01:52, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ernie Merrick's nationality

Isn't Ernie Merrick an Australian citizen? If so, why does he still have a Scottish flag next to his name? S3tTz 07:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)