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[edit] Qatar Airways

QR have not announced that they will be flying into Melbourne. They've only won the right to do so. Wait until QR make an announcement, don't jump the gun. --splashmo 05:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] O'Connor Airlines?

Why has O'Connor airlines been removed? Has it stopped flying, or just stopped flying to Melbourne? And if it has, then perhaps O'Connor Airlines should be updated. -- Adz|talk 06:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

O'Connor are still operating between Mt. Gambier and Melbourne, according to their website.--splashmo 05:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Turns out that O'Connor is under Qantas Terminal - their flights depart from the same area as QantasLink and they are a Qantas Partner Airline. It's a little misleading I know, having Terminal 1 listed as the Qantas Terminal.--splashmo 05:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

To add to this discussion, O'Connor is now no more, being declared bankrupt. MEBpilot (talk) 23:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] United Airlines.

United Airlines flies to Melbourne from Los Angeles Via Sydney. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:66.143.117.237 (talk • contribs)

That's true. However, the concensus here in WikiProject Airports is that one should only list the destination city in which a passenger can dis/embark. UA flies via Sydney, that is correct, but a passenger cannot ride on UA from MEL and disembark at SYD. UA has no rights to transport domestic passemgers, therefore we do not list SYD as a destination of UA from MEL. Elektrik Blue 82 21:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian Airlines

A thread on another website about this: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449023 -- Chuq 04:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, a forum isn't an encyclopedic source for the information. /ɪlεktʃɹɪk bluː/ 20:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
That wasn't my point - I just linked that since there was discussion about this article happening off-site. My point was that valid information was being removed, and even when being added by many different people, no-one reverting thought that it was possible it may have been correct! A 10 second google news search would have found a valid source. -- Chuq 01:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I did not imply that that was your point. Regarding the source, it is a policy here in Wikipedia that the editor that adds new information has the burden of providing the source. Thus, do not expect others to go out of their way and confirm information that was added by other editors. See WP:SOURCE. Cheers. /ɪlεktʃɹɪk bluː/ 15:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm aware of the policy, but newbies may not be, and to them it may look like they are being bitten. It probably would have been easier to add {{fact}}. -- Chuq 23:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah, true. I have to agree. I'll keep that in mind next time. The only thing frustating though is that sometimes adding {{fact}} does nothing; the newbie editor doesn't add the required citations. /ɪlεktʃɹɪk bluː/ 23:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I can see both sides as well - in the thread linked above, I suggested that they check the edit history if their edits have been removed, but I don't think any of them did! -- Chuq 00:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Just to let yas know, IPs could also change too (even on Broadband/cable), Also there are users that may still be on dialup, thus the varied IPs may be only 2 or 3 users. There are one or two out there that have had a history looking at the contribs. --Arnzy (talk • contribs) 00:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Qatar Air

Yes, as many of us know via the newspaper, Qatar Air has just been approved daily flights to an Australian City, however Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I know one of the IP editors is a poster from the Skyscrapercity forum, and I ask, please do not add them on untill they officially announce the start date, as once again, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball for unconfirmed events. --Arnzy (talk • contribs) 15:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi there,

Very true, wikipedia isnt a crystal ball. In regards to Qatar Airways and their flights to MEL, Qatar Airways has confirmed and intended for years to make Melbourne their first destination in Australia during the Victorian Premier, Steve Bracks visit to Doha a couple years back. Here is my source.

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best regards. JU580 09:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terminal 4 at MEL

Im wondering where the information has been received for a fourth terminal, especially domestic has come from. And besides, the only airline listed, Tiger Airways is providing a flight originating at Singapore, which certainly aint domestic.JU580 18:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

There is a disused 'Domestic Express' terminal at the (southern?) end, past the VirginBlue Terminal. I have photos of it. It was used around 2001 by Impulse anirlines and Virgin Blue before the collapse of Ansett. It had 5 gates and was construced using demountable buildings. It was very similar to the original VirginBlue terminal at Sydney Airport, east of the old Ansett Terminal (T2?). Last time I was at Melbourne airport it was still there and appeared to be mothballed. I imagine it wouldn't take much to bring it back to life. I can provide photos if anybody is interested. -- Adz|talk 02:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Where have you been, JU580? Tiger Airways has just launched an offshoot for domestic destinations in Australia, using the name Tiger Airways Australia, TT. Melbourne Terminal 4 is TT's main base. Sources: [2],[3] --Zack2007 02:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Adz, i think i know what your talking about. Is it connected to the airport building?

Zack2007, At the time i wrote the comment, all was knwon was Darwin and it seemed to be originating from Singapore. I knew they intended to open routes in the domestic Australian market. JU580 22:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melb Airport Hotels

I have removed it from the article as it's unsourced and also Wikipedia isn't a travel guide. Bidgee (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ground/Cargo Handlers in airline listing

Before I do it myself, want agreement that Ground/Cargo handlers should NOT be in the airline listing as they do not operate any aircraft or don't operate to MEL... examples Menzies and DHL. First is only a ground/cargo handler and second is a cargo carrier but doesn't operate (except VERY rarely) into MEL they use capacity on other aircraft. I propose they be removed from the list. 58.104.106.215 (talk) 05:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Seconding this... ANZ Cargo should also be removed from the list as they do not operate their own freighters, they commonly use those of Atlas Air (listed seperately). MEBpilot (talk) 23:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

ANZ simply use Atlas Air's aircraft (ACMI), ANZ have their own cargo division, along with their own cargo service. It is listed in the schedule as an ANZ operated flight, using a 747 Freighter. This isn't DHL using the cargo hold of a Qantas aircraft, it is ANZ operating their own flight. It might be appropriate to list it under Atlas Air, but it certainly should be listed. Mvjs (talk) 06:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pacific Blue to not be listed under Virgin Blue

Whilst I can understand where this originated from they are actually two seperate companies entirely and they have head offices in seperate countries and have aircraft registered in seperate countries. Only link between the two is that PB is owned outright by VB, but that is in the background... VB don't even handle PB flights in AUS... I suppose the same can be said for Jetstar. I don't know if it is accurate to list the airlines the way we have been, as apart from being owned by a common company (VB own PB & QF own JQ) they have little in common. 58.104.106.215 (talk) 05:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

I think it's fair to say this article meets the criteria for B class. Plenty of citations, supporting material, grammar, spelling and is now properly structured Mvjs (talk) 13:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awards section

Isn't this a bit of WP:CRUFT, surely one can just check out all the awards http://www.melbourneairport.com.au/about_airport/awards.asp , most major airports around the world have won some sort of award...there are so many awards out there given out by so many organisations. Michellecrisp (talk) 02:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It's perfectly acceptable at other major airports, and the linked page has some omissions. In fact, some airports have a separate article in addition to discussing awards in the main article, e.g. KLIA Awards & Recognitions and Singapore Changi Airport awards and accolades. Mvjs (talk) 11:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)