Talk:Mel Ignatow
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[edit] Questions regarding the Tape Recordings
I just completed reading Bob Hills' book about the Brenda Sue Schaefer murder "Double Jeopardy:Obsession, Murder, and Justice Denied" (copyright 1995) and I noticed two possible discrepancies with the Wikipedia article as presently shown.
1) The Wikipedia article says "Ignatow tape recorded what he did to Brenda and these recordings were later played to the jury. The transcipt is as follows..." but I see no mention of this tape recording at all in Mr. Hills book.
2) The Wikipedia article says (regarding the taped conversation between Ignatow and Mary Ann Shore) "However, he mumbled the word "dug" and the jury also thought he said the word "safe" instead of "grave" on the tape" but Mr.Hills book only suggests that the word "safe" might have been "site", never mentioning "grave" as a possibility. existed 2)Brenda's body was found before the trial 3)Mary Ann Shore was not an immediate suspect. This is a terribly written page! However, in spite of whatever evidence was presented to the jury, there was no way that an all white jury in KENTUCKY would let a black prosecutor win over a white defence attorney, and put a white defendant in prison for any reason.
- We need to add some references for this article. Hills' book would probably be one. RJFJR 17:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- I added the Verify tag to the article in response to the concerns raised above. Part of the message requests citations to sources. RJFJR 18:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] What was meant by this?
"Brenda's badly decomposed body was not been there for over a year. " Rich Farmbrough. 16:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Personal opinion not appropriate for an encyclopedia!
Wikipedia articles *must* be written with a neutral point-of-view and subjective writing is verboten. OK? I am very sorry for the loss of life in this case, and I feel pretty much the same as everyone else does about Ignatow, *BUT* leave out the personal opinion, please! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 23:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Removed tag, as this article seems fine to me...and is months old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.24.35.55 (talk) 11:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- The article does seem to have a lot of jabs at Ignatow, the murder trial jurors, etc. While of course any reasonable person would probably agree with the jabs, the goal we are after here is neutrality, even in cases like this. Ultimately inline sources would probably help this article a good deal. I have made some initial cleanup edits. --W.marsh 16:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- If someone wants to take the time to pick through it, the problematic stuff (along with some good stuff and spelling corrections) seems to have been introduced since last June when I rewrote this; [1]. --RobthTalk 16:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC) (Note-everything in the first version in that diff has been confirmed with news articles; should have used inline sources at the time to make that clear.) --RobthTalk
