User talk:Mehmet Karatay

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[edit] Steenbok

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[edit] Mount Kenya

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Mount Kenya is an incredible article. I regrettably ran across it when I was cleaning up vandalism. I stayed long enough to read it and realized what a truly amazing piece of work it is. Congratulations. Trusilver 02:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


Thank you very very much! If it interested you then check back every now and then as we still have loads of plans to expand it as we mention on the talkpage. Most of the work is being done in our sandboxes. Here is a template we will eventually include in all articles. At the moment each section links to our sandbox articles.
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Mount Kenya

History • Geology • Mountaineering • Climate • Ecology • Geography • People • Names list
Mehmet Karatay 09:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I will do that, and I wanted to discuss this with you before I did anything; especially since I don't know if there is much more that you intend to do with this article. This article is the first time that I have ever considered nominating a piece of work for featured article status (see WP:FA), If you are satisfied that this body of work is ready, I would like to nominate this excellent article on your behalf. Trusilver 02:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
It's nice to hear your encouragement. I admit a FA is our goal, but I do not feel the article is ready. It has too many lists, which we will turn into prose. We are working on this. Also one of the criteria is that the article must not be evolving too much, which is definitely not the case. Our plan is to turn the article into the summary style once we have sub articles written. Finally to make it comprehensive we have to include a few other topics such as the geology, climate and more about the local people's views on the mountain etc. We've done a lot of reading on these topics but still have to write it up and find or create good images for illustrations.
When we are closer to being ready I can let you know; you can nominate Mount Kenya then if you still want to. I feel this will be at the end of the summer at the very earliest. Thank you again suggesting the nomination, and keep checking back! Also if you have any suggestions on what we can improve please say. :-) Mehmet Karatay 09:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Absolutely, when you feel that you are ready, I will be more than happy to write the nomination. Trusilver 16:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I read the entire article again last night to see how you are progressing. Although I was concerned about its length, the two of you seem to already have that thought out and under control. Overall, it is one of the most, if not the most enrapturing article I have ever read. You are doing a great job, I'm just wondering how you are going to outdo this article when you start on your next project ;) Trusilver 20:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. We have recently been distracted from working on this article as we have been putting some of the quotes we have found onto Wikiquotes. Hope you enjoy them. Mehmet Karatay 20:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Burba

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Mehmet: I think this is getting overdue :-) —GRM 15:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Suddenly two awards came along at once... :-) On another note, I added myself to the Steenbok contributors box as you suggested. Mehmet Karatay 20:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bird collaboration of the month

As a member of WP:BIRD you are invited to this month's collaboration

The current WikiProject Birds collaboration article is White Wagtail.
Last month's winner was: Cockatiel.
Feel free to cast your vote for next month's article

Shyamal 02:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

I know others have done this, but I just wanted to stop by to congratulate you on your work on Mount Kenya. It is obvious from the history that your work on this article is significant, and the article itself is very comprehensive. aliasd·U·T 03:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! It's nice to get to get encouragement. We seem to have lost our momentum on it a bit recently so the encouragement is all the more welcome. There are lots of things we have researched which we haven't written up yet. The most significant being the geological history. Our current goal is to change the article to summary style, but we want each sub-article to be well structured with interesting information before we put everything across to the main article space. Mehmet Karatay (talk) 11:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Library visits

Dear Mehmet: Are you still visiting your local scholarly library? If so, any chance you could source a complete article for me? :-) Thanks, GRM (talk) 16:41, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello, nice to hear from you again. Gemma and I got out of the habit of contributing for a while, but we're back now. I'm doing a phd so I tend to use the library often. Just e-mail me what you'd like me to look up. Don't worry about limiting it to a few items, I'll work through any list as I get the time. Mehmet Karatay (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Mehmet. Will do.—GRM (talk) 17:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Monopoly

Hi Mehmet,
Thanks for your comment - I had already posted it to wiki, dunno who removed it. Image:Monopoly board on white bg.jpg. Regards, --Fir0002 12:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Mount Kenya

Hi,
I'm a wikipedian from France and I translated the article on Mount Kenya from english to french (you can see fr:Mont Kenya), completed by a large part of your work in your personal user space. I'm working in a team for a playful competition and I'm wondering if you own a map about the vegetation levels, maybe from the book Facing Kirinyaga, that you could scan and send to me by mail. Obviously, if we were able to draw by ourself such a map, we would share it with you so you can improve your work.
I'm waiting for your reply. Anyway, I wanted to congratulate you for your work; very impressive.
Best regards. Gemini1980 (talk) 22:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Emotional regurgitation

"Emotional regurgitation" is a phrase that I learned a while back, I am uncertain now from where; I could guess but I am not going to. It is exactly what it says, spewing of emotional build up. I did this twice today (edited as much as possible) and I am sorry. The being sorry about this is the reason I am leaving this note here. The 'real life' that goes on while I have been trying to sort through the very interesting stuff about those plants that are on that mountain has had a logic which seems cruel and useless -- an example, I did not get the mail from a mailbox everyday as I agreed to last month. When speaking via phone to a relative who should be in no position to pass judgement against or make decisions for me or my brother (my biological brother) seemed to have decided that his mail be returned to the sender. And, that phone connection was reported to be filled with static (and it was) perhaps a reflection of an image that I uploaded recently commons:Commons:Quality_images_candidates/Archives_April_2008#Noise.gif as an editorial for a review system I had been watching for about three quarters of a year.

This is an apology and also you probably did not deserve this.

In the meanwhile, the question that I have for you is this. I do not understand the two users with the same wiki user page here; I also did not understand the fact that so many of the images uploaded by you did not have very expansive articles about them for the fact that there are two users here. Can you enlighten me about this situation? -- carol (talk) 20:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The two user thing is that most of the time we work together. This doesn't mean we do twice as much work. It mean the work we do has input from both of us. This is usually because we talk about what we are doing as we do it and make loads of changes to each other's work in a very dynamic way. The way we affect each other's work is too dynamic to have separate accounts; we'd simply have two accounts that we both contributed to. I hope this makes some sense...
Well the simple explanation to your question about photos without articles is time: there isn't enough of it. We have quite full lives outside of Wikipedia. The reason we've uploaded a lot of the photos we have is 1. because we have them and others may as well make use of them 2. we both enjoy taking photos, and again usually work together giving advice about composition, processing etc as we go along so it really is both of our work 3. to help make the Mount Kenya article better.
When there have been topics that we want to link to from the Mount Kenya article that haven't existed we've created stubs and supplied photos if we have them. We simply don't have the time to research a new topic in detail so our hope is that once we've created the stub that other's will carry on expanding them. That's the great thing about wikis. In fact there is loads of research that we've done for Mount Kenya that we haven't had the time to write yet, for example the geology. When we have time to work on Wikipedia we'll probably spend that doing that writing instead of expanding the stubs. I hope this answers your question.
If I'm honest I can't see what you're apologising for. On another note, I do like your Dendrosenecio article. Well done. I also like your non-aggressive stance, I wish more people around here had that although I know that a lot do. That's life for you.
Mehmet Karatay (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, and there were a lot of words here that take time to read. I heard a funny thing on television recently, it was a fake author of science fiction books, he said something like "I have written more books than I have read." If you count stubs, this may or may not be the case for me and wikipedia articles and that is a rude situation in my own opinion about myself. The "sorry" was appropriate.
It did have the feel of a take-over though. As if there had been a user from Kenya who either lost the internet access or the enthusiasm. People here with ops do not seem to always have ethics that are equal to the requirements they impose. Another 'feeling' it gave me was that a girl had taken an expensive vacation and was using a falsified wikipedia account to 'justify' it and perhaps pay for it. I have had too many years of trying to guess what is wrong with everything....
In the 45 years that I have been alive, I have had several if not all of my good working partnerships interrupted (sometimes with interference from other individuals in my life who should not have done this and sometimes weird life conditions like hiring and firing); it has become a goal to not interrupt other working relationships. I will say that I understand this one of yours as much as I need to. Is there a way to know when one or the other is doing the typing here? A life without enough time to do things is better than existing still after your life was been stolen; I am a little jealous and glad for the interesting stubs and the photographs. -- carol (talk) 23:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to the Edinburgh Wikimeet

Hi there,

A few of us are planning a wikimeet in Edinburgh and would love to invite you along :-)
Currently, the meetup is planned for Saturday, 7th June starting at around 1pm.
We have a planning and suggestions page located here as well as a space to sign up as an attendee/possible atendee.

Hope to see you there, Astral (talk) 01:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Distribution maps

Thanks for the feedback—GRM (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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