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I believe this page should be merged with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Mehmet_Oz --Dandija 02:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

You placed the same header on that page. The articles should either be merged with one or the other.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 05:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Article Dr. Mehmet Oz is merged with this one now.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cruelty

I had to add a part on cruelty because mainly on http://www.columbiacruelty.com/letters/USDA1104.pdf Dr. Oz is mentioned by name.More http://www.peta.org/Living/AT-spring2005/AT-Spring%202005_4-5.pdf; http://www.stopanimaltests.com/f-worstlabs_10.asp; more http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=mehmet+oz+columbia+experiments&fr=yfp-t-501&SpellState=n-1737714703_q-%2F2kkxarGK%2FnjpldRB8spkgAAAA%40%40&u=www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/10/emw298400.htm&w=mehmet+oz+columbia+experiments+experiment&d=Y-FWhfH_Qi-N&icp=1&.intl=us

Dr Oz labs need to be investigated —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.11.173.137 (talk) 02:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Mehmet Oz merge to Mehmet Öz

I have tagged the article I created called Dr. Mehmet Oz with a merge proposal. Though Mehmet Öz contains much of the information in my duplicate article there are small tidbits that I think can add on to this article. If I could please request that the Mehmet Öz editors share their opinions on the Talk:Dr. Mehmet Oz page. Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 01:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Since the "five days of silence" have passed I'm going to start merging information from the duplicate article.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia's policies state that ethnicity is not supposed to go in the introduction of the article. He was born in America, is an American citizen, and is currently living in America, therefore He is AMERICAN.

Considering the Wikipedia nature (as an encyclopedia) even he is an American, his original surname is a Turkish surname as a result it should be altered to the genuine form; ÖZ in order to keep original form represented. (additionally OZ does not represent any meaning contrary to the original name ÖZ). (cantikadam (talk) 15:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)).

[edit] Misspelling of name

I have reverted the undiscussed, unreferenced use of a fictional spelling contrary to that used in every single source and link on this page, as far as I can see. The proper name of the article is clearly Mehmet Oz. There is not, at the present time, even a tiniest shred of evidence that I can see that would even justify an inclusion of any alternative spelling in the article. If someone has some reliable sources for that, the variant spelling could probably be added. Gene Nygaard 03:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

We don't know if he owns a Turkish pasaport or so. The orginality of the surname should be kept as "ÖZ". (cantikadam (talk) 07:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)).

[edit] Reverted move back to Mehmet Oz

I reverted the move since his name is widely used without the diacritics - since he's an American, I wouldn't expect them to be used at all. Please discuss on talk page before any future moves. Thanks. --Chris S. 00:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing his Nationality

I have again changed the intro to reflect Oz's proper nationality. According to all info cited in the article he is an American. That is, he was born in America. He was educated in America. He lives in America. He should be identified as such in the intro. Now, don't get me wrong. If someone has sources that show his ancestry is Turkish, then, by all means, put that in the body of the article, where it would belong, and cite it. But, PLEASE, stop mis-identifying him as Turkish in the first sentence of the article. It is confusing, incorrect and not sourced. Let's remember this is an encyclopedia, screwing up someone's nationality in the intro paragraph is sort of a big deal... Cheers, Levi P. 06:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph. Even if there is a source saying he is of Turkish ancestry, it probably shouldn't be mentioned in the lead. PrimeHunter 14:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I have looked it up on several resources where it is said that his parents are from Turkey.One of the sites I have found is www.theturkishtimes.com, and I will cite the phrase where they say his parents are Turkish: "Dr. Mehmet Oz is perhaps the most accomplished and respected cardiothoracic surgeon in the United States. Born in the US to Turkish parents, he works at Columbia University New York Presbyterian Hospital in New York City". The direct link to the article is http://www.theturkishtimes.com/archive/03/0503/f-oz.html. I hope I have informed you well enough so that the change done by you is unjust. A. Yahudi.
You seem to be confusing Oz's nationality with his ancestry, A. Yahudi. PrimeHunter has been kind enough to locate and link to the controlling WP guideline both above and beneath your statement. Cheers, Levi P. 23:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I guess you didn't read the link I gave to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph, so let me quote it:
"The opening paragraph should give:
...
Nationality (In the normal case this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable. Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.)"
PrimeHunter 16:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, PrimeHunter. I looked for the controlling guideline but couldn't find it. Now that it has been located there should be no more confusion ( I also reformatted our comments so they could be more easily read). Levi P. 23:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Is he muslim?

If its true shouldn't this be added to his biography? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.71.32.84 (talk) 11:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes he is a muslim. I guess we should just add a little thing that says "religous stance: Muslim" NamesR4chumps (talk) 21:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried to add it but it doesn't seem to be showing up, does anyone have any idea why?NamesR4chumps (talk) 21:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] link review

  1. deleted: *Mehmet Oz fan site - nothing on this page
  2. deleted: *Dr. Oz features on the Oprah television program- search results page
  3. deleted: *RealAge.com.tr Turkish Web Site presents Oz and RealAge Inc - commercial linkspam
  4. deleted: *RealAge.com The YOU Doctors Center- defaults to book ad

Bob98133 (talk) 15:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possible BLP and V issues re: animal cruelty section

I removed the section on animal cruelty. First I note that Mehmetoz has been trying to remove it today, but keeps getting reverted. I warned the user about the possible COI issue on the user's talk page, but then I looked at the section meself. The information was sourced to what appears to be an advocacy site (www.columbiacruelty.com) which I think was hosted by PETA. Anyway, none of the documents mentioned Dr. Oz anywhere in them, so I question their applicability. There is no indication from the sourcing that Dr. Oz was responsible for any mistreatment that may have occurred. The only mention I could find in the sourcing a mention on the website that purported to summarize the animal mistreatment, and seemed to list the owner of the dogs (not the vet treating them) as "Oz." Xymmax (talk) 15:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem on this being removed. I looked over references and even though they are posted to an advocacy site, they appear to be reproductions of USDA documents, but you're correct in that they do not mention Oz by name. If I happen to find a better reference, I'll post to this talk page prior to posting to the article. I do believe that the information is accurate, but without a reliable source, it shouldn't be posted. Bob98133 (talk) 15:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. If properly sourced I agree that it would merit a mention of appropriate weight. Xymmax (talk) 15:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

I think Dr. Oz is deserving of a == Criticism == section. Is Dr. Oz allowed any criticism? He definately said on XM Radio this morning that he felt there is merit to homeopathy. His interviews of authors of books on homeopathy and a book on diets based on blood type indicate no skepticism Dr. Oz's part. I would like to cite quotes from his show but don't have time to go through that. A Dr. of Oz's stature has a duty to the public to reveal the truth about medicine and quackery. I respect his knowledge and believe he generally gives good advice on Oprah's programming but I have a hard time listening to him sucking up to authors such as these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.2.115.242 (talk) 23:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about a separate section of criticism, just because of the Wiki BLP requirements. The fact that he did not challenge an author with a dubious theory is pretty minor stuff. His invasive lab experiments at Columbia could be mentioned, but again, they have to be carefully documented. Oz, or someone associated with him, has been keeping this article as fluffy as possible. If you find referenced criticism of his work, add it to the article and we'll see.Bob98133 (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)