Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-11-17 Werner Erhard

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Article: Werner Erhard
State: Closed

Requested By: Arcana imperii Ascendo tuum (talk) 06:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Other Parties: User:Swatjester
Mediated By: SebastianHelm, Daniel
Comments: failed: none of the parties willing to cooperate



Contents

[edit] Request details

[edit] Who are the involved parties?

[edit] Mediators

[edit] What's going on?

The biography of Werner Erhard written by Stephen Pressman is being deemed as a "novel" and "unsourced," and by that rationale, editors Ftord1960 and Saladdays are editing material in Werner Erhard (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) under that assumption and ignoring the discussion process of the article and discussion of edits to the article.

[edit] What would you like to change about that?

Acknowledge the Pressman biography as such (classified by the Library of Congress as a biography), and remove edits based on the assumption that it is an unsourced novel. This way we can go back to discussing and editing the article as a team.

[edit] Mediator notes

This case is tricky because we can't see the OTRS ticket, but we have to work around it in some way. I therefore asked for assistance from an OTRS volunteer, and Daniel agreed to work with me on this. However, as of now, I have not seen the case yet.

I sent e-mail to requestor to explain the situation. This case will probably not be moving fast; I appreciate everybody's patience. — Sebastian 03:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Swatjester has made it clear to me that I will not be able to see the ticket. He also said he "briefed" David on the situation, but David reassured me that he did not see the ticket either. I am currently looking for the best way to deal with this situation and am open for suggestions. — Sebastian 18:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

It appears neither side is willing to cooperate. I am therefore proposing to close this case, if my co-mediator agrees. — Sebastian 17:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I am closing the case now. I just realize that it would have been clearer if I had replaced the parties Arcana put in the field with User:Swatjester, and I just did this now somewhat belatedly. — Sebastian 01:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Administrative notes

Note there is an ongoing OTRS legal complaint re: Werner Erhard, at ticket #2007051510011812 (as well as others). SWATJester Son of the Defender 17:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)