Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-22 Tanoli

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Wikipedia Mediation Cabal
Article: Janjua
State: Closed

Requested By: Raja
Other Parties: Raja
Mediated By: Squadnleedah
Comments: Investigating


Contents

[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-12-22 Tanoli

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--Raja 01:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)=== Request Information===

Request made by:--Raja 01:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Where is the issue taking place?
... on The Janjua discussion page.
Who's involved?
...Pakhtun Tanoli and a variety of sock puppets, currently banned for personal attacks.
What's going on?
...This user is not accepted referenced and sourced material regarding the Tanoli clan and is instead engaged in a revert war on the Janjua page with complete deletions of the sourced and citation referenced material. Offers for discussion and debate have been ignored. This has now escalated into personal attacks with racial, faith hate messages (through a host of sock puppets) whenever his points are countered with evidence to the contrary.
What would you like to change about that?
...I have tried talking to him, debating etc but he seems incapable of this, but vehemently denies any evidence as reliable. I'd like a 3rd party opinion/advice on the discussion page to clarify the right way forward.
Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
...Discreetly, by email. However this user is not registering, so this may not work...but mainly the advice side of things on the talk page of Janjua would be best.

[edit] Mediator response

Hiya Raja, sorry it took so long for someone to get back to you, unfortunately, we would be unable to help here as we cannot enforce WP policies, we can only help willing parties try to come to even ground. As you state, Tanoli is unwilling to discuss these matters, therefore there would be nothing here we could do to change that. Secondly, Tanoli does appear to have either been banned, or never been a registered user, and therefore we cant help there either. Anyhow, it looks like that issue has been dealt with by higher powers and this case can be closed. I will mention, that i did have a look at both the Tanoli and Janjua pages, and i believe as an outsider, both of those articles do look terribly POV, but that is outside the scope of this page, and as i dont really have an interest in joining in editing those articles, ill let someone else worry about it.
Have fun continuing your editing, and next time you have an issue like this, it might be best to request official mediation. We can only help here when both sides of the debate are willing to come to a compromise offered by a third party.
Regards, Squad'nLeedah 20:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Compromise offers

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[edit] Discussion

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