Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-01 Eton College
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[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-06-01 Eton College
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[edit] Request Information
- Request made by: Raoul2 16:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Where is the issue taking place?
- At Eton College, in the opening paragraph. See also discussion at Talk:Eton College#Fame.
- Who's involved?
- To varying degrees, me, 207.172.223.214 (currently blocked), Huon, Bishonen, Sulla16, |Yanksta_X.
- What's going on?
- Basically, there is a dispute between two alternative wordings of the first paragraph of the article:
1)The King's College of Our Lady of Eton beside Windsor, commonly known as Eton College or just Eton, is a prestigious and internationally known independent school for boys, which is often described as the most famous school in the world. [1]
2)The King's College of Our Lady of Eton beside Windsor, commonly known as Eton College or just Eton, is a prestigious and internationally known independent school for boys. Eton is often mentioned alongside Harrow School and Winchester College as one of Britain's three most famous public schools. It is considered by some to be the most famous school in the world.
Version 1, without the citation, was the original version until recently, when 207.172.223.214 inserted the second sentence in version 2, later adding the third sentence. I initiated a discussion on the talk page about this, and until very recently no-one at all had argued against my view supporting version 1 there. At the moment the page is changing several times a day.
- What would you like to change about that?
- I would like the people who continue to revert without engaging with the talk page to be prevented from doing so. Those who favour version 2 have yet to back up their argument with facts, so I do not think it fair that they continue to impose their wording on the page.
- If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
- Via my talk page is fine.
- Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?
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- This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
- what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.
- I think I'm too new to wikipedia for this at the moment.
[edit] Mediator response
Discussion has taken place on Talk:Eton College. It seems a cut-and-dry case, where a maximum of two users have been continually reinserting the same claim, unsourced, with the consensus of the rest of the group against them.
I have conducted a straw poll to get clarity on people's opinions, and am just waiting for user 207.172.223.214 (currently on a 24-hour block) to weigh in. David L Rattigan 10:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- There appeared to be a problem with just one user submitting a disputed piece of information without appropriate sources; the regular editors seem to be doing fine now without my help, and there has been no problem in the past week or so. I am closing the case. David L Rattigan 15:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Evidence
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User 207.172.223.214 blocked for 24 hours under the 3 revert rule. David L Rattigan 10:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Compromise offers
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[edit] Comments by others
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