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[edit] The word "Guliverkli"

"Guliverkli" is from the Hungarian children's novel Mézga Aladár Különös Kalandjai (The Strange Adventures of Aladár Mézga). It is the mixture of Gulliver and Verkli (organ), and was the name of a series of spaceships built by Aladár that could be stored in a violin case and inflated with a special gas from a soda (fizzy water, refillable) bottle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.202.77 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 1 December 2005

That's interesting. I loved that series when I was a child. Is it ok, when this anecdote about his nick gets mentioned in the article? Since Guliverkli redirects to Media Player Classic, it's probably better to make a disambigous page for Guliverklir instead... isn't it? --87.122.0.210 04:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I just found out that the space ship may really be spelled "Gulliverkli". --87.122.0.210 04:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Aah, thank you guys, I looked for this series for years! --Abdull 20:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MPC codec installation questions

Can someone who know explain (in the article) whether Real & Quicktime need to be installed on the PC for MPC to play their files? I'm presuming so, but it's not entirelyu clear in the QuickTime and RealPlayer architectures section. --Crid 03:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I am rebuilding my computer, and looking for a way NOT to install Quicktime, Realtime and other add heavy applications. Maybe I'm being selfish, but I'd be much more interested in that kind of architecture detail than some of the more esoteric facts.
Look for Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative. All the filling, none of the fat.

[edit] MPEG-2 decoder

Media Player Classic has built-in codecs for MPEG-2 video [...]

Are these codec built from scratch solely for this project or does Media Player Classic use a independent library? --Abdull 21:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

libmpeg2 is used for MPEG-2 decoding. Same goes for the other builtin video/audio decoders. However, the splitters (demuxers) are (mostly?) made by Gabest himself, so I guess you could say they are made for MPC. (You can download standalone versions from the guliverkli project page too though. They can be used in other media players that use DirectShow.)

[edit] Removed image(s)

Certian images have been removed by me because they have been added to a category that makes them speediable, most likely Category:Images with no copyright tag. Kilo-Lima|(talk) 17:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese Picture

Could anyone please upload an English GUI picture of MPC! what's the point of putting a japanese or chinese -i don't know- pic? -Hasan-

I uploaded an English version of the picture. Hasan.Z 12:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English Image

Here's one... http://xs208.xs.to/xs208/06421/MplayC.png Though the buttons are my own doing, the only difference between the japanese/chinese and english is the text.

[edit] Defamation?

What is up with the conspicuous Warning in the middle of the page?

Is it legitimate in any way? I'm a little shocked that it's on there-- having used MPC for years w/out any problems. It sounds like the pouting of an inexperienced user, lashing out about something s/he found to be less than they expected. I can't imagine that Media Player Classic could possibly do the damage that this user claims.

To leave the "warning" in place seems very unfair to the developer, but this is the first i've come upon something like this, and unsure of the proper action. I'll look for "report bad entry" links.

Jsabarese 01:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sydney Morning Herald

It gives a link to this article (Icon). - 61.9.203.206 12:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Status of the project

Apparently, development on the project has stalled for some years due to the developer dying in a car crash. Perhaps someone who reads this should post a news story to digg or slashdot so forks would happen to fix the bugs that have piled up.

Since gabest has made forum posts at sourceforge as recently as last month, this information seems to be false. Ham Pastrami 01:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The people on efnet's #guliverkli can verify that the project is dead due to the aforementioned reason. 88.193.0.40 16:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
There are a few things you should consider. Gabest has stated previously (at sourceforge and elsewhere) that development has slowed down because of his job. The number one rule of the efnet channel is not to ask about development schedule and release dates -- given the context of your suggestion, it seems that you did so. As a result, I suspect chances are good that you have been the victim of a joke by the devs in that channel. The last preview of MPC was released in March of this year, and as I stated previously, gabest posted in the forums last month, so the idea that he has been dead for a period of years is going to require much more convincing than what some anonymous person said on IRC. Thus, the claims that gabest passed away, and that this is the reason for the slowdown, are both highly questionable since the only solid evidence that exists is against them. If you have a reliable source for this info, please share, otherwise you might just be gullible. Ham Pastrami 05:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Rev.611 was released back in May, 2006. I don't know what the 611-3 is, since the latest SVN commit 15 months ago was Rev.611. Bugs are leave unfixed. There're unofficial builds being maintained at Doom9 forum, one is patching build which fix some bugs, update libraries and other one is a fork, mainly to improve the renderer, having full Vista supports using EVR and such.
Gabest said himself back in March that the project is not dead but considering these factors; the project should be note as no longer maintain. As you stated in the history, MPC-HC may not notable enough for external link, but as the main project has cease development it should be worthful to mention, just like ffdshow-tryout case in ffdshow's article. - 29dupe 23:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Statements in the "Forks" section claiming development has resumed are false. All recent SVN updates are for a Graphics Synthesizer plugin for the PCSX2 PlayStation 2 emlator that Gabest has developed. Not Media Player Classic. Generalleoff 23:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

As of Dec 18th 2007 the SVN has been updated. It seems to be back ports of guliverkli2 changes to me. Current SVN rev. is 701 up from 611 but a new official build has not yet been posted. On a side note lets not confuse the point of the guliverkli2 project. It was only meant to be a temporary holdover not a permanent fork. MPC is still 6.4.9.0 (unless 701 changes this) not 6.4.9.1 and guliverkli2 is unlikely to update much (if at all) after guliverkli fully resumes. MPC:HC is a true fork. I'm not going to update the changes myself as I find the article to be pretty sloppy and confusing at the moment and I lack the writing/spelling/grammar skills to fix it. Generalleoff (talk) 01:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the article is pretty sloppy and confusing. Judging from within this talk page I think your writing skill is much better than me though. Anyway, I think I'm going to rewrite some part of the article. I think I'll have to split this into another talk section. --29dupe (talk) 02:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Use of hardware acceleration

Finaly the quasi duopolists started to build in some usefull features to their GPUs. nVidia's PureVideo and ATI's Avivo/UVD are, so tha you do not need any software decoder and a 3GHz CPU to watch a 1080p movie on your PC. This technology is in so far shit, as - if I got that right - it only works in Vista! The Windows XP drivers do not support the feature 100%. Neither do the Linux drivers. As you can see in this Test -> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce6600gt-theory_6.html the difference should not be that big, because the older implementation on the GeForce 6600 ist already that efficient, that a full HD Video generates a max CPU-Load of 34% on a Pentium 4 560 CPU (Socket 775, 3.60GHz, 1MB L2 cache). I do not know which Player they used in the test, I think WMPx. Question: Does MPC use a GPU-built-in hardware mpeg2/h.264 Decoder or not? Is there a easy way to make future versions of MPC do that?

[edit] Article cleanup

User:Generalleoff suggest this article is pretty confusing, so I think this article need to be rewrite a little. Maybe using Windows Media Player or even MPlayer as a base? My suggestion is remove some part to create a Development (or History, whatever you call it) section, merge several sections of Features into one Supported media formats, rename GPL violation to Controversy (just like XviD#Sigma Designs controversy) and rewrite it a bit to properly refers The KMPlayer. Any more ideas?--29dupe (talk) 02:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me except for the Controversy part -- this implies that the controversy is about MPC itself, when in fact it is about the infringing derivatives. I think what you could do instead is simply move that information into Forks, and mention those players as being infringing upon the GPL. The scope of the issue is so limited I don't think it warrants its own section. Ham Pastrami (talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I started rewriting the article. I posted a small bit of my rewrite but it was removed for being inconsistent with the rest. But thats only cuz I haven't finished rewriting it yet :). It also has to be checked for punctuation witch I definitely suck at. I posted it early to get the ball rolling on the article cleanup. I started with the MPEG-1 2 4 playback section because I find that section to be written in a confusing and somewhat misleading way. It seems to imply MPC can playback MPEG-4 video without third party software and it can't. It seems to jump around subject wise and is also inconsistent in formating. "On October 30, 2005 Gabest added *.mp4 and MPEG-4 Timed Text support." and "An AAC decoding filter has been present in MPC for a while" for example. If someone can rewrite it in a better way then I have to give a base for a proper rewrite then please do. Generalleoff (talk) 14:15, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
You can use a sandbox (like here on this talk page, or your own user page) to write a draft, then merge the changes in when it's actually done (other editors can help with copyediting). If you want to do it piecemeal, you should limit the discussion to MPEG, otherwise go for a rewrite of the entire section. Ham Pastrami (talk) 06:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

how to enlarge the subtitle ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.148.112.135 (talk) 16:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] new version

A new version is available on sourceforge from january 20 2008. It is a fork that adressed the security vulnerabilities--67.49.195.121 (talk) 04:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

But the infobox is about the original MPC by Gabest, adding fork version would led to confusion. Better way is to remove version from the infobox and mention it (6.4.9.1) in Fork section instead. Just like ffdshow article. —29th ((☎)) 10:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)