Portal talk:Medicine

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Welcome to the Medicine Portal!
On this page you can discuss everything related to the medicine portal. Discussions about medical topics in Wikipedia are welcome at the doctor's mess, hosted at Wikiproject Medicine.
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NCurse work & Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply)


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[edit] Improvement drive

A related article, Obesity, is currently nominated to be improved on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. Please vote for this article there.--Fenice 08:38, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main page redesign

There is discussion going on now regarding the Main page redesign and linking portals (more prominently) from the main page to allow users to more easily browse Wikipedia. The discussion specifically concerns Portal:Health and Portal:Medicine. I want to bring these concerns to your attention, as editors interested/experts in Medicine (and probably health too). -Aude (talk | contribs) 02:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Please comment at either Wikipedia talk:Portal and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability/Main Page/Draft.

[edit] portal:Health

I think the portal:Health could use some major work. See my comments on the discussion page there, and if you would like to help out please do.--Chinawhitecotton 08:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Scientific peer review

A scientific peer review has been started and we're looking for Wikipedians who are members of the scientific academic community to run for the board. If you want to give it a shot come over and post a little about yourself. New nominations are being accepted until the 00:00 on the 17th March.

The project aims to combine existing peer review mechanisms (Wikipedia peer review, featured article candidate discussion, article assessment, &c.) which focus on compliance to manual of style and referencing policy with a more conventional peer review by members of the scientific academic community. It is hoped that this will raise science-based articles to their highest possible standards. Article quality and factual validity is now Wikipedia's most important goal. Having as many errors as Britannica is not good–we must raise our standards above this. --Oldak Quill 18:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Section headings

With the Misc:Auto-number headings preference checked, the section headings are displaying a number before the heading. This is different than the other portals which are not using auto-generated heading— it would be better if the numbers weren't displayed. (I don't have time to look at this right now...) —Doug Bell talkcontrib 12:32, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latin terminology

Latin terminology in Anatomy, Histology, Physiology would be a great addition

[edit] Chronic granulomatous disease

Somebody should add the first successful gene therapy [1] (pdf) --De.Gerbil 10:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the link. NCurse 06:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

As far as I can see, not too many editor work on this portal. If you don't mind, I've made some changes, and I plan to continue this work. If somebody doesn't agree with that, just write to me. Thanks. NCurse 05:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

You are doing a great job! --WS 23:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's looking fantastic! InvictaHOG 00:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. In some days I'll be totally ready. :) NCurse work 05:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liposculpture

Liposculpture is a refinement of Liposuction and implies a more artistic approach to sculpturing, typically involving the removal of more fat, more agressively, more superficially and yet with a smoother result having fewer dents and dimples and less asymmetry.

[edit] Selected article nominations procedure

I've created:

  • Category:Medicine portal
  • Category:Medicine portal selected content
  • and template : {{MedportalSAC}} which is added to the nominated article's talk page and shows that this article is a current selected article candidate on Medicine portal.

NCurse work 17:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations on featured portal!

Great work! InvictaHOG 10:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

congrats! nice job! :) – Alensha  17:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Also in the name of Stevenfruitsmaak. :) We worked together on that. NCurse work 17:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ophthalmology missing from the portal

The Medicine portal does not include eyes or feature Ophthalmology as a speciality! That is indeed strange considering that Ophthalmology encompasses a tremendous amount of medicine, besides surgical procedures. Eye complaints and their management is a very common medically managed issue. Being an eye specialist, I feel that it deserves inclusion in the portal and envisage a much wider role for portal as a whole for physicians and surgeons. Excluding other surgical specialities also is, IMO, not desirable. Could someone kindly take steps to ensure such an inclusion. EyeMD 14:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Done, answered on talk page... NCurse Image:Edu science.png work 16:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Category:Medical specialties already appears on the portal. Category:Ophthalmology is already listed as a subcategory of Category:Medical specialties. AED 17:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
So then? Decide and I take the step needed. I think AED is right. NCurse Image:Edu science.png work 12:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I thought so too, so I removed it again. We hold no grudge against ophtalmo, but mentioning all specialities would make the categories box pretty useless.--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 13:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Evidence basis of medicines and procedures

Hi all,

I'm a fairly new user with a big plan. As a practicing Pharmacist and trained research biochemist I'm aiming to add references to the evidence base of pharmaceutical products and medical procedures to each relevant article. I find it quite difficult to find a comprehensive library of articles relevant to the topic for which I am searching and feel that this is the best way to achieve that end. Further to this it would create an excellent research tool for students; each article essentially being a self-contained portal. So, what's everyone's opinion on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drues (talkcontribs)

Great! It would be an important job, because references are the keypoints nowadays. Look, I think you could work nearly all kind of diseases related articles. If I can give you an advice, please work first on Most important genetic disorders. I help wherever you need. Good work! :) NCurse Image:Edu science.png work 08:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Great idea! Hmm Ncurse trying to win a soul for your WikiProject :-D ? Anyway, look at the Portal page and you'll find many places to begin your project; maybe you'd like to join WikiProject Clinical medicine, sounds like something for you no?--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 12:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Boxes moved

I moved some of the boxes to avoid white space between them, although the order seems maybe less logical now. Ideas are welcome.--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 12:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

My problem is to show regularly changing boxes above the topics box. What if we move quotes (which I update regularly) below the DYK box and make images in selected images larger because now they're so small, it is even hard to read them. Then these boxes would be in the same level. Below topics box, categoris should be on the right side. I think it'd be the best solution. What do you think? NCurse Image:Edu science.png work 16:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that would indeed be a better solution! I'll have a go at it, unless you want to spend your wikibreak on it :-) --Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 10:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Done. :)) NCurse Image:Edu science.png work 10:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

As another BOLD move, I've expanded the categories box, because there was only white space next to it that can be avoided this way. Comments are welcome.--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 19:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Good move. :) NCurse Image:Edu science.png work 19:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orthodontics

Dear colleges!

Would please have an eye on this article. Compare the diskussion in the german version de:Kieferothopädie. The user de:Benutzer:Dr. Georg Risse is owner of a company wich is propagating non standard therapeutic procedures. His contributions in the german wikipedia are biased and it was necessary to revert the article de:Kieferothopädie several times.

Greetings -- Andreas Werle 15:50, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cancer

Dichloroacetate is a breaking news story, which could be an effective treatment for cancer. It has been removed as speculative... and while human trials have not commenced; it has already been used for years to treat other disorders. I am re-adding it to cancer, and would request guidance/help in writing a NPOV section. Thank you. - RoyBoy 800 01:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually I shortened the section considerably has the pertinent details are already in dichloroacetate. - RoyBoy 800 02:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Things you can do

When and how is this updated? Antibiotic is thoroughly wikified, and abdominal examination is not a stub! --- DrGaellon 18:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

You can find an edit link on the rigth-upper side of the box. I refreshed it now, thanks for the suggestions. NCurse work 18:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disagree with FASD as selected article

For the reasons laid out on the talk page at Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, I disagree with featuring as a selected article on the portal an article that is not even named correctly, and still has WP:MEDMOS and WP:MOS issues to be worked out. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I made a change to International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. I'm the only maintainer of the portal and it was a mistake. I'm sorry. NCurse work 18:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template

I would quite like to add Noncompaction Cardiomyopathy to the template Circulatory system pathology in the Myocardium section and in the Health Science – Medicine - Surgery - Cardiac surgery in the Heart Transplant section.

Other types of specific cardiomyopathies are listed in these sections as well. Is there a partiuclar area where i can check with people if they are happy with this addition.

Thanks Philbentley 08:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

"Noncompaction Cardiomyopathy" is not a term recognized by ICD-9, ICD-10, MeSH, Diseases Database, or eMedicine, so I don't think it is a standard enough term to be on the template. --Arcadian 10:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, you can though find a fair number of articles on it at:

I think the reason why it doesn't pop up on those lists that you mentioned is they are somewhat out of date and this was still a new form when they were beign formulated, I see the WHO list came out in 1995 and NCC was only discovered as such in 1990.

The American Heart Association (AHA) article presents the problem quite nicely:

The last formal effort at developing a consensus for a classification of cardiomyopathies was 11 years ago (1995) in the form of a very brief document under the auspices of the World Health Organization (WHO).1 However, with the identification of several new disease entities over the past decade, dramatic advances in diagnosis, and precise knowledge of causation, some disease definitions have become outdated and render the WHO classification obsolete in many respects.

The WHO list only had 3 (later 4) cardiomyopathies while the AHA have 10 cardiomyopathies plus various sub types and secondary causes for cardiomyopathies.

I jsut feel the lsit isn't beign as inclusive as it should be.

Cheers Philbentley 12:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding portals to bio's

I was interested in adding two noted Doctors (Michael E. DeBakey and James "Red" Duke to the portal, which I would hope would help their articles, but I can't find out which portals to put them in. can someone enlighten me?--Hourick 00:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I included DeBakey, but did not the other article as it seems to be too short. Thank you for the note! NCurse work 09:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] physicians

under this category there are.

  • Anatomists
  • Immunologists
  • Medical education
  • Neuroscientists
  • Pathologists
  • Physiologists
  • Radiobiologists
  • Vesalius
  • Michael E. DeBakey

There are an individual doctors (Dr. Debakey), there is a speciality (pathologist), there are people who are not necessarily physicians (anatomists, nuroscientists)

It is confusingExpo512 (talk) 10:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You're right. I made some changes. NCurse work 13:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could someone add Prehistoric Medicine Article to this portal please?

As said in the title really; can some please add the article Prehistoric Medicine to the portal please as I believe that it deserves entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talkcontribs) 18:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. NCurse work 18:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Did it break???

The Selected article and Selected picture seem to broken? If they're like this tomorrow I'll try to fix it... Stepshep (talk) 00:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems like a bad redirect to nowhere?? Stepshep (talk) 00:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
No, the problem is it's very hard to maintain them and to create new selected article/picture templates. I'm struggling, but sometimes I can't do it in time. Now I revert your edit and update both templates. Thank you! NCurse work 17:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal participation

Is there a section to join a group of maintainers?? I'd be glad to help out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepshep (talkcontribs) 22:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Would the Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Participants list help fulfill that role ? David Ruben Talk 11:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I've been the maintainer of this portal for almost 2 years. Please contact me if you would like to help me out. It would be great! NCurse work 12:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] S3 and S4 split/merge

I have proposed a split (or perhaps a merge) of the information for heart sounds S3 and S4. Discussion is at Talk:Heart sounds; please opine there. - Draeco (talk) 05:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Draeco! I believe you should announce it on the talk page of WikiProject Medicine as well. NCurse work 06:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)