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Notice: Relationships of Characters in DF and MQ

This is just a note to ask people to not speculate on whether this character in MechQuest is that character in DragonFable. In other words, please do not put "Might be Cysero" after Sys-zero! None of these are confirmed, and even for the ones we can assume are obvious, it's not really something we need in an article for people who don't play MechQuest. Stuff like this belongs in the Mechquest wiki here, not on Wikipedia. Alinnisawest (talk) 19:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

I rewrote the article, tried to make it more concise to readers that may not know much about AE Games and things like that. Feedback would be appreciated, since I don't edit articles much. Whenever MechQuest is unprotected I hope it will be movable. --Generalsling (talk) 02:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism at an extreme

This page has been undergoing extreme vandalism, stemming from the increased attention to it through Artix Entertainment's web forums. Possibly a temporary restriction on the editing of this page might be necessary so that all editing must be pre-approved. Atlas Titan (talk) 21:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HawkBlade??

concerning the Hawkblade part of the article, I have tried it and have come to a conclusion that it is a lie/joke —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.228.17 (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you a Star Captain? According to what was put in the article, it looks like you'd have to be in order to find out for certain. However, it does look like vandalism to me. Another editor has already removed it. --Eruhildo (talk) 23:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I am a star captain, I had followed proper precautions before releasing information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.228.17 (talk) 00:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The three houses are Wolfblade, Runehawk, and Mystraven. There is no such thing as Hawkblade. Either someone got Wolfblade and Runehawk confused, or it was just vandalism. There are no houses that you have to be a star captain to join. Alinnisawest (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

I have edited the bit about how it is 'before or after AdventureQuest/DragonFable' to just saying it is set before both the previous games. It is confirmed on the MechQuest site that it is set before AdventureQuest and DragonFable incase anyone wants to confirm this (At the very bottom of the page). --Amras Calmacil (talk) 20:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

The first entry in the design notes (May.04.3007 at the very bottom) says: "5,000 years before AdventureQuest* [...]" "* or 4,995 years before DragonFable... erm, actually we do not really have any idea... that was just too funny to NOT say. As MechQuest begins on the world of Lore the year is 3007."

The FAQ says:

Q.) When does MechQuest take place in the timeline of AQ/DF?

No body is really sure.... it is a mystery.

5,000 years BEFORE the town of Battleon was built.

5,000 years AFTER the town of Battleon was built.

Time loops in mysterious hard to explain ways.... or it is possible they do not even exist in the same plane of existence... or.....

The staff is completely insane and this will probably reveal itself in some clever and ironic way during the story of the game. (But it kills me not knowing... why.... why..... *cries*)

I realize that some of this was probably just for humor, but you can't ignore the little data we have on the time period. I'm trying to argue, I'm just saying I don't think we have enough data yet to be able to say for certain that the game is set 5,000 years before AQ. If you're going to change what the article says, at least reference the proper page in the article. --Eruhildo (talk) 19:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

If you play through the "Ruins of Kordana" quest in Dragonfable, you will find that a "reset" occured at sometime during the storyline of MQ. As such, it is possible for the MQ timeline to take place 5,000 years before AND after AQ.

Could you tell where that quest is? I play DragonFable and would like to check it out (plus it's one I've never done before :P). Oh, and it's not a Guardian quest right? --Eruhildo (talk) 03:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe it is the 2nd or 3rd quest in the Pirate line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leviathan207 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it was in the Ninja line. However, I went through a lot of quests a few months ago that I forgot where a quest is located. I saw a computer-generated holographic girl whose costume is from MechQuest in the Ninja line. The quest involved perfect robot versions of animals. I think those were guards. Enterprise-1701e (talk) 22:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's actually in both lines. I found it already, but thanks for your help. I'm still trying to come up with a good way of adding the info to the article without it being OR. --Eruhildo (talk) 19:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe it has been confirmed by Artix or someone that MQ does take place 5000 years before AQ. And for those of you who like talking about the circular time thing where it's both in the future and the past, they have also confirmed that the timeline is NOT circular. I don't have time to check up on this now, but if someone could find a design note or something? 71.10.48.39 (talk) 07:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Where did you get the info that Artix confirmed that MQ takes place 5 millenia before AQ? Enterprise-1701e (talk) 03:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

That thing would tie in with the comedy element. (I take very little that Artix and co. say seriously.) Any one else recognise this quote: "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..."? It's from Star Wars! That's like a big Sci-fi bit of media, isn't it? I am the RockReader... I will answer your problems. 16:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gamma release?

Isn't the Gamma over? I mean, yes there is still releases and the university is not complelete, but isn't it now properly released?--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

No, when you go to play the game it currently says, "Gamma Release 0.97" at the bottom of the page, which means it's still in Gamma release. --Eruhildo (talk) 03:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

But there is now official design notes. Design Notes

--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 21:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

How does having design notes make it no longer a gamma release? When I write software, I try to keep a change log from the very beginning - even long before anyone else uses it. The design notes are online mainly so players can see what's new and when stuff was added. --Eruhildo (talk) 23:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

And to give us something to talk about in the forums!! Yes, the game is still officially under Gamma Release. We are expecting the actual release to be when Soluna City is finished and the star ships are released. 71.10.48.39 (talk) 07:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Besides, there's Design Notes for DragonFable since it was still in Beta Testing. Furthermore, Artix Entertainment releases new updates every week to all three of their games, even though AdventureQuest has been around for five and a half years and DragonFable's been around for one and a half. There will continue to be *major* releases for a looooong time. We still need the other two classes at the university, and the White Castle, and the star ships, and the Knife and Spork, and the clothing store, and the statue at the end of the road that is driving me crazy trying to figure out what it is, and the rest of the Labyrinth, and other towns, and the... *goes off with a long list of things still needed in the game* Anyway, you get the point. An Artix Entertainment game is never done! (unless it's called ArchKnight!!) Alinnisawest (talk) 18:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I think a confirmation has been made by the AE staff that the full release will be when every option you see in MQ is released, I think this was in the Design Notes or Forums. --Fridae'sDoom (talk) 06:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I have the answer!!! *general applause cheers etc* We need to get Artix and co. onto here! That would be good! "The only place to get hints, tips, and info on upcoming games! All this from Artix himselff!" *wanders into mad world of advertising, then realises that this Wikipedia, and stops sudd

enly!* And I've only just got the spork reference! That's funny! I am the RockReader... I will answer all of your problems. 16:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nuclear weapon?

I don't remember seeing a 'nuclear weapon' in MechQuest. Is it true there will be nuclear weapons in MechQuest? I know it says that it is not available to players at the moment, but how would you know?--Jkrcatuira (talk) 20:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I've never heard anything about it, but I haven't had time to play for the last couple of weeks. It's probably something someone made up. I think I removed it when I was cleaning up the article today. --Eruhildo (talk) 20:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

If it is true, then it would be already in the article AND confirmed by the AE staff. Enterprise-1701e (talk) 02:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It could be true, under the special weapons section in the hometown menu bar thingy. (totally technical phrase that...) It rings some sort of bell, but it could just have been some other kind of Weapon of Mass Destruction. Does that help you at all? I am the RockReader... I will answer your problems. 16:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I've just reread what I wrote, that's good! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockreader (talk • contribs) 17:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Several of the pvp characters for the staff members (i.e. Rolith and Warlic) have weapons of nuclear damage type. This says nothing for whether players will have nuclear weapons or not, as the staff can code just about anything they want. --Netaviofhell (talk) 02:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Gems Under Star Captains??

I noticed Nova Gems are under Star Captains, but you do not need to be a Star Captain to buy or use Nova Gems. Maybe they could be grouped together under the heading Upgrades? That would apply to both Nova Gems and Star Captainships. If there are no objections in the next few days, I'll probably change it next week. Alinnisawest (talk) 18:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't realize that was true when I did that. Upgrades doesn't sound quite right, but I can't think of anything else so I'll go with it. --Eruhildo (talk) 20:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It is true I have done so with my characters, I am non-SC and Nova Gems may be bought by anyone. --Fridae'sDoom (talk) 06:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

For the last couple of days I've been cleaning up this article to bring it up to the VG MOS standards. I am pleased to anounce that I have finally finished it. I have requested that MechQuest be unprotected so we can move the article. If it goes through, then we should be able to move it in the next day or two. I have no internet connection at home right now, so it could be days before I can get back to this. If the article gets unprotected and I don't move this article, someone please do it for me (just hit the move tab). I want to have this moved to the proper name as soon as possible. ^_^ --Eruhildo (talk) 20:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll do it. Enterprise-1701e (talk) 22:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC) PS:Oh, you already did it? WOW! Enterprise-1701e (talk) 02:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it wasn't me. It was a user named Jmlk17. I think he works on the articles for protection page or whatever it's called. I put in my request for unprotection that I wanted to move the page, so I guess he went ahead and did it for us. ^_^ --Eruhildo (talk) 22:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I thought you moved it. I should have checked the history logs so I know what happened. Enterprise-1701e (talk) 14:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Where did you move it? Shouldn't things like these be removed once they have been resolved? -I am the RockReader... I will answer all of your problems. 17:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

We moved it from "Mech Quest" (with a space) to "MechQuest". Usually we don't remove things from talk pages on Wikipedia. If the page gets long, we archive it. --Eruhildo (talk) 22:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Holidays

What happened to them? The Easter one is here now, and there was the Christmas event, so why didn't they get transfered? Or have I been blind and entirely missed them? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 01:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed the holidays while cleaning up the page as they are not notable. On the DragonFable article I decided to leave the annual holidays, but MechQuest doesn't have any annual holidays yet, so for now let's leave them out. Here's the rule of thumb from the Manual of Style: if the content only has value to people actually playing the game, it is unsuitable. I've been trying to follow this the best I can on the Artix games articles. --Eruhildo (talk) 22:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

We should wait for staff confirmation so removing them is best because there's no point in keeping past events if they don't reoccur, it is basically spam and diverts the needed information, imagine a wiki entry with Past Events and only that, it would be spam and there'd be no reason to keep the wiki entry up. --Fridae'sDoom (talk) 06:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that's not spam. That's just non-notable. --Eruhildo (talk) 17:15, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

They only become notable if they occur once or twice a year. Because MechQuest is not yet 1 yr. old, I'm not sure if the Holidays are to be included. Cap tain | contribs 02:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I am annoyed that my entry was removed, because I think we should mention these sorts of special events. If, when MQ hits 2, there are still around, we will probably not be able to remember the first ones. Could we stick them in some sort of invisible bank of data, so we can retrieve them later? I am not fully used to wikipedia's gadgets etc. Rockreader (talk) 16:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Ever heard of the MechQuest Wiki? --Eruhildo (talk) 17:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, like I said, I'm still quite new here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockreader (talk • contribs) 11:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Characters

The majority of the characters currently listed don't meet WP:FICT. Please reduce the list to main characters only. For example, characters like Brain Slug, Eddie, and Mysterious Johnson should go. Characters like Ballyhoo can stay because she's in more than one game. Characters like Dean Warlic can stay because, while he's possibly a different character, he shares the name of a character from the other games - something that should be explained in the article. Also, there should be no subheaders under Characters - there are not enough notable characters to justify it (plus having so many subheaders looks bad). --Eruhildo (talk) 17:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Noooo! You can't remove my Mysterious Johnson!!! Okay, okay, I guess you're right, he isn't all that notable. Definately Warlic, the house leaders, and Sys-Zero should be in the article. The section *is* getting ridiculously long. You have my blessing to trim it down a bit. Alinnisawest (talk) 14:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, I removed a lot of characters (like the Firefly. WHO CARES?!) and the subheaders. It still needs ork but hopefully it's in better shape. I tried to leave people that could be considered important to the game, such as the teachers at the University and the chief of police. Ballyhoo is in all three games, but this article is not about all three games; it's about MechQuest. She is not significant in MechQuest, so I removed her. If you feel I removed someone woh should be on the list, please feel free to re-add them or delete someone unnecessary. Alinnisawest (talk) 06:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Great job! It looks so much better now. After seeing it this way, I agree that the teachers and the employers should be in the list. You made an excellent point about Ballyhoo - she's not important to this game, but she is to AE. So I'm going to try to put something about her in the AE article. That would be a much better place. --Eruhildo (talk) 19:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll also help out by checking for (*clears throat*, sorry) corrections, in any case. Cap tain | contribs 15:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, new thing about Characters. This quote comes from the section "Relation to Other Artix Entertainment Games":

"Unlike Artix Entertainment's other two games, the characters in MechQuest are all new. However, Moglins are also present in MechQuest."

Perhaps true, but this doesn't allow for the possibility (maybe even probability) that Warlic, Val, Jaania, etc. are the same as in DF, only the Reset happened. Could it be worded slightly better? I'd like some input on this before I just change it, as I know people have different opinions on the Reset and I want to keep the wording as objective as possible. (I personally believe Warlic, Jaania, Val, and so on are the same in DF.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alinnisawest (talk • contribs) 03:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Video

The Artix team has released a new video, DFA(Death From Above). Do we not even mention it? If we do say a statement on it, then where should it be? Should we mention this in the lead, or in a new section?--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 17:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I would say, do it like the Artix vs. The Undead section in the DragonFable article. I guess at the bottom right before the See also section is the best place? It doesn't really seem like it could go any higher. --Eruhildo (talk) 02:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Is the video for DragonFable or MechQuest? Cap tain | contribs 15:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It's in MechQuest. It should be showing in the Cinemech, though I haven't had a chance to check it out. --Eruhildo (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's in the Cinemech. You can only watch it once, then you have to reload the game to watch it again, because of some bug. But it's cool they put it in there... of course, that's why the starship mission was released late... not that I can do it anyway because I don't have the lvl 15 house mech yet... (sorry for the rant!!) Alinnisawest (talk) 03:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Added the section. Hope its up to expectations. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 12:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

It's good. Thanks for doing that. --Eruhildo (talk) 22:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Seen the video yet? Because more viewers means more opinions.--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 19:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Besides the Cinemech, where can you watch DFA? Cap tain | contribs 04:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You can type in Death From Above at YouTube. It'll have a bunch of versions; make your pick. Not sure where else it's available; I think Artix Entertainment gave rights to Youtube.--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. By the way, any other sites to watch?? Cap tain | contribs 22:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Multi-player?

I was glancing through the AQ article and I noticed near the bottom of the last section it said something about Rolith confirming that after the Starship release there could be some multiplayer functions in MQ. Does anyone know anything about this? If this is real, it should definately be added to the article somewhere. Alinnisawest (talk) 03:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but there's no inline reference for that and so if there is none then we can't add it in.--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 19:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone here actually play AQ? I hardly touch the game as I'm pretty busy these days, but if someone else does then they could confirm this. If that's really said in the game, you could add something like: "In AdventureQuest it is revealed that multiplayer functions may be added to MechQuest in the future." Yeah, pretty bad wording on my part, but you get the idea. You don't have to link to a website as a reference - you can just mention where the information comes from in the sentence. Even better might be to mention who said it in the game and where they are located. --Eruhildo (talk) 21:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I re-checked the AQ article, and it just says " It was confirmed by Rolith that it would be possible for MechQuest to be multiplayer after the Starship Release." However, I checked the forums, and while there is an official post by Rolith that they have purchased multiplayer technology, it doesn't say anything about MQ becoming multiplayer, just that it is a possibility some sort of multiplayer function will be added to the games. See this: [1] thread. So I guess we shouldn't put it in the article. I don't edit the AQ article (I don't play it enough to be of any use), so I don't think I'll remove it from that article; if someone else is a more consistent AQ editor, maybe it could be removed? Actually, you know what, I'll put it on the discussion page and see what everyone thinks. Alinnisawest (talk) 22:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for finding that! You're right, I don't see anything about MQ or any of the games really. It just says, "we have the technology, discuss". Good idea to ask on the AQ talk page. --Eruhildo (talk) 01:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ask Veonyx. Veonyx may be of help, I think. I also play AQ, but not recently. Cap tain | contribs 04:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I wrote this on the AQ talk page and Veonyx removed it, so I guess that's taken care of. Alinnisawest (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I probably play AQ a lot more than most people. Anyway, I have tryed for the past I don't know, months to find that on the forums and I even tryed asking Rolith himself via PM (no response -_-) so it has been ommited. ɫ§Veonyx§ɫ ^talk_{to me} 00:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Not needed I found out in the Speculations and Theories Forum... AE has Multiplayer tech already bought and it wasstated in Artix's Christmas/New Year's post. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fridae'sDoom (talk • contribs) 11:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Even if they have it, we have no guarantee that they will add it to any of their current games. Don't forget about the <secret project> Artix is always talking about. We shouldn't add things like this to the article until they are confirmed. Alinnisawest (talk) 19:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you put a ref in? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 11:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anyone else notice this...

It appears to me that the three MechQuest houses are very similar to the Harry Potter houses; according to the Hogwarts Houses article

Wolfblade-Gryffindor: Both value in honor and bravery. And the wolf is similar to the griffin, and the house colors are the same (red and gold).

Runehawk-Ravenclaw: Both have intelligence and the house colors are also similar.

Mystraven-Slytherin: The colors, same shade, and both are sly, cunning houses.

Should we mention this, or wait for perhaps clearance? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I've always thought the three houses were based off of the standard classes: Warrior, Mage, Rogue. Besides, we do't have any real evidence for this, just speculation. So no, I don't think it should be in the article. Alinnisawest (talk) 23:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that the Warrior, Mage and Rogue classes do indeed describe the house's mechs. And I believe that the persons join each house based on their personality (i.e. Brave, intellect).--Sunsetsunrise (talk) 21:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

As such has never officially been stated, it would be OR (original research) --Eruhildo (talk) 21:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

But the Wolfblade - Warrior etc. haven't been officially stated. Has it? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 00:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No it's not - at least not to my knowledge. I've just been letting it slip for now 'cause I don't feel like messing with it at the moment. --Eruhildo (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Alrighty, I rewrote the house descriptions. I got so sick of seeing the (false) information that this house = this class and so on. Maybe they do, but it is not verifiable. Please fix it up, somebody! I wrote it in about twenty-five seconds during English class. (supposedly doing research on embryonic stem cells, but you know how Wikipedia works!!) Alinnisawest (talk) 15:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

During English class? Nice. That was pretty good for 25 seconds. Yeah, I've edited durring class before too. --Eruhildo (talk) 17:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

That's sad. At least I do it while in my own home, doing homework. (Read the first paragragh, I side with the opponents!) Still I ought to talk about MQ. Yes, I agree, there could be a definite link, but these things could be subconcios things in the creators minds. Anyway, we don't know, but we can guess. Perheps put in a statement: "There is some speculation as to whether these are related to the Hogwarts houses of Harry Potter, but it is more commonly thought to relate to the classes of DF, and (AQ?)." That's a fair statement, and also provides all the ideas that we can provide. Refering back to wiki-ing (is that a word? it should be) in class, I actually think it can be a lot more fun. And, it makes teachers think you're brighter than you are! (Until they see the title of the page -Dr Who, Adventure Quest, you know the type!) Rockreader (talk) 16:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I just read the paragraph at the top again, they do talk about it being a 'cross between ..., and Harry Potter...' Isn't that good enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockreader (talk • contribs) 11:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Let's just wait if the AE staff confirms your statement. Cap tain | contribs 02:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for adding!

I requested this article. So thanks!

DarkestMoonlight (talk) 21:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] White Castle under Cities?

An IP user added "White Castle" in the Cities section. I rewrote their description rather than remove it outright, but I'm wondering, should we count it as a city? It's not really a city... and while it's important (I suppose), is it needed in the article? Alinnisawest (talk) 23:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't know. I haven't been to White Castle since I'm not a Star Captain, however, if it's out of the city of Soluna, then I suppose so. Otherwise it should be part of Soluna City. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 19:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

If "White Castle" is am important city, then it's needed. If it is not, then remove it. Ask other people what they think about this. Cap tain | contribs 22:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

That's just it, the White Castle isn't technically another town/city. It's the Kingadent's residence, but all you can do there is get his permission to go to the moon. So I'm thinking it's not notable. Alinnisawest (talk) 23:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Then remove it and either put into Soluna City, or altogether delete it. I think it's notable enough to not be deleted, so merge it wherever it seems best. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 12:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Merged it. --Eruhildo (talk) 15:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Under Soluna City? good. Cap tain | contribs 06:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

Could someone write up something on the basic storyline to go in the Plot section? I haven't played in a while, so I have no clue who the rebels are. Plus I think the article could use a plot summary. --Eruhildo (talk) 20:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

*thinks out loud- err... out typing?* Let's see... main events are:

Sys-Zero disappears
We go to rescue him, find out he's been captured by the SS
We do rescue him, find out he's been infected by the Shadowsycthe Virus (speaking of which, the virus should definately be explained in the article)
The Kingadent sends us on a mission to the moon to wipe out rebels
On the moon, we find a black box that we watch. It reveals the rebels were on a Soluna Defense Force starship that was sabatoged, then attacked by the Shadowsycthe.
We then battle/meet up with Odessa, the leader of the rebels, who tells us that she was the leader of the SDF and that Slugwrath is working with the SS.

So... I'll see if I can throw that together into some sort of a plot summary. Excuse any bizarre abbreviations above; I'm on the forums and so I probably inadvertently used a bunch of forum-only abbreviations... Alinnisawest (talk) 20:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice clean up. But shouldn't it be mentioned that only Star Captains are able to go to the Moon Base? I haven't been able to go there. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 21:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

No, you have to do the Sys-Zero and the starship parts quests, then talk to the kingadent. If you're non-SC, you have to buy a ticket on the starship. Alinnisawest (talk) 01:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mech or mecha?

I seem to notice a mix up of mech and mecha. In many sections there is mention of mecha, and then in another there is mech. Which the official one? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 23:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I meant to bring this up a long time ago, but I forgot *slaps forehead*. Both are used on the website, so I think it's just a matter of us picking one and sticking with it. I have no preference as to which one we use. --Eruhildo (talk) 00:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Isn't mecha the plural of mech? So it's really mechs vs. mecha. Personally, I prefer mecha (I think it sounds better), but it may be an unknown word to readers. So perhaps we should use mechs. Alinnisawest (talk) 01:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, the Wikipedia article is mecha, and generally we go with the most common name. I'm used to "mecha" - probably from anime and such - and the mecha article seems to say that "mecha" is the original word? I say we go with "mecha" then - we'll have a link to its article anyway if someone doesn't know what it is. Oh, and "mecha" is both singular and plural (it's a Japanization and Japanese has no plural form). --Eruhildo (talk) 02:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, then, sounds good. I will be looking through the article and replacing mech as necessary! Alinnisawest (talk) 04:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Good good good. All right. Thank you. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 12:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] War

What do people want to say about the war? If it follows the usual lines, then we'll get rewards for each battle, which you can trade, but i don't know about here. Any ideas? --Rockreader (talk) 14:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Is this really needed for the article? And I don't know too much about either. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 12:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I think talking about wars in general would add to the article, but listing the wars themselves would not. --Eruhildo (talk) 14:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

All right then. I suppose we could start by first brainstorming and then shorten the list, and finally add to the article.

We know that all the wars have been based on Shadowscythe attack (with the exception of the GEARS games, though that's not quite a war).
It has included either Dean Warlic as the main NPC to talk to, or Sys-Zero (he's the main defender of GEARS, though currently under influence of Shadowscythe.
All wars have suspiciously no help from the Soluna Armed Forces, though the current war has a group of them.

That's all from me so far... --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 01:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

(minor clarification) Technically, in this war, we have help from the Soluna Defense Force, which apparently also had a part in protecting our dear Kingadent Sluggy, until the backstabbing coward sabatoged them. If we did put a thing in about wars (perhaps in Plot?), I'd say it should briefly explain the nature of wars (all players work together to defeat waves), tell that the SS is behind them, and sort of put in about how all the wars have been fought off by GEARS (and now the SDF rebels on the moon), due to Sluggy's, how can I put it, political views. (in other words, he's working with the SS, so of course he's not going to send the army to help us!!) Alinnisawest (talk) 22:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Goodbye war... --Rockreader (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References Section

A section on references to outside media has been added to the article. I know the (massively huge) references section was removed from the DF article, and I'm thinking that it's unnecessary in this article, too. So what's the concensus? Should we keep or remove the references section? My vote's for remove. It's not necessary and not useful to anyone except players of the game. Alinnisawest (talk) 19:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Removed it. --Eruhildo (talk) 20:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of which, I know this will be hard, but we do need to somewhat increase the ref section. Books won't help us, it's too recent. Perhaps we could try as many search engines? Or from the forums? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 15:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Sunsetsunrise, if you mean the section about references ingame to outside media (like the Deathnote reference, for example... I'm still chuckling over that one), I don't think it's necessary. If you mean the references section at the end (like where to go for more information), well... *scratches head* I've looked a lot, but there really isn't a lot of information out there. That doesn't mean it's not notable (for crying out loud, they have what, 40 million accounts for the three games?), but it may be difficult to find stuff on it. You can find reviews and so on... oh! I just thought of something. This relates to DragonFable more than MQ, but there was something about Cysero being interviewed for Games for Windows magazine, but I don't think it's come out yet. Alinnisawest (talk) 22:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Well we better get some support to these writings or else it's possible that the article could be deleted, as the template now put on says. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 13:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Check out WP:VG/S#List - it's got a bunch of websites that are considered reliable. I plan to go through them soon myself and look for AE stuff. --Eruhildo (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SDF?

Perhaps we should add a subsection about the Soluna Defense Forces? Perhaps to part of Setting? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 15:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I added something. We have a section on the SS, why not on the SDF? Alinnisawest (talk) 22:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks good, though I would say be more careful to keep the text in a real world perspective per WP:VG/GL#Style (yeah, I know it's hard to do, I have trouble with it too). --Eruhildo (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

However, I do have a question; if the SDF is a guard section, what were they doing in Tibattleonia and where ever the place Death from Above took place? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 18:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

That could have been just regular army, if it was different from the SDF, but I'm guessing that the rebels aren't the entire SDF, just Sluggy's guards. I mean, the whole SDF fitting on one little starship? So I think the SDF is probably the army, and the rebels were an elite group of them, like the Navy SEALS the U. S. Marine Corps. Alinnisawest (talk) 18:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Cutscene

...just a moment... let me gather my wits... I'm still half in shock, half laughing my head off at the new cutscene where we defeat Slugwrath. Anyway, at the end, it is highly implied that Evilcorp is in charge of the Shadowscythe and that they are controlled by Zorbak, of all moglins. It's pretty obvious to people who've played AE games a lot (the eyes and the scar are lit up, but the rest is black... but it has to be Zorbak. The scar is a dead giveaway) but to people less familiar with the games, it may just seem like speculation if it gets put in the article. What do you think? I am convinced that this cutscene proves Zorbak is the leader of Evilcorp and, presumably, the Shadowscythe, but I don't know how to express that certainty without sounding speculative. Alinnisawest (talk) 08:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't get past the Second Quest of the whole chain...sad but I've been busy. So I can't really say much but yes, we can't quite say that it's true, but perhaps some sort of implication could be put in. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 11:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to work it into Plot, so I just put in at the end of the SS section that a new cutscene implies that Evilcorp may control them. See, it's all part of Zorbak's master plan to take over the world by giving up uncomfortable dorm room beds and horrific dating shows... Alinnisawest (talk) 20:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plot Summary Rewrite

I redid the plot. The old one was too simple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.167.229 (talk) 01:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Made some changes to it. Please use third person when writing per WP:VG/GL#Style and use the preview button before saving. Thank you. --Eruhildo (talk) 03:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Characters in MechQuest

I don't think this article is necessary. It will just end up like another List of Characters in DragonFable (which probably needs to go bye-bye anyway) and drown in fancruft. I move to remerge the character list into the article, and maybe even trim it down a bit more. Alinnisawest (talk) 04:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Fixed - thanks for noticing that, I haven't been on much. --Eruhildo (talk) 06:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshots?

I was just reading through the entire article and realized there weren't any screenshots of any in-game content whatsoever. I read through the currently available discussion and didn't find anything on it, so I was wondering if we should be adding in pictures of the game here and there off to the side. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Peanut Master (talk • contribs) 03:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

It would be nice. Perhaps some shots of the player's character and combat could work. Alinnisawest (talk) 03:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I could do that, though I suppose we would need a license, no? --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 13:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope, just snap 'em and upload. Oh, but make you choose "Computer game or video screenshot" from the dropdown list and fill in the {{Non-free use rationale}} template with the appropriate data. Also, I believe that the short side can be no longer than 300px since it's a non-free image. --Eruhildo (talk) 05:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

All right, you'll be receiving them by Saturday. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 20:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Characters not Needed?

It's just a big list. There's no use to it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.174.143 (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

There is a use to it, but it currently needs to be revised. It looks like it's getting filled with minor characters again, though I haven't played in a couple months so I don't know for certain. --Eruhildo (talk) 05:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it is. The big question is who to include and who to cut. We definately need characters essential to the plot (Warlic, Odessa, Sluggy, and Sys-Zero). Alinnisawest (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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