User talk:Mchavez

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1 Richard Dawkins
2 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Ontogeny1977.jpg
3 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Lyingstonesmarrakech.jpg
4 Welcome
5 A couple points
6 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:RocksofAges.jpg
7 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Eversincedarwin.jpg
8 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Leonardosmountain.jpg
9 Fair use rationale for Image:NaturalhistoryMag.jpg
10 Non-fiction infoboxes

[edit] Richard Dawkins

Following your interesting revelation of the "forgery" (or whatever it is) on the AAAS webpage I added an accessdate to the reference, in case someone sees fit to put it right now that it has been exposed! One or two other small changes as well. I hope that's all ok. ATB. --Old Moonraker 08:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's all very interesting, but more likely an OCR copying error rather than some nefarious plot by the AAAS to bolster evolution (as if it needed such irrelevant support). Most creationists in my experience are very quick to propose a conspiracy against their side. But don't you think the whole issue of 15, or 115, or 150, or whatever, should be removed all together. In my opinion it just distracts away from the main topic of the article. If someone put a mess like that in one of the articles I regularly edit, it would have been imideatly done away with, or at very best put in an endnote. Best, Miguel Chavez 04:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree: I really can't see the AAAS doing anything as crude and as blatant. Fancifully, it could be a "hack" from Oxford University Union, taking to heart Dawkins's comment about the shame of having even one vote in support from members of such a renowned institution.

It's definitely a side-issue compared with the main thrust of the article and such a small point doesn't have a place. However, editors supporting the creationist view (that is, ensuring that the article is well balanced and "representative") see Dawkins's WP page as one with a high number of "hits" from the real-world readership and are keen not to lose any "factoids" that support their world view. While maintaining WP:AGF, there is occasionally a tendency to use the page as a point-scoring battleground, rather than a biography. My point is, that we might have a bit of a tussle if we try to delete it and keep the article focussed. I would support this, however. --Old Moonraker 06:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

To me it is all very distracting, and smells of POV. I understand the need to score points and all that, but how can an objective encyclopedia hint that an OCR error might be a nefarious act of the AAAS—one of the most respected institutions in the world?! At what point does "balance" override basic common sense? The most sensible resolution is to correct the vote, 198 to 115, and be done with it, or remove the vote all together. Best, Miguel Chavez 07:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Changed my mind. I've gone back to the article and cut out the detail, along the lines you suggest. Let's see how long it lasts! --Old Moonraker 07:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Great! Miguel Chavez 07:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Ontogeny1977.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Lyingstonesmarrakech.jpg

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

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[edit] A couple points

Hi, a couple points. First, you don't appear to have ever been welcomed. Welcome!

Second, regards this edit, your summary states that the references were butchered, I wonder if you might be referring to an edit I had made - several months ago I spent several hours converting all of the references from raw references to citation templates.

Third, you had embedded an external link in the main text, The Medium isn't the Message. Generally embedding an external link in this manner is deprecated, and the link already accompanies the text in the form of an inline citation. I've removed the embedded link, given this. I've also removed the link in the external links section to the same article (don't know if you had put it there); given it being cited in the text, an EL isn't really appropriate anymore.

Please let me know if you've any questions, thanks. WLU (talk) 11:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Oops two more points,

I removed the second link to the unofficial SJG library to his book reviews - a single link to the whole page is considered adequate to access the entire page's contents, though the sub-pages can be linked as inline citaitons.
Though you are allowed to simply delete information from your talk page, the preferred option is archiving. WLU (talk) 11:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:NaturalhistoryMag.jpg

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[edit] Non-fiction infoboxes

When using {{infobox book}}, please use 'subject' rather than 'genre' for non-fiction works like Wonderful Life (book). Cheers. Richard001 (talk) 08:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)