User talk:MBisanz

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This user, Matthew Bisanz, is currently being considered for election to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees.

To ask me questions, please visit the Questions page. To vote for me, please visit the instructions at the Voting page.

Thank you for your time in considering my candidacy, I recognize that all of our editors volunteer their time in order to create and spread free-content, and am honored that you are taking the time to participate in these elections.

If you support Matthew's candidacy, please consider adding {{User:MBisanz/Board}} to your userpage during the election.

Hi, This is just my talk page, feel free to leave any advice on my edits or ask for help on anything. If you feel I've abused my administrative or BAG powers, please see User:MBisanz/Recall for further instructions.


This talk page is automatically archived by MiszaBot III.
Any sections older than 10 days are automatically archived here. An archive index is available here.
Archive
Archives
Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3
About archives • Edit this box


Contents

[edit] re: GFDL through deleted edits

Good evening. I saw your recent comment about a developer who committed that Wikipedia will never purge deleted contributions. I was rather surprised to read that since I've heard several developers assert the opposite - that they always reserved the right to purge again if they felt it necessary. Admittedly, that was a few years ago now but it is a rather notable change of position, especially since it changes some of our starting assumptions about the processes we have built up around deletion. Since you spoke with the developer in person, do you think you could convince him/her to make that commitment publicly, perhaps at the Deletion policy page? More people should know about that change. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 00:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll send him an email, I also might be seeing him again this weekend, so I should have some answer. MBisanz talk 00:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Just checking in to see if you'd heard anything yet. Rossami (talk) 05:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Goatsecx2.jpg

Please explain your reason for deleting the above image, thanks --  Chzz  ►  05:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

You uploaded that image as a renamed image to get around the intent of a page salting. You were on IRC at the time and were advised by a number of users and admins to cease uploading such non-free shock images without discussion. You refused, so I deleted the image as a recreation of a deleted image and as an invalid non-free image. MBisanz talk 21:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Great to meet you today

I really enjoyed it. I have to say, your photo with the tag reminds me so much of our badge tags when I lived/worked in Japan. Need to find one of those photos, it will make you chuckle I think. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I like the PPT. I think you did fine without it though. My one aversion to PPT is people reading screens rather than talking -- I think we had talking down pat :) The academy scares me slightly -- very formal and no doubt educational but I have a desire to send in a clown and make them laugh. Have a good day! TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 14:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infrogmation

Hi, I believe I have it enabled again. (It was years ago, and I thought it still was. I guess all the emails I've been getting recently have been via Commons.) Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 06:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! MBisanz talk 06:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Election

Hello, I saw an ad for the election, and after reading over the profiles, I would like to vote for you, but it says that I am not qualified to vote. I believe I meet the criteria (see my userpage for stats) and am hoping you can either tell me whether I don't meet the criteria or who I can contact to find out. Best --Eustress (talk) 18:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hiya, thanks for the support, but yea, your thoughts were right, you don't have 600 edits made before 1 March 2008, so your name isn't on the list of people eligible to vote. Of course, that just means you have to wait till next year to vote (or maybe run yourself) :) MBisanz talk 19:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Which Wikispace must these edits be in? I have plenty of edits in WikiEnglish, but the voting must be for something different. --Eustress (talk) 23:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Eckerdlogosmall.gif)

Thanks for uploading Image:Eckerdlogosmall.gif. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Possibly-unfree-mural

Mind taking a look at {{Possibly-unfree-mural}}. Not sure what is going on with this template. It looks like a deletion template without categorizing into a deletion category. Found it while going through Category:Non-free image copyright tags, and I don't think it belongs there, but I wasn't sure where to put it. Thanks. - AWeenieMan (talk) 04:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] License Templates

I am working on a list of exactly what would need to be done to standardize non-free image license templates (basically, what it would be nice to see your bot do). Might be useful in getting an idea of how big a task we are talking about. - AWeenieMan (talk) 18:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It dawns on me that you might want to update MediaWiki:Licenses before starting your replacement runs. Otherwise people will be using soft redirects as licenses from the upload screen. - AWeenieMan (talk) 16:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For your participation in my recent RFA. Feel free to weigh in at my in-depth RFA analysis. There's also some templated RFA spam below for you ;>. best of luck in the board elections! xenocidic (talk) 00:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

templated rfa thank-spam

[edit] Upload

Since you've been the maintainer of this page, I'm pointing you at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Upload MBisanz talk 22:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I've left a comment and I am definitely interested in seeing how this will play out. —Remember the dot (talk) 01:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Bot Approvals Group (3rd nomination)

There are better ways of resolving problems with the BAG, such as WP:CENT. The current looks of the MFD is a 9-0 tally (excluding the nominators), and I would just speedy keep this one per WP:BOLD and WP:SNOW, but there are multiple requests on the page to let it run longer. Please let me know if you still object to it being closed early. Useight (talk) 06:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what kind of precendent you want set by letting the MFD run its full course. It looks like it's going to end in "Keep" whether it runs 5 days or gets snowed. PS - Good luck on the Board of Trustees vote. Useight (talk) 06:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see what you're going for. Five full days would obviously provide better evidence that the community does not want BAG dissolved, but I don't know if that can be extended to the assumption that the community rejects the method of bot approval. Useight (talk) 06:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Voting eligibility

I an not sure I am eligible to vote in the trustees election. Can you advise me as to how to find out one way or the other. Is ther a quick way to count ones edits ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albion moonlight (talk • contribs)

link Enigma message 08:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
You are indeed eligible to vote. Enigma [[User

talk:Enigmaman|message]] 08:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I could not get through to vote. The computer I use runs on linux. Perhaps that is the problem. Albion moonlight (talk) 09:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I run Debian linux on Iceweasel, and had no problems. SQLQuery me! 05:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Upload

I've notched it down to semi for a couple (5ish) hours, I'll re-up before going to bed later. MBisanz talk 23:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll see what I can do with it. The Transhumanist    23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Too late, I got yelled at a lot on IRC for semi-ing, so I had to reprotect! MBisanz talk 23:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Very sorry about what happened, I tried notching down the protection for a few hours, with me sitting here constantly refreshing the watchlist to catch vandalism, but the noise from other admins screaming about me opening the interface to vandalism was so loud, that I had to re-protect. That page has been a mega gripe to me since I started at wiki, and sadly I'm too technically dumb to fix it. MBisanz talk 20:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
No worries. By the way, what do you think is wrong with the page? The Transhumanist    20:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I've defined the problem, as best as an idiot can, at User:MBisanz/ImageSystemProposal and bugzilla:12452. But sadly its apparently an insurmountable task for our current dev corp. MBisanz talk 20:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot questions

Hi MBisanz, some random questions for you:

  1. My understanding of BRFA is that an editor makes a submission and discussion ensues until one member of BAG is satisfied that the bot should be approved for trial, that one member then approves the bot for trial (usually, sometimes just stamps it through). Is that an accurate perception?
    Yes
  2. Should the standard bot application questions include "location of source code"? This is not to insist on publication, but would allow a little more transparency and selectivity of approval.
    I like the idea of publishing source code, as far as adding that question, I don't know to what end it would bring. I could answer "The source code is on my laptop" and that would be honest, or I could say "I house it on a secure NASA server". If, as Bot policy currently exists, we do not mandate disclosure to a specific location, I don't see the benefit to knowing where it is located.
  3. Is Betacommand a currently active BAG member? Suspended pending reconfirmation? Waiting for the dust to settle? I'm not clear on the exact status between BAG page and talk.
    I consider Betacommand suspended from BAG per community consensus, pending a reconfirmation election to begin on June 20th.
  4. Pushing it a little bit now, at WP:BAG we have "Members of the group are experienced in writing and running bots, have programming experience...", then at WT:BAG/DHMO we have "I admit my technical knowledge isn't the greatest", followed by "Consensus reached, adding to WP:BAG". Do the requirements for BAG membership need to be rewritten in light of this?
    We generally require Crats at en.wiki to know how to use the tools, yet I am aware of one crat who recently had to be taught the Rename rules as he had not performed Renames before. If the community feels Giggy is qualified to approve bots, even if he lacks a detailed technical understanding of code, who are we to question the community?
  5. And following on that same thread, we see the candidate on 09May saying "I'm absolutely going to take it slow, no question about that. If you wish, I will refrain from making full approvals for a month", instated on 20May and then on 30May we have making a full approval.
    As you note, the closing crat did not stipulate any restrictions on Giggy's membership, nor did there appear to be a consensus among voters that there should be any restrictions, so I would say the community failed to take him up on the offer to refrain from approving for a certain period of time.

I don't necessarily want to open a can of worms, I'm mostly interested in the first two questions, so you can consider the rest optional. Thanks! Franamax (talk) 23:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hope that answers the questions, I'm willing to elaborate on any or answer other questions if you'd life me to. MBisanz talk 06:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Good questions, that deserve a full answer. At class right now, but you will have very detailed answers when I get home. I recognize that BAG has had somewhat of a reputation of secrecy and hoped when I joined it to make it more transparent. MBisanz talk 23:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I am almost certain that I am eligble

Your message seemed to contain typing errors that left me confused. Anyway I have until the 21st and I am sure you are very busy. I will copy the error message word for word at some point after I get a machine that uses windows. I share a computer and it has its own private server that I do not have access to. That has proven to be a source of difficulty pursuant to Wiki in the past and may be the problem now. :Albion moonlight (talk) 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks I hope to make it to windows operated computer tomorrow. Anyway I appreciate all your help so far and I will get back to you if I am still unable to vote after accessing a windows operated machine.

[edit] thanks

Thanks for handling the request on my talk page. Just so you know about the situation, I am planning a fairly busy schedule for my summer break. As has been the case for the past few months, I will sometimes have days when I am very active, while there will also be times like this week when I will be completely inactive or barely active for several days, or perhaps even more than a week.

I see you're doing great work as an administrator. Good luck with your run for the Wikimedia Board! Academic Challenger (talk) 07:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] License templates

Hi, Matthew - I got your note on my talk page. Don't worry about the effect your work has on those pages in my userspace - they're just a scratchpad. As a matter of fact, feel free to edit them as you will if you need to. I plan to go back and clean those up sometime soon; I was working on standardizing licenses between here and Commons, but I put that aside for a while because I'm working on something else (moving Flickr-sourced images to Commons where they're safe from license changes). With respect - Kelly hi! 13:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revitalizing WP:ADCO

I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to be contacting several coaches on the status page who aren't "full" and suggesting coachees for them. I feel that it's time to revitalize coaching and start to work on the backlog of requests. If there's anything you think I should know, feel free to contact me. Malinaccier (talk) 00:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oh well

I presented the best case I could. There's just so much paranoia regarding that page. I don't get it.

The Transhumanist    00:12, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fantastic.

Your last comment on the mediation page was very timely. There is a lot of reason to be hopeful now. Thanks for that. : Albion moonlight (talk) 05:57, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Free culture?

I do not think that Skype could be usuable to "spread free culture" while it is censored. I suppose that you were joking. --Snek01 (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion. I will not vote for you. I hope that you will change your mind in the future. You can still change your statement, because other sections of your statement are good. --Snek01 (talk) 10:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost updated for June 2, 2008.

The Wikipedia Signpost
Weekly Delivery


Volume 4, Issue 23 2 June 2008 About the Signpost
Board elections open WikiWorld: "Facial Hair" 
Wikipedia in the News Dispatches: Style guide and policy changes 
Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News 
The Report on Lengthy Litigation
Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST

You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 07:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MBisanzBot

I'm not 100% sure of this, but your bot seems to be making some errors: diff. Not really sure why that happened, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Drewcifer (talk) 07:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Drewcifer (talk) 07:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Yep, it was picking up the }} wrong on some types of images, I've tightened the regex, so it shouldn't happen again. MBisanz talk 08:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings from Campora San Giovanni

Is good evening to you, an Italian uuser, do I sustain your candidacy on Wikimedia, would you be so kind to be helped to translate me from English into Spanish the voice of my village? thanks --Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC) p.s. sorry my bad english--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] My Rfa

Thanks, MBisanz, for participating in my recent RfA, which recently passed with 81 support and 1 neutral !votes. I appreciate all the support and constructive criticism offered in my RfA and I thank you for taking the time to !vote in my nomination. I feel so honoured to be trusted by so many of you and please, if you have any advice, comments or complaints about my actions as an administrator, leave a note on my talk page.

I would also like to thank Acalamari, Rlevse and Nishkid64, for their nomination statements.
Thank you again.
AngelOfSadness talk 23:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I am still unable to vote.

I went to a windows run Pc but I still am not being allowed to vote. Can you help ? Albion moonlight (talk) 05:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

No I forgot and I just assumed it would work, I will try again tommorrow or the next day and copy the message this time. Albion moonlight (talk) 07:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Thank you for the comment on my RFA. While I should have given a little more thought when I did those actions, I am happy you brought them up for me to learn form them. :) Thanks again. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 19:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfD nomination of Template:Restricted use

I have nominated Template:Restricted use (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz talk 05:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thank you very much for your swift and bold action here. Your work is appreciated. Watchdogb (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion on edit summaries

Could you please explain what you meant by "add" in these two edit summaries, [1] and [2]? Thank you in advance, Aspects (talk) 04:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coaching

Hello fellow Long Islander. I have a question regarding my Admin coach, User:Shyam. As per his contribs, he seems to have left, or be inactive. I'd like to proceed with coaching, and would like to know what I should do. Thank you so much, TheDJAtClubRock :-) (T/C) 01:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC).