Talk:MBDA Meteor

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I need some help here, I cannot find the "Image Text" which is still showing up.

I removed the image because it did not show the MBDA Meteor (which has a "rounder" nose, ramjet-intakes on a single plane and is quite thick), but the Raytheon FMRAAM, with the FMRAAM-logo removed and a fin added, obviously in photoshop.

And since the FMRAAM images are copyrighted... well, you get the idea.

Are you certain ? You sound like having seen only the image on [1], which shows the Meteor under an angle. See images on [2], you will see that the nose is not rounder, the body not thicker and that there are indeed two ramjets intakes. Rama 16:24, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I am not certain. The image on gsec actually IS distorted, giving the Meteor quite a different appearance. Actually, I was under the false impression that the Meteor's design was "final", which might not be the case. At least in the article image, the Meteor seems to have an additional fin at the same angle as the "top right" tail stabilizer, which is not there in the official MBDA Meteor image on the MBDA Website. But that just might be because of the pre-production state of the inert missile shown.

[edit] Supercruise and climb capablity

WHat is so special about the F-22 ? The Rafale and the Eurofighter also has supercruise abilities, so it is not obvious how this element evens the AMRAAM with respect to the Meteor, am I missing something ? Rama 13:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

It's just repeating what Jane's Defence Weekly said; Jane's has a very good reputation for getting this kind of stuff right. But to answer your question, there's lots of special things about the F-22; the special things that may give it a better AMRAAM range are that it can allegedly accelerate and supercruise faster than the Eurofighter and particularly the Rafale (whose supercruise abilities are apparently very marginal), has a very high climb rate (higher than anything else), and may have a higher top speed with combat weapons loading (though this is speculation) So, when the F-22 goes to launch an AAMRAAM, it can launch it from higher and going faster, and thus get more effective range out of it. The Eurofighter can probably get more effective range out of the AMRAAM than current fighters as well. --Robert Merkel 02:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, I'd die less stupid this evening than I would have in the morning :) Rama 06:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

No less stupid, just less ignorant :p There is a difference.

The F-22 has a better climb rate than the Eurofighter? Can you back this up, I cannot find any references of F-22s climb rate, and probably because the information is classified. So what do you know what others don't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.232.80 (talk) 12:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Meteor3.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)