Talk:Mazdaspeed3

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[edit] Criticisms

Is there a source for criticisms of poor fuel economy? I've read many reviews and have not seen it. The mpg ratings are pretty normal for a car in this class, and significantly better than the subaru wrx, for example. Friday (talk) 15:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I have removed this unsourced bit for now, per the Biographies of Living Vehicles policy. Friday (talk) 18:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

That seems to be a general problem on this article; unsourced material or material cited to forums/blogs. I suggest a reading of WP:RS and WP:V by some of the IP contributors here.--Isotope23 talk 18:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd guess this is common with car articles. People talk about cars on the internet a lot. Friday (talk) 18:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Body style

Anyone have opinions on whether to call it a hatchback or a wagon, and where? Obviously it's both, but I don't know that I think we should mention both in the lead sentence. I'd tend to prefer "wagon" myself, as it's more specific. Friday (talk) 15:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

This seems to frequently get changed, but from the sources I've seen, most of them call it a "wagon". Either option is reasonable but I hope it gets discussed a bit instead of just getting changed back. Friday (talk) 23:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Someone changed it again with an utterly spurious edit summary. I guess there's no hope people will actually use the talk page? I guess I'll put it back, as it's supported by sources. Friday (talk) 13:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The Mazdaspeed3 is a hatchback. It is an upgraded version of the Mazda3 5-door, which is a hatchback. Mazda's website calls the Mazda3 5-door a hatchback. Considering that the practical differences between the 5-door 3 and the Speed3 relate solely to the drivetrain, suspension, wheels, and chassis stiffening, and the fact that the Speed3's length is the same as that of the normal 5-door 3, I would argue that the Speed3 is also classified as a hatchback. Cataphract_40 (talk) 04:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely classed as a hatchback- this was never in doubt. It's also classed as a wagon- pretty much all wagons have been hatchbacks for a good many years now. I agree that Mazda does not use the (spurned by the industry lately) term "wagon"- but the automotive press does. Friday (talk) 21:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Sports car"

Someone put this in the Category:Front wheel drive sports cars category, which I don't think it at all appropriate. This is a station wagon- about as far from a sports car as you can get. However we should be using what the sources say, rather than our own criteria. So, if someone can produce sources calling this a "sports car", I suppose I'll let it slide, but if not I'll probably be removing this from that category. Friday (talk) 20:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong, it is certainly not a "station" wagon as that category is more for practical use and is generally assumed as family vehicles. I'm not sure how qualified you are in terms of the automotive market but according to most sources it is one of the best FF cars (in terms of performance)therefore I believe that it does belong in this category. Not to mention that I have never heard of the Hyundai Tiburon or Honda Civic Si being called sports cars, also considering they don't hold a candle to it when it comes to performance.
I agree the performance is impressive, but this doesn't mean it's a sports car. Compare it to say, a Dodge Magnum RT- performance is very similar, but neither one is a sports car. Friday (talk) 21:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] chassis code

I am considering putting in the Chassis Code designation (such as FC3S, FD3S for the RX7) that is BK3P for the Mazdaspeed3/ Axela MPS. This is according to the JDM aftermarket, more specifically Autoexe. I am planning to do this shortly, but I would like to hear any comments about how and where to put it, Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.251.6 (talk) 21:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think chassis codes are needed in this article. The RX-7 article uses them as they are the most common way that enthusiasts designate generations for that vehicle. As the Mazdaspeed 3 only has one generation I feel that chassis codes would be pretty crufty especially in such a short article. --Daniel J. Leivick (talk) 21:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah it seems like a minor detail to me too- not something that needs to be included. Friday (talk) 20:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)