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[edit] Alumni from Mayo?

Who are the famous people from this institution?

I've heard that Mr. Jaswant Singh, ex-Foreign Minister of India, is one.

A list should be made and posted here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sarkar2 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

The few that I know of are:

Jaswant Singh
Amir Raza Hussain
Vir Sanghvi
Vikram Chandra
Tunku Varadarajan
Pradip Krishen
Sudeep Chakravarty

[edit] Also see: Amongst many others also see wikipedia articles on the following for ideas how to improve this article on Mayo College

Category: Dosco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Dosco

Atulsnischal 03:22, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment advice

Someone asked at the schools project for help. This page is looking good for a start. Userbox should be more complete. One reference is not enough ... 20? Pictures? 5 or 6. See La Martiniere Lucknow for some ideas. Hope this helps Victuallers 19:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Searching for sources

How to Search for (1) "Latest" and (2) "Archived" ""NEWS & FEATURE ARTICLES" on "Schools / anything" from top newspapers and magazines, also as well how to search for relevant Blog Postings many of which contain local "Print News Articles" not available online - EXAMPLE Mayo College (Plrease help with improving the article on Mayo College, thanks)

As we all know in addition to referring to the main official website if we can research as many news and feature articles from top newspapers and magazines on each subject (article on wikipedia) and highlight top points in our own words or by "quoting" by properly referencing all such research, it improves the wikipedia article many folds and makes it much more credible along with providing many excellent independent unbiased reference links to readers.

  • In the following "News Search pages" you could search by trying different keywords for the same subject, and also change the subject to any other you are currently working on. Please be beware many of the search results will not be relevant. Please also note at the bottom or in the left margin of each "search result page" you will see links to additional related "search and alert services" being offered by these companies (Yahoo, Google etc.), all for free. Also note current news searches for current times may come up blank if there has been no current news or feature article written in the last few months, look in Google News ARCHIVES in that case:

1) "Google News Search" for Mayo College: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22&btnG=Search

2) "Google ARCHIVES News Search", including news from last year and before, has further links in the left margin to break up archived news by year and by publication, for news on Mayo College: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22

3) "Google "Blog Postings" search for Mayo College: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=%22Mayo+College%22&ie=UTF8

4) "Yahoo News Search" for news on Mayo College: http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search;_ylt=A0WTTks7YtxGMgcB1xWy87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhNjRqazhxBHNlYwNzZWFyY2g-?fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8&p=%22Mayo+College%22

  • In addition to above you can also make "As-It-Happens News Alerts" for articles that interest you and you will like to work on and want to keep abreast with. The news alert service provided by Google and Yahoo sends you latest news as it happens to your email inbox:

1) Set up Google News Alert at: http://www.google.com/alerts

2) Set up Yahoo News Alert at (for this you will have to sign in with your Yahoo Email ID first): http://alerts.yahoo.com/main.php?view=create_news_step1


I learnt about the above services in the last year while looking for news on Asiatic Lion and Asiatic Cheetah two subjects that interest me.

Hope this information will be useful to all, thanks

Atulsnischal 19:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

  • For example here is a 1921 news item from "Google News Archives (see link abve)" that Prince of Wales comes to visit Indian Princes studying at Mayo College, Ajmer, India. News item from Washington Post:

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/190966712.html?dids=190966712:190966712&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=NOV+30%2C+1921&author=&pub=The+Washington+Post&desc=RAJPUTANA+GREETS+PRINCE&pqatl=google

Atulsnischal 07:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You may want to look at www.webcitation.org to archive permanent versions of articles that will be removed from free online public viewing after they've been available for a certain time period. --Hebisddave 14:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion on how to format References properly in Wikipedia (press the Edit button to see the formula)

Main article: Wikipedia:Footnotes

Note: Please read this full section after pressing Edit above, read in the Edit Box after pressing edit for it to make sense.

Please note that the full references have to be put between [1] in the main text in the article right next to the subject line, the reference automatically appears in a numerical order in the “Cited references” section, here are two examples taken from the Miscellaneous section of the List Mayoites, you have to make the “Cited references” section though, see below on how to after pressing edit above:

(Please ignore Reference Number 1 in Cited reference section below, when you press edit (above in the heading next to "Suggestion on how to format References...") to see the formula you will know why)

  • Jiggs Kalra: Celebrity Chef[2]
  • Raghavendra Rathore – famous Fashion Designer from India[3][4][5]

[edit] Cited references

  1. ^ and
  2. ^ Jiggs Kalra Interview in The Hindu
  3. ^ Raghavendra Rathore - Fashion, Indianetzone.com
  4. ^ For the designer in you – The Hindu, India's National Newspaper dated Apr 07, 2006
  5. ^ Royal rendezvous - Raghavendra Rathore talks of the corporatisation of fashion with Mini ANTHIKAD-CHHIBBER - The Hindu, India's National Newspaper dated Oct 25, 2005


Note: Now you can go back from the edit box (presuming you had pressed Edit and are reading this in the edit box on wikipedia) to previous page by pressing the back button on your internet browser, do not save your edit here as you had initially pressed Edit on my suggestion to read the formula above on how to format references.

Hope above will be useful, thanks

Atulsnischal 00:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source of this photo of Mayo College postal stamp

Description: Indian Postage Stamp issued on Mayo College, Ajmer, India in 1986.

Source: I personally took this photo of this Indian Postage Stamp issued on Mayo College, Ajmer, India from my collection.

Date: 26th August 2007

Author of original stamp is the issuing authority: India Post, the Department of Posts, Ministry of Communications and Information Technology, India

Author and photo editor of this photo of the Mayo school stamp is me as I have the stamp in my personal collection and i photographed it personally.

Atulsnischal 03:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {Non-free stamp}

This image is of a postage stamp. The copyright for it may be owned by the issuing authority, and there may be other restrictions on its reproduction. It is believed that the use of postage stamps

  • to illustrate the stamp in question (as opposed to things appearing in the stamp's design)
  • on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation,

qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Other use of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Non-free content for more information.

To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information.

[edit] Licensing

This image is meant to demonstrate the postage stamp only described in the corresponding Wikipedia article on Mayo College and is in no way meant to infringe any copyright law. It is a very low definition image and therefore unable to be used in any insidious manner.

Mayo College article on English Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayo_College

Atulsnischal 13:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this is not an article on the stamp. Trivial one-liners or a couple of sentences do not satisfy fair use criteria for such non-free material. If you start an article on the stamp, please feel free to use it there. Until then, don't add the copyrighted material.
Also notable is that India Post specifically asserts copyright on its stamps, and under no circumstances allow color reproductions in any resolution. --Ragib 03:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use in Mayo College article Non-free / fair use media rationale Description

Use in accordance with Wikipedia:Non-free content, English Wikipedia servers are located in USA, USA Copyright allows fair use of foreign stamps, for more details read accompanying Tag at this image page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Indian_Postage_Stamp_issued_on_Mayo_College%2C_Ajmer%2C_India_in_1986.JPG

[edit] Licensing

This image is meant to demonstrate the postage stamp only which has been written about in the text in the Wikipedia article on Mayo College and is in no way meant to infringe any copyright law. It is a very low definition image and therefore unable to be used in any insidious manner.

Text specially talks about this postage stamp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayo_College#School_stamp

Atulsnischal 04:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Trivial one or two sentence mentions about a stamp does not justify fair use. Per Category:Fair_use_stamp_images
As the template mentions, stamp images in this category should not be used solely as a cheap way to illustrate articles. In addition to the problem that images are often altered for artistic reasons and thus may not be factually accurate representations of their subject, Wikipedia:Fair use criteria does not allow for it.
Since free alternatives are available for illustrating the college building, use of the stamp image does not fall under Fair Use. I'm removing it. If you have a problem, please post a note at WP:ANB/I. I have discussed this issue at ANB several times, and the consensus is to refrain from abusing fair use in case of stamp images, when the article is NOT on the stamp itself. Thank you. --Ragib 05:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Reinserting Mayo Stamp image to illustrate the Stamp in question mentioned in the text of this article, the stamp is not for illustrating the main building as being argued. Here is the related text from the article on the issue of the Mayo College postage stamp, a significant historical event in the history of Mayo College. The described stamp is being illustrated with this image.

[edit] School stamp

On April 12th, 1986, the post and telegraph department of the government of India released a special stamp of Mayo College with the magnificent Main School building on its face in recognition of its pre-eminent role in the field of education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayo_College#School_stamp

Thanks Atulsnischal 07:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

This entire article is composed of copyrighted text pasted from http://www.mayocollege.com . I'm removing the copyvio content, (edit summaries indicate the precise page at MayoCollege.com). --Ragib 06:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Removing of Copyright text from Wikipedia articles by other users:

We can refer to several sources then write it in our own words and sentences and acknowledge the original references in the reference section, if we dont do so and copy and paste text from other websites, other users of Wikipedia will come and delete all copied text and the articled will be stripped down to a few lines at best.

Please also see WP:Copyright, Wikipedia:Citing sources, Wikipedia:Manual of Style, etc that may apply.

Wikipedia guidlines on Using copyrighted work from others::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others (from WP:Copyright).


Was referring to recent edits and stripping of Mayo College article on copyright arguments.

Mayo College article was stripped down from this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mayo_College&oldid=156160948

To this raising copyright concerns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mayo_College&oldid=156219045

Most of the first version above can still be rewritten in ones own words to remove copyright concerns.

Same is true for improving the Mayo College related article on Mayo College Girls School

Thanks Atulsnischal 07:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)