User talk:MaxButterchuck

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Thanks for the heads up Ed! SORRY....I did not realize I was listing the same book as a source over and over again...yikes, won't happen again . -MaxButterchuck

[edit] Revelations, and other fan films

While you're entitled to your opinions on the content of Star Wars: Revelations, unfortunately you're off-base in thinking that it (or other notable fanfilms) doesn't deserve an article. Fact is, there are quite a few fanfilms that have pages, and quite a few that used to, but had their pages deleted - however, those that have stayed have stayed because they have been shown to be notable, whereas the ones of lesser note were removed. That's how Wikipedia works for *all* subjects. You can not like the film all you want - I won't argue taste, as that's entirely subjective - but the film is clearly notable for a number or reasons.

You may think that the film violates "spirit of TRADEMARK/COPYRIGHT Law", but the fact that it is in the offical Lucasfilm-sponsored contest shows that Lucasfilm does not view it as such, as the filmmakers in that outlet must sign legal distrbution agreements (with revenue-sharing included) with Atomfilms. The film would not be on the site if Lucasfilm did not approve.

And FYI, the makers of Revelations did go on to make films of their own - one that George Lucas personally selected as his favorite two years ago, and currently a new webseries pilot for Disney called Trenches. You want to know what was one of the main reasons he got the Disney job? Star Wars Revelations. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 23:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, they went on to make "Pitching Lucas" (according to IMDB) YET ANOTHER "fan-film" of Star Wars which did recieve an fan-film award. REVELATIONS and PITCHING LUCAS are both skirting originality~Shane Felux and crew really should work on something of their own imagination, not George Lucas'. MaxButterchuck (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)MaxButterchuck

Yes, it's true that one might get a job from previously using the work of another filmmaker to base his own from (as in REVELATIONS) but as a Writer myself with my own copyright-lawyer I have to consult on each project, I can assure you that anyone who does that sort of thing takes the chance of a future owner of the franchise/trademark, etc. changing their policy/view of fan-films devoted to their Trademarked Entity. Having a wink-wink-approval from the legitimate franchise one day might not be a binding as an official licensing. Fan-Films that are produced and marketed (online or otherwise) even if a single nickel is exchanged in the process, is an invitation to future trouble. Do you want to know what happens in civil court over trademark issues? >Break out the check-book!< My advice to those who market fan-films like REVELATIONS is this: spend your money and talent coming up with ORIGINAL storylines that may be the same theme (as in sci-fi or horror) but not something based on the work, talent, and ownership of an accomplished filmmaker like George Lucas. Thanks for responding as this is a good discussion despite you and I disagreeing. I welcome your further comments as this is what I prefer to do before adding anything to articles in the future. Fan-films on wikipedia is definitely a topic that needs different points of view and advice. Thanks. MaxButterchuck (talk) 13:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)MaxButterchuck