Talk:Maximilian von Götzen-Itúrbide
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His ancestor, Salvador de Iturbide y de Marzán, renounced any claim to throne after the death of his adoptive father Maximilian. Maximilian von Goetzen cannot be addressed as Prince or referred to as a pretender to the Mexican 'throne'. -Hugh Amazzio-
- This is no different from Otto von Habsburg who also renounced the throne of Austria but is still considered the head of the House of Habsburg. The claim of Doña Concepción to the throne of Mexico is a minority within the already small camp of the Mexican monarchists. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 20:06, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Otto von Habsburg is Head of the Habsburg family regardless of the title Emperor. Any reference to him would not use his titles, instead you would find "Dr. Otto von Habsburg". There is no proof that Doña Concepción's claim is less supported, as at least she lives in Mexico. Mike Fenton. Excuse me but... I think we Mexicans find this claim laughable. Maybe the Moctezuma family (descendants of the last Mexica or Aztec King) has more rights than these ridiculous wanna-be king. Anyway, why have a Monarch if we get one every six years?????
- I don't think it's that laughable at all...people just don't remember their history, and when they find out they think it's odd. The Moctezuma's would be pure Spanish by now, so that's laughable too! BTW..it would be 'Emperor' not 'King'. C.Kent87 00:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] I do
You know, I'm Mexican and could be interesting to have a president and emperor or king???,,, like France, Spain or UK, isn't??, and maybe we don't know can be awesome what happen then. And I don't think this claim laughable. Oh and yes I didn't know anything about and I am agree about Mexican people don't know anything about I guess, for example me, lol, because I hate history, but when I found this, I don't know I red a lot and also I checked the official site "casa imperial org", and that you can found much more about WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT this... And "Maximilian von Gotzen-itúrbide" loves Mexico nowadays and he wants the crown. -- But doesn't he speak Spanish??? --200.64.187.122 09:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I have corrected the surnname of Maximilian to von Gotzen-Aschbrunn, which is his legal name, not Gotzen-Iturbide. His maternal grandmother had the Iturbide surname, not his mother. Also he is the head of the Iturbide claim, not the Moctezuma or Habsburg-Gueroust and as an encyclopedia it is important to show a neutral position. I think a page should be done for the other claimants who have proper support and websites to support it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Labore (talk • contribs) 18:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- I’ve changed it back per http://www.casaimperial.org/genealogy.htm - dwc lr (talk) 17:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
