Talk:Max Heindel

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value-laden editorializing: "Max Heindel was able to perform a valuable work for the Brothers of the Rose Cross"

The neutrality of this article is disputed because of expressions like the following:

  • "upon recovery he was even more keenly awake to the needs of humanity"
  • "with an indomitable will and great energy, Max Heindel was able to accomplish the great work for the Brothers of the Rose Cross"
  • "It is described that, at his death, his body dropped slowly as if loving hands were holding him and laying him down gently" (nice, but hardly acceptable for an encyclopaedia and lacking sources)
  • "students of the Western Wisdom Teachings who, as Invisible Helpers of mankind, assist the Elder Brothers of the Rose Cross to perform the Spiritual Healing around the world"

Besides, no controversial or "difficult" aspects of Heindel's personality are explained. The whole article sounds more like hagiography than objective information. --Jdemarcos 20:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

In fact the nature of a man who warns the world that "The man who realizes his ignorance has taken the first step toward knowledge" (and at the same time whispers to us simple truths such as "It is not what we give but what we share that counts"[1]) and who takes as starting point to his writings the premise "PROVE ALL THINGS" (by Paul of Tarsus), will always be beyond our current understanding. This article, as it is to this point [2], was an attempt, with occasional help of other editors, from someone who have long been a keen ecletic student of his works and the article was the best I was able. Before attempting any edition, please give an opportunity to yourself to study the following brief words from the author: A Word to the Wise. Thank you. Regards, Adiós ;) --Viriathus 07:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
  1. ^  « It is not what we give but what we share that counts. Those who give only of abundance, of the things that they have no need of--the things that are really a burden to them, the things that they do not miss at all--do not know what giving is. "The gift without the giver is bare." That is the point: unless we give ourselves, our gifts are barren. "Greater love hath no man that this, that a man lay down his life for his friend." This is not a single act of laying down the life for a friend, but it is constant daily self-sacrifice. "I was hungry and ye gave me to eat; I was thirsty and ye gave me to drink . . . I was sick and ye visited me." That is the only requisite. May we learn it, friends. Neither need we seek far: it is right here. » in a Lecture, 1913

[edit] Needs Rewrite / Sections Plagiarized

The flowery language is npov and un-encyclopedic and the reason the prose reads so purplish is that much of this is cut and pasted from Manly P. Hall's fawning introduction to "Blavatsky and the Secret Doctrine." Early Infancy, for example, is the same, down to punctuation. It needs a major overhaul. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Typing monkey (talk • contribs) 17:23, August 21, 2007 (UTC).