Talk:Maurice Strong
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[edit] Citing "Paranoid Fantasies"??
Maurice Strong article needs to be edited for biased point of view, (npov lacking), against paranoid fantasies of conspiracy theorists. I would reword the sentence to be less offensive to followers of his well-documented escapades and cite the editor of a firmly established publication,Western Standard, or this article I found [1], just based on my quick searches to date. The effect of the original statement aims to discredit anyone who might be suspicious of the intentions of a clearly rich and powerful man by citing only some gun-toting survivalist militias. I admit to being a newbie, but given time, this could be much more objective and less like an advertisement. I only just now became a Wikipede (or whatever?) because all I've found in my research of this man is largely biased one way or another. Thorough research of this man and his "achievements" is WP:FA material, of that I am sure. The article makes it sound like he was actually competent and noteworthy at the posts that he's held. Whereas, for example, the Ontario Hydro cited was run into the ground in a debacle more resembling Enron. And his involvement in that specifically? Well that is part of what I was researching in the first place.--RJT197* 07:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 23:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Users Fred Bauder and Stephen Buxton, please stop using Wikipedia as forum for conspiracies. Wikipedia's value lies in the fact that it is neutral, a repository for facts and figures not for malicious gossip. Please stick to the known facts and figures about Maurice Strong (limited as they may be), and do not use Wikipedia as a platform for political polemics and ad hominem attacks.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.84.246 (talk) 00:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- The new article is nothing less than a hagliography. Applications for sainthood should be submitted to the Pope, after death. Wikipedia is an inappropriate venue. Fred Bauder (talk) 17:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Maurice Strong page redone
Following the above comments this page on Maurice Strong has been re-done. The earlier article, which has been reported for "disinformation" has been totally and completely revised and edited by user Dondesnet, to reflect the magnitude of the work done by Maurice Strong, both in the industrialised and developing countries, and for the global environmental movement. comment added by Dondesnet (talk • contribs) 17:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unsourced information
This passage:
"Returning to private life, he acquired effective control and became Chairman of AZL Resources Inc., which had large holdings of ranch lands in the United States, including a major land development in the San Luis Valley of Colorado. This was underlain by one of the country’s largest underground water reservoirs, which, under Colorado law, others could claim if the landowners failed to develop or use it. Accordingly, Strong instituted a program through a company, American Water Development, to develop the property on a sustainable basis and use it locally. When his partners opted for an alternative plan to export the water from the valley, Strong donated his interest to charity."
is unsourced. Please provide a source for the information which it contains. It is generally known that Strong acquired control of AZL, that it owned the Baca Grande land development, and that, together with friends from the environmental movement, created American Water Development and that there is a great reserve of underground water in the San Luis Basin. However, I don't know of any source for the assertions regarding Colorado Water Law, although, perhaps that is what Strong believed. If that is true, please find a reliable source which demonstrates that. In fact, American Water Development, I believe, had to pay the objectors legal fees due to the failure of the corporation to demonstrate facts which would support its application. Regarding Strong's alleged change of mind. While I do not recall it, either from memory, or from the discovery in the case, if he did have such an epiphany, a reliable source is needed. Fred Bauder (talk) 17:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- This passage, "to develop the property on a sustainable basis and use it locally." seems rather farfetched. I don't recall any public statement from him at the time, nor I imagine any source for it. If he had such views, please document them by citing a reliable source. Fred Bauder (talk) 17:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Order of Canada (Companion).png
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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bias Tag
I added the bias tag after see the article and determining that it is written from a non-NPOV and needs a major overhaul. Section titles like "Early years: overcoming poverty and hardship" are not appropriate as is the use of images such as [[Image:Flag_of_the_United_Nations.svg]] and [[Image:UnemployedMarch.jpg]] . 203.20.35.28 (talk) 19:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Concern about the Bias Tag
I am also a newbie and concerned about the constant attacks and harassment of this individual. This is my first post. To me the article is not biased. The revised article gives a full objective account of Maurice Strong and the impact that he has had throughout the world. The earlier article written about him would have put a smile on Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels. As I understand it, the revised article was written as the earlier article was reported for disinformation. The Section titles like "Early years: overcoming poverty and hardship" are extremely appropriate for the article as it gives a background to the upbringing of Maurice Strong, important in understanding his concerns about poverty and the environment. The use of the logos are also apt. Maurice Strong was a senior official of the UN. It was under him that the UNEP logo was created. Thus the call for the article to be reviewed for neutrality is superficial. Wikiepedia is a democratic communication tool, which has to be used with responsibility. --Jomoken (talk) 14:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sainthood??
I'm not really all that interested in Maurice Strong; I just looked him up after seeing his name. After reading the discussion page, it sounds like this article has shifted from a conspiracy theorist bulletin board to an application for sainthood. I think somebody needs to tone down the awestricken worship factor. I went back and read a few other biographies on wiki and by comparison this one is almost nauseatingly sweet. Anyone that wields as much economic and political power as him deserves a little more scrutiny into their business dealings and ideology.Mrkf650 (talk) 16:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)mrkf650
