User talk:MatthewVanitas

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Contents 1 Knife articles 2 Washtub bass 3 Category:String instruments 4 Bagpipes 5 Smile! 6 Arabic bagpipes 7 Sources 8 The stick instrument category 9 Category:Antique instruments 10 Bagpipe removals 11 Sea Shepherd 12 Other dulcimer-type instruments 13 Never made 14 Fasta (Frisian) 15 Islam category

[edit] Knife articles

Good work on the knife articles! Let me know if you need any help. I've been considering starting a Wikiproject devoted to cutlery.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 04:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Matthew,

Major cleanup, is what I'd like to see happen. It looks like you've been doing a great job on that by the way. Even though I'm a long-time collector I've gotten involved with the knife articles mostly by accident. I got involved with Microtech Knives when it was threatened with deletion. The same with the Strider Knives and Ernest Emerson articles. The others through the military project, etc. I got involved with the Sebenza and Spyderco pieces through them being linked to other articles. I guess my thought is to "improve what is already there" before creating new ones.

My primary areas of knowledge are with custom tacticals (there is no Tactical Knife article, yet...someday, though), US military blades and blade steels. As far as contributing to articles, I can do the sourcing and contribute somewhat to improving the prose. I mostly write about topics concerning reptiles, guns, and the Catholic Church.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 18:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Washtub bass

The washtub bass isn't always a monochord. Take a look through some washtub bass sites (or even our own article) and you'll see that they sometimes have more than one string. Badagnani (talk) 07:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

We can work on it. Some of the remaining "problem" instruments are ones that could be "either this or that," which causes problems. Badagnani (talk) 07:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a member of the instruments project and don't follow it closely (though obviously I help out when I see there's a need, as I make and maintain a lot of world instrument articles). The number of instrument articles on WP is getting out of hand and that makes the lists of instruments particularly hard to maintain. Badagnani (talk) 07:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:String instruments

OK, the remaining instruments at Category:String instruments are the hard ones. I think we'll eventually need a Category:Lira family instruments for the remaining Renaissance/Baroque instruments in that family, but some of the other very obscure world insts. for which we have no photos and only sketchy descriptions are a bit difficult. Badagnani (talk) 22:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Also the huqin-like instruments that are not from China (which are from Vietnam, Thailand, etc.) should be in a category; it doesn't seem right to include those under "huqin," as that's a Chinese word. Badagnani (talk) 22:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

We probably also need a cat for Violin family instruments (so that the viola can have a cat to belong to, along with the violins, cellos, and double basses). Badagnani (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bagpipes

Many of the bagpipes are very obscure, with little sourcing, and possibly only a handful of people still play them. I think the biggest problem is listing bagpipes that are essentially the same in construction under two or more different names. Another issue is listing instruments that don't have a bag as bagpipes, though one explanation about this is that cultures around the world are often sketchy or inaccurate in their own terminology about bagpipes, using words meaning "flute" or "oboe" to apply to bagpipes, or sometimes to all of these things. Also, some cultures seem to use the exact same name for their double reed shawms (without bag) or cylindrical-bored pipes (without bag) as for their bagpipes. I think it might be good to get photos of all of them and do something with photos like List of pasta or List of chili peppers. Badagnani (talk) 22:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smile!

[edit] Arabic bagpipes

Those are all good questions. The spelling came from kind folks at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Arab_world. The use of italics for Arabic is something the WPARAB people usually do, just because Arabic displays so small on WP, just as a way of making it more visible. I don't know the answer about the ghaita but you may be right. Arabic ghaita apparently comes from the Gothic "gait," meaning "goat," so probably when the shawm was introduced to Morocco it was called something else, like zamr, and it adopted the (wrong) name ghaita (bagpipe) over time, which had come down into North Africa from Spain. All of this is very hard to source, and the scholars who assert this don't explain how they know this when asked (I've tried). Badagnani (talk) 17:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

There are not "zero sources". More. The JSTOR article is particularly good. Badagnani (talk) 20:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The stick instrument category

I had to undo your sub-category thingy on the megatar site. I didnt do anything to the category of course, even thou i disagree with the name of it. The makers of the Stick, if you know anything about the history of their and later tapping instrument, would probably strongly oppose to calling the megatar a "stick instrument". And they would be very right, IMO. It would be better to have a plain two handed tapping category that then would include earlier two handed tapping instruments like the touchguitar.

User:GaryOpenhill (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Antique instruments

Hey there -- If you're interested, the CFR for Category:Antique instruments is probably about to be relisted for further discussion. But it seems that you forgot to post the CFR notice on the category page, so the whole thing would be for naught unless that gets taken care of. And you might also want to respond to some of the comments that have been made in your absence. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 23:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bagpipe removals

I would move removed text to the talk page so those statements can be evaluated and debunked, if necessary. Some wrong statements that are "out there" (such as the two sculptures found in British digs, that were formerly believed to be representations of bagpipers from the Roman era) can and probably should be debunked in the article. Badagnani (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sea Shepherd

I have removed the new category "Terrorism in Iceland" from Sea Shepherd. Please be a bit more careful with that kind of thing in future. We can't just add disparaging categorisations to an article without strong reliable sources. Sea Shepherd clearly don't fit any of the common definitions of terrorism, since they commit no violence against people (and don't try to spread terror). Some governments have tried to characterise them as terrorists, but since it should be very hard for a high-profile terror organisation to get a Dutch flag for their ship we can safely assume that this was just rhetorics. If you think otherwise you will need exceptionally strong sources. I am basing this on common sense and WP:V. I will look if there is anything more specific. --Hans Adler (talk) 10:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC) PS: There may not be a policy about this, but Arbcom has ruled about a similar case, see Category talk:Pseudoscience. --Hans Adler (talk) 11:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

When you moved Terrorism in Iceland to 1986 Hvalur sinkings, a redirect was created. I have started a deletion discussion for this redirect, because it is another case of libel. So far as I know there was never any terrorism in Iceland, and in fact rarely anything very interesting happens there. So it is no wonder part of the media used somewhat extreme language. This is no excuse to describe acts by living people as terrorism when they are not. Being branded as a terrorist, even innocently, can have serious consequences nowadays. I also had to remove the category Category:Terrorism in Iceland from the article for the same reason. I have not removed the category Category:Eco-terrorism, because the word Eco-terrorism has been defined much wider, presumably because otherwise it would describe something virtually non-existent. --Hans Adler (talk) 18:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other dulcimer-type instruments

Have I got them all here? Badagnani (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Never made

Jervis Bay Nuclear Power Plant was a proposed nuclear power reactor in the Jervis Bay Territory on the south coast of New South Wales. It would have been Australia's first nuclear power plant, and was the only proposal to have received serious consideration as of 2007. Some environmental studies and site works were completed, and two rounds of tenders were called and evaluated, but the Australian government decided not to proceed with the project. so adding it is a bit um - sort giving something to something that never existed in the end perhaps? SatuSuro 05:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fasta (Frisian)

I see you added category Mythology to this non-existent 'Fasta', as the book is a 19th century hoax, I don't think it qualifies as mythology, and have removed the mythology category and added. I hope you don't mind.--Doug Weller (talk) 17:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Islam category

Hi Matthew. In the Islam category, we are trying to reduce the number of articles that appear on the main category page. If you could therefore remove the Islam cat from At-Tawba 29, Imran (father of Maryam) and Islamic view of Ishmael, that would be very much appreciated. Thanks. MP ^{(talk•contribs)} 19:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)