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Hi Mattbrundage, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contributions to the coolest online encyclopedia I know of =). I sure hope you stick around; we're always in need of more people to create new articles and improve the ones we already have. You'll probably find it easiest to start with a tutorial of how the wikipedia works, and you can test stuff for yourself in the sandbox. When you're contributing, you'll probably find the manual of style to be helpful, and you'll also want to remember a couple important guidelines. First, write from a neutral point of view, second, be bold in editing pages, and third, use wikiquette. Those are probably the most important ones, and you can take a look at some others at the policies and guidelines page. You might also be interested in how to write a great article and possibly adding some images to your articles.

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Again, welcome! It's great to have you. Happy editing! --Spangineer (háblame) 17:16, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Free

Great edit sorry about my grammer i am only 13 just love 70s music tks alot ;-)

[edit] Category Pop Albums

Hi. I am sure you are right about removing the category - but imagine I am dumb and explain to me in plain words why Tarkan's Come Closer album shouldn't be in the pop album category? Deff6 04:53, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help and clearing things up for me! Much appreciated. Deff6 07:16, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Schism

There is a category (which I belong to) called "Roman Catholic Wikipedians". I was wondering if you'd switch to that one, because in my eyes that is the main Catholic Category. It has dozens of users which just don't appear under the Catholic Wikipedians Category. Chooserr 21:48, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lee Mroszak (Crazy Cabbie)

I was happy to work on it. I was afraid I was going to get flak for moving the page from Crazy Cabbie to Lee Mroszak but I thought it was more in line with Wikipedia's policies. I goofed on Craig Gass' page today (I thought he did Evil Dave Letterman) and screw ups usually come in multiples for me. -wadems 05:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting Wild Dances

Can you explain to me why you performed this edit [1]? The article is about one song, as far as I can tell..what is your reason to split?Image:Weather rain.pngSoothingR 10:01, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Although the article mentions the existence of the album, , it doesn't state anything about it. The whole article is on the song. There is simply nothing which could be put in this album-article.Image:Weather rain.pngSoothingR 16:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Renaming it is unnecessary for the time being..Although, taking out the Pop albums-category is definetely a good idea.Image:Weather rain.pngSoothingR 16:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] minor grammar revert

On the Raft of Dead Monkeys article you changed "Raft of Dead Monkeys was a rock band" to "Raft of Dead Monkeys were a rock band". At first glance it seems like an apropriate grammar edit, but the name of the band is still a singular clause. I hope you don't mind if I change it back, and let me know if you still think I'm wrong. Thanks for the other edits and additions.

I was using British English when referring to the band name with a plural verb. American English, however, would use the singluar in this context. So both of us are correct. Mattbrundage 15:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] a mistake edit

Please realize I made a mistake in my editing and I apologize [2]. I am not out to get you and I did not mean offense. Please try to assume good faith on Wikipedia. Also, there's a policy on Wikipedia called WP:CIVIL. Please read this. - Image:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 04:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion process

Hello Matt! Are you confused? I ask because I got terribly confused myself about your nomination of the article The Wives at Articles for Deletion.

You tagged it for speedy delete and then sent it to Articles for Deletion as well. Just one needs to be done.

You also tagged it for clean-up. But if it can be cleaned up, then it isn't suitable for speedy deletion. (Generally).

In this case, you were right: it was a speedy delete (IMHO), and I speedily deleted it for you.

Your addition of it to AfD was also malformed: I'm guessing that you went to the foot of today's page, clicked [Edit] on the nomination at the bottom and added your nomination at the foot of that. It didn't work - it just broke the page. What you should have done is followed the instructions here - which includes a nice link to click on that lets you list things in the right place with one click (once you've followed the labourious other steps, of course...).

Have a read of the links in this message and you'll soon be up to speed. Don't worry about the mix-up: if you lined all of mine up end-to-end you'd have... well, the list would be horribly long, that's all I can say. :o) ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 21:09, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Pi digit" userbox

Hi, I just had to rename the "Pi" userbox template to "Pi digits" (your 170 digits' memorization). Hence, I stopped by your user-page and amended the user-box list, to set right the change. Thanks. ImpuMozhi 20:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Album Genres

I believe in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums it says organise albums bt genre, so why are you going around removing albums from genres they belong in? Jubella 21:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Jubella

This excerpt from WikiProject_Albums#Categories explains it best: Category:Slayer albums is a sub-category of Category:Albums by artist and Category:Thrash metal albums, which is a sub-category of Category:Albums by genre. So, from top level to bottom level, it goes:
1. Category:Albums by genre → 2. Category:Thrash metal albums → 3. Category:Slayer albums → 4. Reign in Blood
1. Category:Albums by artist → 2. Category:Slayer albums → 3. Reign in Blood
In the first list, Reign in Blood does not go directly in Category:Thrash metal albums, but is there via the intermediate category Category:Slayer albums.
The coding example at WikiProject_Albums#Categories did not include the category Category:Thrash metal albums. It simply had Category:Slayer albums and Category:1986 albums. Also, note that Category:Slayer albums contains the category Category:Thrash metal albums, as it should.
From a maintenance perspective, placing album genre categories such as Category:Rock albums directly in artist album categories (such as Category:Oasis albums) makes sense and is standard protocol. It would be redundant to place Category:Rock albums in Definitely Maybe when it already exists in Category:Oasis albums. In a way, when you place Definitely Maybe in Category:Oasis albums, you are indirectly categorizing it as Category:Rock albums.
I hope this clears things up again. Sorry I had to revert some of your work. I do appreciate the other contributions that you've been making. ;-) Mattbrundage 05:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Peter_Hammill_albums

I see you've made some changes to Category:Peter_Hammill_albums. Fine, but why, in the categories above it, is the name listed as "Hammill, The"? Shouldn't it be "Hammill, Peter"?

Thanks for correcting the typos. One more question on this whole categories thing, if I may: what if an artist makes albums in more than one genre? For example, the early work of Current 93 is industrial, while their later work is apocalyptic folk. Would it be appropriate for there to be both "albums by genre→industrial albums→Current 93 albums→[album title]" and "albums by genre→apocalyptic folk albums→Current 93 albums→[album title]"? Thanks. -Richardrj 05:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it would be appropriate. Many bands are listed as being in multiple genres, for example, Category:Beck albums (alternative rock and folk) or Category:The Beatles albums (rock and pop). I've seen some albums categories with as many as four music genres. Mattbrundage 12:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nature of the beast edits

Hi, I saw you edited the article on April Wines album (Nature of the neast). I was wondering why you removed the section about where the band recorded the album. It wasn't clear in your edit summary. The information is correct according to the bands official discography. Cheers  Errant  talk(formerly tmorton166) 11:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies I see you actually added it back in. My mistake -- Errant  talk(formerly tmorton166) 11:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tim Walsh (musician)

Hi Matt, guess I stole one of your "To Do" list items in Tim's page - hope you don't mind. Been following him for years (known him since his Massachusetts days). Doc502 15:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] The Day Has Come for you to change the disambiguation page

Hey, this is Free-encyclopedia. On the page for the Cheyenne Kimball album "The Day Has Come," you put it into the category of "Cheyenne Kimball albums." However, that is the only one she has released, and probably the only one she will release for at least a year. So I think, until her second album comes out, that category should be deleted. I'm not going to delete it myself, because I wanted to run it by you first.

By the way, respond to this on my talk page, not yours. I won't even remember your username, but I'll be checking mine. Thanks. Free-encyclopedia 01:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC) 01:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Over My Head (Cable Car)

Hi there. Why did you move "Over My Head (Cable Car)" to "Over My Head (Cable Car song)"? It's an MoS naming violation and makes the title more complex than it needs to be. Teemu08 04:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] The Day Has Passed - yesterday, that is, when I sent the original message

Yes, it does clear things up. Thanks.

By the way, I noticed that the message above this one references a change you made on the "Over My Head (Cable Car)" article. Interestingly, the most recent change I made (other than writing yesterday's message to you) was on that article. I changed the "Over My Head (disambiguation)" article to make it a redirect to the song by The Fray. Within a day, it was changed. I was wondering if you made a similar change because you checked my history or something, or whether it was just coincidence.Free-encyclopedia 18:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Island Records discography

Why clean up? This is a discography, maybe not the typical entry to an enzyclopedia but in this format very useful, more than many lists. Please exlain me either here or on my discussion page. --Reinhard P. Braun 22:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Article clean up/POV

Hi MAttbrundage: I noticed you did some work on the Elkie Brooks page, on the 24th April. A red 'Elkwiki' is credited on the history with the life and career text (whois Elkwiki?) which I've cleaned up by removing a number of POV statements. I'm not sure what the Wikipedia term for uncredited statements and attributes such as "considered one of the greatest female vocalists blah blah" is but that's the sort of thing I edited out. I'm just a fan who may happen to agree with the superlatives but wishes that contributors wouldn't ignore the protocol on 'unenclyclopaedic' or whatever its deemed. Anyway, if you would take a look sometime, please, I'd be grateful to know whether or not I did the right thing. I'll edit errors of spelling or grammar when I see them but content is somewhat different... Ta Plutonium27 16:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Removing uncredited statements is sometimes okay -- it's something one has to consider on an article-by-article basis. As an alternative, you can insert {{fact}} after any uncredited statement. Or, you can insert {{weasel word}} after any claim that uses Weasel words. -- Mattbrundage 16:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Balloon Farm

I hope I saved this from deletion. It'll never be a lengthy article, but The Balloon Farm was an interesting one-hit wonder, including Bruce Springsteen's first manager as a member and Melanie's future husband as producer. And somehow, one of their outtakes made it to Australia and became a hit there for another artist. Cheemo 07:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits. The article now appears to meet notability guidelines. I'll remove the tag. -- Mattbrundage 12:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome. Cheemo 19:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dan Baird

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[edit] Dionne Warwick albums

Hi, Matt: I noticed that you edited my Dionne Warwick album pages, replacing "was" with "is". I have reverted the diction to the original, considering that (a) none of Warwick's Scepter albums are current; (b) Scepter Records is not in existence anymore; and (c) the albums have long been off the charts. Your edit is confusing to the flow of the original synopses; saying that the album "is" gives the impression that the album is current, and the youngest of these albums is over 35 years old. Respectfully submitted.. Dma124 03:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Imagine that you are holding in your hands a copy of Warwick's Make Way for Dionne Warwick and you are asked to describe it. You would most likely not begin with "This was...", but with "This is..." I actually own a couple of old Warwick albums and would definitely describe them in the present tense.
The age of a published work or object should not be the determinant of the tense used to describe it. For instance, For Whom the Bell Tolls, Rome, The Bible, even Stonehenge are all described in the present tense, despite all being older than Warwick's albums.
A better determinant of tense would be whether or not something or someone is still in existence. Albums in general (like many other objects) will exist in perpetuity and should be described in the present tense. Conversely, historical objects and people that no longer exist should be described in the past tense.
One more small thing... I noticed that in the first sentence of your note, you referred to the album pages as your own. -- Mattbrundage 14:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Matt: Thanks for getting back with me. Now that you have shown that the albums are definitely in existence, I can understand why you made the changes you did. However, I still think it's confusing to say "Make Way For Dionne Warwick" IS Dionne Warwick's third album for Scepter Records, when the album is over 40 years old.
Additionally, I referred to the album pages as mine, because I originally wrote most of them, with a few exceptions. Most of Dionne's Scepter albums were not mentioned on Wikipedia, so I created the synopses for all to enjoy and edit if necessary. I have all of Dionne's albums and hope to have pages for each album completed soon.
Have a great day!Dma124 15:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category:Panic! at the Disco albums

I notice that you're the creator of the category in question, Mattbrundage. I'm nominating the category for a rename, and I hope you don't mind me doing so; I'm/I've proposed that it be renamed Category:Panic at the Disco albums (in light of the band's decision to rename itself, or to reassert their name as "Panic at the Disco"). If you have any qualms with this, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Qwerty (talk) 15:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again. Qwerty (talk) 15:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Whence

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[edit] Billboard 200 list 1993-'94

Hello Matt! My name is Louis and I'm a wiki contributor for some years now. I'm really into editing music-related articles and as a result of Google searching I came across your home page here [[3] and I was wondering where did you get the info. Is it referable enough for Wikipedia because I would really need that. Thanks in advance. Lajbi Holla @ me 20:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Undoing Redirects

I was wondering, since you did not specify a reason in your edit summaries, if you could explain your recent wholesale reversions of my edits. Wikipedia's notability guideline for albums reads, in part : "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article " and that is what I did. Beeblbrox (talk) 03:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC) This talk page is becoming very long. Please consider archiving. Beeblbrox (talk) 03:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's notability guideline for albums also states in part, In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia. The problem with your edits is that -- by converting the eight perfectly good articles to redirects -- you essentially deleted the articles and threw off scores of links. If you had actually merged the information into a separate Pedro the Lion discography page, or had started a discussion on the Pedro the Lion talk page about it, that would have been a different story. Fire a warning shot next time. -- Mattbrundage (talk) 13:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)