User talk:Matt N
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Hello, Matt N, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Newcomers help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}}
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- You seem to be pretty new. Here's a good link for dealing with persistent vandalism: Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. One of the pertinent things it that the user be notified on their talk page (even for IPs). Be careful of the three-revert rule as well. Also, Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot might be helpful. --Christopherlin 22:10, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the pointers. Will keep cool. Matt N 22:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Insulting other users (anonymous or not) is not keeping your cool. Dstanfor 05:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Yeah, please be nice (no matter how tempting!): Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers, Wikipedia:Do not insult the vandals, Wikipedia:What is a troll, and Wikipedia:No personal attacks are some helpful guidelines. Perhaps going to Admin. intervention against vandalism or request for semi-protection. --Christopherlin 06:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Sorry, don't know my own strength sometimes. Matt N 06:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Have you read Wikipedia:No personal attacks? Attacks on Matthew N. Sharp, and on anonymous users are included in this. Dstanfor 21:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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- My commentary on Sharp is not at all a "personal attack" and is simply a reflection of his own words. Sharp's years-old and highly negative internet presence is there for anyone to see via Google, USENET, his own blog, and XeniSucks. I agree with you however that I have made one attack on an anonymous user when I called him "fat" so that much I am guilty of. Matt N 22:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Read it again. Posting someone's full name, and several variants thereof, is a personal attack. Posting someone's employer is a personal attack. Posting information about someone's usenet and google history is a personal attack. Calling someone a "brooding, dark, malevolent, hateful, insulting, insidious man who wishes ill on most of the human race" is a personal attack. It doesn't matter if it's true! It's a personal attack, and it has no place in any article or on any talk page. Period. Front243 14:38, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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Please refrain from edit warring and watch yourself on Wikipedia:Three-revert rule. --Christopherlin 21:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Xeni Jardin
- Are you saying that shy, unsuccessful and mal-adjusted people are not allowed to contribute to Wikipedia then?--Gerardm 22:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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- No, I do not believe that is what I have said or implied at all, as should be crystal clear when reading my user page. I will repeat it here again: "...you will rarely find confident, successful or well-adjusted individuals that will attack a person the way Jardin's attackers have attacked her." This statement should suffice to cover similar kinds of attacks (i.e., Xenisucks) made on anyone, anywhere, whether via Wiki, on the web, or on the fifth moon of Saturn (nice place, by the way; you should see it). Just so you know, "lacking confidence" does not make one "shy". I know a number of very shy men and women who are powerfully confident and extremely successful. Shyness is often the mark of humility, and not weakness. Matt N 01:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I am on of those people who doesn't like Jardin's writing style or self-promotion on Boing Boing. I don't hate her, but I do find her contributions rather annoying and too self-promoting. I read BB through an RSS feed that now filters her contributions out because of this. I would rather not read her, and I do find xenisucks.com to be funnier than truly insulting. But I'm not a low-confidence hater of her by any means.
- However, I am firmly dedicated to NPOV on Wikipedia, so I make every effort to ensure my edits reflect that. By the same token, I hope that all editors of that page who like and support her will make the same effort to maintain NPOV. Cheers, Kickstart70ยทTalk 18:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I do not believe that is what I have said or implied at all, as should be crystal clear when reading my user page. I will repeat it here again: "...you will rarely find confident, successful or well-adjusted individuals that will attack a person the way Jardin's attackers have attacked her." This statement should suffice to cover similar kinds of attacks (i.e., Xenisucks) made on anyone, anywhere, whether via Wiki, on the web, or on the fifth moon of Saturn (nice place, by the way; you should see it). Just so you know, "lacking confidence" does not make one "shy". I know a number of very shy men and women who are powerfully confident and extremely successful. Shyness is often the mark of humility, and not weakness. Matt N 01:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Finding her annoying and hating her are two different things entirely. Everyone is free to like or dislike what they will but when hate is involved, there are problems, usually with the person who is doing the hating and not with the object of their obsession. I believe my Jardin edits have been very reaonable especially considering that I added the XeniSucks link back when I was formerly very opposed. Matt N 15:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, I have no problems with your edits. My point is for clarification, not criticism. I just didn't want to be lumped in with the rest. --Kickstart70-T-C 15:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Finding her annoying and hating her are two different things entirely. Everyone is free to like or dislike what they will but when hate is involved, there are problems, usually with the person who is doing the hating and not with the object of their obsession. I believe my Jardin edits have been very reaonable especially considering that I added the XeniSucks link back when I was formerly very opposed. Matt N 15:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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