User talk:MatriX/Archive 3

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Hello, MatriX/Archive 3, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Hi, I noticed you're from Macedonia. I'm from nearby and both our names end in "X", I just couldn't resist welcoming you ;-) Mirupafshim! --NikX 16:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Response

You are welcome:)! Now I need your vote:). Could you please give me your vote here [[1]]. Thanx. Luka Jačov 17:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Одговор

Нема гајле, гласав за опција што мене ми се виде најдобра :) Него, активен си на македонската википедија? Ни треба помош таму... --Misos 17:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Ни требаат повеќе уредници. Ако го видиш бројот на статии (5.300), далеку сме позади другите енциклопедии. Секоја статија се брои :) Ѕирни го порталот, планираме средба за утре вечер. Ако си од Скопје и можеш да дојдеш, би било супер. --Misos 18:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University

Thanks for the link, unfortunately all the post-grad stuff is under construction :( If you hear about them doing anything to do with Machine translation let me know though! :) - FrancisTyers 19:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Pozdrav

I wouldn't say that I contriubute mostly Serbian articles. My expertise is South Slavic & Balkan in general. You'll notice that most of my-made articles (read the list on my user page and find anything you like, please; I think that you will especially like Duklja; it bears mentions of Slavs from Macedonia). I'm the maker of the History section on Croats, as well as some history of Croatia, but my greatest contributions is the medieval history of Bosnia and Herzegovina and it's rulers, and even more Montenegro. Cheers! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Поздрав

Здраво. Да, во право си - не бев многу на Википедија овие два дена, бидејќи бев на ,,факултетско" патување низ Македонијава наша. А Ти што се реши за промена во имиџов? Можеш ли да ми пишеш што се случуваше овие денови? Bomac 12:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Во право си за монотониот разговор со нашиве пријатели (ако може така да се кажат)... Bomac 18:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Many thanks for your vote on my recent RFA, which passed narrowly. I will try to be worthy of your support. Regards, Kaisershatner 21:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Macedonian Orthodox Church. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Telex 10:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I fail to see what the problem is. Could you be more specific? - FrancisTyers 11:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Do you have any non-Macedonian sources for that ? - FrancisTyers 12:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
As far as I'm aware, pretty much anyone can found a church. - FrancisTyers 13:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

... me too :-) Telex 13:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi here too. I guess I owe you a beer! About Mk-Lang, Francis had requested to remove his additions, so that his teachers don't see them in a public site and accuse him of plagiarising (himself!) in an essay he wrote. I have agreed to the map, and I'm sure Francis will add everything back after he gets his grade (see talk). Please rv yourself temporarily.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 15:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bitola

Look, I think we should work something out about the article on Bitola as only you and I seem to actually care about it ;-) What's troubling you, as I really can't understand. It took me ages to find those sources and they are only possibilities (the article itself says the origin of the name is unknown). Telex 21:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I really don't understand your problem with mentioning non Slavic origins of the name. User:Makedonas lives in Kozani and has no problem in mentioning the Slavic origins of that name in the relevant article (koza = goat). Telex 22:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I have reverted to Telex, if you are concerned that the information can only be found in books, I suggest you contact your local library. I have attempted to merge in your changes (in the form of the references you have added), but I may have missed something. Please do not remove sourced information. Who cares if the name is Albanian or whatever, surely its interesting to hear different theories of where it came from? - FrancisTyers 22:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
It's fine. Glad we worked it out :-) Telex 23:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, do you think you could survey Francis's new page Macedonia (terminology) and add your perspective. Thanks. Telex 11:41, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Macedonian language

My version:

  • The Slavs first came to the Balkan peninsula in the sixth and seventh centuries.

Your version:

  • Big Slav population shifted in the region in the sixth and seventh centuries.

Not only is your version unsourced, but it is also bad English. Unless you are prepared to find an academic quality reliable source and post it on the talk page, I'm going to keep my version. My spellings are perfectly valid English. - FrancisTyers 14:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for missing the "neighboring" and "gernerations". Your edit was a mixed bunch to be honest. "Conquerer" is a perfectly valid spelling. I repeat, your sentence does not make sense. Are you trying to say "The region saw large scale Slavic immigration in the sixth and seventh centuries"? Please make a distinction between spelling and grammar. Please bring up your problems with Macedonia (terminology) on its talk page and we will see if we can deal with it. - FrancisTyers 15:02, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I only wrote what I did because that is how it is presented in all the papers I have read. If you can find a good source for your version, or even my redaction of your version then I will happily include it :) - FrancisTyers 15:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Fascist Assembly for the National Liberation of Macedonia

Could you make an article, or even a stub on this, thanks :) I'd do it, but you can probably do a much better job, much quicker ;) - FrancisTyers 15:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :) - FrancisTyers 16:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ништо, повели и друг пат! ;-) Bomac 11:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User notice: temporary 3RR block

[edit] Regarding reversions[2] made on May 25, 2006 (UTC) to Macedonia

 You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

The duration of the block is 24 hours. William M. Connolley 13:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LOL

I can read you like a book [3] ;-) --Telex 18:24, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

LOL again ;-) I really think I'll go to User:FrancisTyers/Nationalist test and add to Macedonian nationalist "Albanian is official within our country". I'd think that's tickle Macedonian chauvinists more than what is currently written there now. --Telex 18:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goce Delchev

By the way did you notice the definition "Bulgarian revolutionary" above his picture on bg.wiki?  /FunkyFly.talk_   19:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pomos

Zdravo matrix,

te molam ako imas vreme i ako sakas, pomozi me na Stan Lazaridis toj e makedonec fudbaler od australija, jasno e deka e makedonec i deka toj samiot e svesen deka e makedonec, no ovie grci na wiki (kako normalno) odma idat so propaganda i go pravet Grk, a duri idat so 5 grcki useri taka da moram da imam i jas nekoja potpora. te molam i pozdrav! --Makedonia 20:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

ee super brat! za 99% posto e makedonec, toj e od voden i pocnal da igrat za makedonski klub, eden grk nikogas ne bi igral za nationalisticki makedonski klub, toa e veke najgolem dokaz. a i na stranata www.stirlinglions.com.au imat sliki od nego so makedoncite. dokaz imame i ako nemame toj pak e makedonec, samo mi trebit potpor poradi pravilata na "poveke od tri pati RV" ajde brat, pozdrav! --Makedonia 21:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

eve najdov izvor, dobiv e-mail od pretsedatelot na FK Stirling lions, toa go resivme, samo ako sakas pomozi vo slucaj tie ako pak ja menuvat stranicata, poradi three-revert rule pravilata. pozdrav--Makedonia 16:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you take a look at User talk:NikoSilver#Map and tell me if you think the map is accurate. Thanks. --Telex 14:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, it's been fixed. I made it primarily for my subpage of lesser known information ;-) --Telex 19:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POLL

No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the <ref> function.

Please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes#Poll!  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 21:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Am I dreaming or are we on the same side of a poll for once? :-)  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 10:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sigh

How is the naming dispute going to be solved if things like this keep happening (demonstrations and protests)? :-( Here are two pictures of the Greek Macedonian protests [4] [5]. Can you find any pictures of the protests in Skopje so we can link to them in the article. Hopefully, the troubles and bad feelings will be solved as soon as possible,so that we can look forward to a better Balkans. --Tēlex 15:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I never participated in demonstrations (I'm not from Macedonia, and haven't been to Macedonia for years). As far as I was concerned, it was another "so what?" scenario (yet another split from the Yugoslav mosaic, and like many others, loaded with controversy). If Greece had just accepted the constitutional name, Wikipedia would be a much better place, as half the edit warring wouldn't take place ;-) On the bright side, what has been achieved is that all the United Macedonia nonsense (just like the Greek Megali Idea and San Stefano Bulgaria dreams before it) has been sent to the fringes of politics, so if Greece decided to end the naming dispute tomorrow, the biggest problem has already been solved (irredentist symbols of Thessaloniki (on the currency) and Vergina (on the flag), as well as the old constitution are no longer used). --Tēlex 15:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The law

Remember, up until 1998 there was a law prohibiting the public expression of Bulgarian nationality in your country. Its abolishment also coincides with the flood of applications.   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] and another Poll...

Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 22:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)

Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Final 3RR warning

MatriX, you were already reported for 3RR the day before yesterday, and got away with it apparently only because no admin happened to be active at the time and the report became stale. Now I see you are again at it, again 3R within a few hours on one article and parallel reverts on several others. This is the final warning. Stop revert-warring against consensus in those articles. The 3RR is not an entitlement for a renewed number of 3 every 24 hours, so you may be blocked if you continue no matter whether it's today or tomorrow. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... yeah, well, that's just it: what I can see is that at least three editors agreed against you on the Kicevo page (LieutenantBoom, Khoikhoi and FunkyFly). That's one against three. Persisting to revert in such a situation is "editing against consensus" in my book. If you are faced with opposition like that, then reverting on and on is simply not the way to proceed. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Sigh... yeah, I can imagine it's frustrating to be forever in the position of having to guard a minority point of view. But that's life - if you're up against a majority of users disagreeing with you, you simply have to be more flexible in finding ways to convince them. By just reverting you're helping neither yourself nor the article nor, ultimately, the way your point of view is represented. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)