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[edit] Afghan (Australia)
Afghan (Australia) is about a historical group of people who aren't even necessarily from Afghanistan. A separate article needs to be created for modern Afghan Australians. --Ptcamn (talk) 22:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- This article is not about an ethnic group in the same way that the other articles under discussion are, so it doesn't fit into that naming pattern. What you're suggesting is redefining the article's scope in order to justify changing its name. There's no need for either. --Ptcamn (talk) 22:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Heheh
The first time anybody has seen or first time as long as i can remember has acknowledged that on the talk page of mine - for that I'll look a little closer now that am 3 :) (yrs on that is) SatuSuro 07:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Hungarian
Wot no hungarians? There lies the problem that I have with numerics alone - no hungarians on the ethnic template - yet - SatuSuro 01:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
reverted self - unnecessary details and info have started tagging the categories chaotically SatuSuro 03:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Talk:John Howard
I changed "Rudd" in your comment to "Ruddock" as follows:
Itis not clear to me whether these changes were to do with Howard's views or Ruddock's views or another's views or even Cabinet views
I hope this is okay. --Surturz (talk) 02:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Stalemate?
I share your disappointment that the RfM did not proceed. I do not see edit warring going on though. I am actually very impressed with the conduct on the talk page (and of article edits) of those editors who are still around discussing the issues. While the conversation does not feel as though it is progressing very fast I believe it is progressing. I seriously do believe that some of the way out is to have an article on the Howard Government and for some of the comments that people seek to include in the Howard article to be included in the more relevant articles on the topic - eg Immigration to Australia. Regards --Matilda talk 21:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not so optimistic about the present talk page situation. The current truce is purely because the "inclusionists" were not prepared to edit war more than the "exclusionists". If the content was re-inserted, for example the full Obama quote, then the edit war would be on again for young and old. This is not to say that either version of the content is correct or incorrect. But the process was decided by edit waring. It was not decided by community consensus, which disenfranchises many editors. You may have noticed that most of the people originally debating in favour of inclusion have now walked away. The aim should be to abide by a community consensus, which the RfM would have achieved. For example, if we abide by consensus, in the future there will be new content and new controversies and issues cropping up that we have an opinion about, and sometimes the community consensus will be aligned to what we personally think, and sometimes it won't. We will win some, and then we will lose some content disputes. But for the past 2 years, the political content surrounding John Howard in particular, and things related to John Howard policy, has been characterised by edit waring, not consensus. Regards, Lester 22:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I personally find your comment decided by edit waring, which is a completely unacceptable situation. I'm fed up with the censorship that's been going on, and rogue editors who would prefer to fight it out in a deletion war, like dogs over a scrap of meat, than to put it through the proper community process to gain consensus insulting. I do not like being accused of edit warring. I don't believe it is a practice I engage in. I am not engaged in a deletion war. I am prepared to engage in community processes and I ma prepared to discuss on the talk page for as long as it takes. So are quite a lot of others. Your comments are tedious and ill-judged as well as being insulting.Matilda talk 04:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please point me to To generalise, some editors feel it is fine to resolve content disputes by deleting newly added and referenced content seconds after it was added.--Matilda talk 01:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Hi Matilda. I'm not sure what you mean by "point me to". Do you mean "show me examples of where this rapid deleting has occurred"? I thought it was common knowledge that for the past couple of years or so the Howard article (and related articles) have been subject to rapid repeated deleting of newly added content. Did you want to be pointed to the History of the article where this has occurred? I'm also not referring to you in regards to deletions or incivility, and will point that out publicly on the article discussion page if you wish. Lester 01:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I'd call these edits from the past day uncivil: #1, #2, #3. However in hindsight, after reading your post I agree with you that it was probably a pointless exercise to call for a behaviour change on the article talk page. The problems have been going on for years, and I guess the failure of the RfM concentrated my frustration by destroying a means to end it. The incivility continues. The Obama dispute has not been resolved, as we know the present state has only been reached by rapidly reverting the opposition. If any editor goes in and reverts the Obama content back to its original longer form, then we both know the rapid revert war would begin again. I've had enough of it. I look back though the contribution history of the article and see so many editors who were past involved in the article, who no longer go there. The reason given is because of the raging disputes. Even editors who were actively participating 3 weeks ago are staying away 'cause they think the issue may explode at any time and don't want to be associated. Also interesting that some of the main revert and incivility participants are now lying low for some reason. I think it's necessary for the article conduct to change before the article is open for everyone to participate in content changes. My belief is that things desperately need to change regarding conduct at the JH article. I have failed to solve anything with RfC. I have failed 3 times with RfM. I was silly today to think I could achieve an agreement to stop the incivility and rapid reverts. So the conduct situation is like a big elephant in the room that is too big to sweep under the carpet and pretend it's not there. What do you think? Do you think things need to change? How do you think all this can be resolved?--Lester 01:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Macedonians in Australia
hi, thats alright i will add citations there is a very good book Peter Hill- The Macedonians in Australia which i have a copy of and it gives a lot of information on the minority. If you could find out any other sources about macedonians in australia could you please let me know? Thanx. PMK1 (talk) 22:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- hi again, if you noticed i have been adding more information to the article. I have many personal sources eg. Street Directories, Books, Pamphlets etc. all from the community which i will be using on the article. If you know anything please add you information. Also if the page is badly layed out feel free to Make the layout better. Thanks again. PMK1 (talk) 08:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Thats cool. With the List is it alrite if i reinsert it but put it into prose or something when i get around to it? Also with the churches is a problem if they are mentioned another way? ie. The Macedonian Churches in Australia are; MPCO- Раѓање на Пресветла Богородица/ Nativity of the Holy Mother of God of Sydenham, MPCO- Свети Пророк Илија/ Saint Prophet Ilija, MPCO- Свети Никола/ Saint Nikola of Preston, etc?. IF not just another way which would not conflict with the WP:NOTDIR. Also the same with the KUD's, some ideas in their inclusion. I believe that because they are involved with the community the should be mentioned.? get back to me thanx. PMK1 (talk) 06:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Alright thats fine. If you find the book yourself it is an interesting read :). as for the churches, is it alright if put info about say the Macedonian Cathedral and Monasteries in Australia as they would be more significant than just your average church if thats alright? PMK1 (talk) 12:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Thanks
My feelings are so strong about the issue that I prefer to let others see first - I think its a serious issue that eats away at the credibility of wikipedia when geographically challenged american teenagers tend to see the whole world in terms of their us centrism and their culture as if it is a universal given. Thanks again - sorry havent finished the cat tagging yet but it is happening SatuSuro 02:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- ...and thank you as well for the friendly advice - you are 100% correct on the minor edits and I apologise - it's a nervous habit I've developed on another wikipedia where I do a lot of editing. On the matter of where one is directed for personal tête-à-têtes , it is extremely common right across all the wiki projects. I am a bureaucrat on another wikipedia, and as a consequence, I spend most of my time there, so I encourage wikipedians to leave messages there for me. The universal sign-in will eventually get rid of the problem to which you allude (I think). Kind regards. πιππίνυ δ - (dica) 05:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] McEwen
Hi - could you, as a third party, also please warn Ben1111au not to persist in reverting without any reason? Thanks. Timeshift (talk) 11:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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Matilda talk 20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about deleting the thing in the election pendulum: I got my facts muddled :-( John Wormell (talk) 09:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] You can never have too many refs
Please re-insert. Timeshift (talk) 04:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only make links that are relevant to the context, and the link is relevant. I await a reason for removing it. I do not believe the article is over-referenced, I believe it is a good article suffering from good referencing. If you believe it is over-referenced I suggest you say so on the talk page. And the Chinese name doesn't bother me. Timeshift (talk) 04:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I now need you more than ever...
Hi Matilda, yes, I'm a lazy bugger and one not to be trusted, but I do need your help at the moment, or at least your advice. It actually relates back to something I said above about unifying log-ins across wiki projects. I've just done that, but by some quirk of history, in en.wiki I am User:Pippu d'angelo, whereas everywhere else I am "Pippu d'Angelo" (with a capital "A"). I reserved that name a while back (User:Pippu d'Angelo), it currently links to my small "a" name. I understand that there is a way to shift everything from my old name to my preferred name, are you able to do that for me? If you can help me I will be forever indebted to you, will follow your every instruction, and for starters, I'll throw myself into the bearpit... Thanking you in anticipation. πιππίνυ δ - (dica) 03:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- All fixed - thanks for your initial advice - does this mean I now have to enter the bearpit? πιππίνυ δ - (dica) 00:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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- P.S. sorry about all the edits to your page, this template has been messing up so I now have to go and fix it, but well done! Taifarious1 08:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Template:Infobox_Ethnic_group
Your recent edit to the template has created some malfunctions. Could you check? Thanks.Xasha (talk) 23:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
In Moldovans, there's something like "style="background:#fee8ab;" style="background:#fee8ab;". I think to correct that you have to put the {{!}} instead of | inside the if statements you added.Xasha (talk) 23:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
There's another one at | Languages, that should be {{!}} Languages and same at religions. Xasha (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, but I think you missed to change also the ones before Languages and Religions, as shown in my previous message. No problem, we're here to build an encyclopedia and people should work together whenever a problem arises.Xasha (talk) 00:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] ARIA Winners
Interesting question - the reason I deleted the category from Kevin Bloody Wilson's album Kev's Back (The Return of the Yobbo) was because when I had a look at the category the were no other albums listed as ARIA Award winners only the performing artist (BTW am a KBW fan). When you look at the ARIA website it is clear that the artist is awarded the award not the body of work - there is potentially an arguement then for the creation of a separate category of ARIA Award winning work, to go with the category of ARIA Award winners similar to the way the Grammy Award categories are structured - though that still means a fair bit of work for someone.... (if you were interested)Dan arndt (talk) 08:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Edits
Sorry about that. I didn't notice. Thank you for telling me. =)Mcelite (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Barnstar!
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| Awarded for your quick work to improve the article A wigwam for a goose's bridle while it was at AfD. Well done! Mattinbgn\talk 00:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC) |
Hi Matilda. This may be premature but the article looks safe to me now. It is now sourced, well written and clearly more that a dicdef. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 00:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hey perhaps it's just another wigwam in a goose's bridle for me to comment here :) but I add my congratulations on a great save.--VS talk
[edit] You have mail.
I've just sent you an email about something. Bidgee (talk) 01:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just as well it wasn't about nothing. Orderinchaos 11:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Newest Cabal
Having investigated this situation more fully it seems that the three of you Mattinbgn, Longhair and Matilda belong to your own cabal now - all apparently having been informed by your grandmother (or similar) to mind your own business in this way. Unfortunately, as I have never been told to mind my own business by anyone (let alone my grandparents) I am unable to join up (*said with fingers crossed behind my back*). However I wish you all well. :) --VS talk 01:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Edelsten
did you check p.18 of [1]? Edelsten threatens legal action?! Michellecrisp (talk) 06:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- as I said to someone else, maybe his lawyers can leave a message on your talk page! Michellecrisp (talk) 06:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- thanks Michellecrisp (talk) 06:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fair crack of the whip
Cripes blarn me hide there's a bloody useless amount of drivel on wikipedia and they carnt even put enough bloody oz trylian idiot idomatic expwessions from our great man barry leslie patterson in the oz strylian english section - garrn its all spittle vitriol and naysaying - the sooner the collected words of sir les and his great friend daggy mate barry's collected works are on the thing verbatim dr strangelove peter sellers ghost will be quivering with rage, pass me the vaseline before i chunder SatuSuro 07:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC) This is a very strange way of saying thanks for saving an idiomatic oz phrase from an untimely pssing :) SatuSuro 07:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- The pantheon of derivative and invented phraseology of the full humphries clan of creations would create a potential project as useful, informative and revealing as the resurrected monty python project :P SatuSuro 07:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
OK you have pointed me to a trip to wiki-icktionary some time - there are some websites without adequate etymological history - my copy of baker is hiding somehwere in the next room - just when i was trying to get into some demog tagging again - sigh - too many threads - not enough time :( SatuSuro 07:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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