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[edit] Hello StarOfDavid

welcome to Wikipedia. Just noticed a couple of your recent edits. Please note that the word terrorism is a highly loaded term and we generally try to avoid using it in articles. See: Wikipedia:Words to avoid. Also, you might want to consider changing your username, as it suggests a certain partisanship, and this is liable to cause you problems editing articles on Middle East topics.

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You can sign posts on talk pages by entering four tildes (~~~~~); the system automatically inserts your username with a datestamp. If you have any questions, see Wikipedia:Help, post a question to the Village pump, or leave a message on my User talk:Viajero page. Good luck, -- Viajero 14:23, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome note. Few things:

  • How do I change username?
  • As for terrorism, I agree that is a loaded term, and in order to not create POV contraversies I use the neutral "miltants" when reporting about IDF conflicts with armed gunmen. BUT, delibertly killing civilians - such as in the buses suicide bombing this is clearly an act of terrorism - by all defeintions.

MathKnight 17:57, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Just left a reply to you on my Talk page -- Viajero 18:19, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Although it appears you have only been here several hours, you have certainly gotten off to a rocky start. Stating on Talk:Actions against Israelis that edits done by other users is "sabotage by pro-Palestinians cyber-terrorists" is highly agressive language. Such personal attacks are considered a breach of Wikiquette and are strongly discouraged. Please understand: Wikipedia is not the place to pursue political agendas. -- Viajero 22:17, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It is also not the place to vandelize other people works. That what BL have done and he kept ignoring all request to leave the orginal article as it was. As I prooved to you, his information was not reliable (gunfight in Zaiyoun, he added 5 killed and failed to mention 5 of the 8 killed were armed Jihad members). I made a copy of the orginal article, in hope he will not vandelize it too. MathKnight 23:56, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I would like to formally invite you to join others at Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Arab-Israeli_conflict to work with us toward resolving issues that have arisen and resulted in edit wars here at Wikipedia. Also, I would like to formally request that you agree, along with the rest of us, to refrain from editting each of the articles that are listed as currently under protection or subject to edit wars on that page till the issues regarding that particular article have been resolved and we have removed that article from the currently under protection or subject to edit wars list. OneVoice 15:33, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I agree. MathKnight 12:07, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Your name has been changed from StarOfDavid to MathKnight. You should be able to log in with the same password. -- Tim Starling 00:36, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)

10x. MathKnight 12:07, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

You need to go to the [1] page and vote regarding the changes some are trying to make there.

Hello. I think in some of your pages you're using too many capital letters. I moved Engineering Vehicles (plural, and with a capital V), to engineering vehicle (singular, with a lower-case v). Michael Hardy 19:56, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Capital letter were put because it began as a caption. As for plurals vs single, since people tend to use both forms when searching\linking a value it realy doesn't that matter. Anyway, thanks for the copyedit. I'll try next time to use less capitals. MathKnight 20:59, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cauchy's integral formula

I think that you need also to demand the the subset U is also connectable. i.e. U is a domain in the complex plain. MathKnight 22:49, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

That's tacitly already there, in the comments about the disk. Michael Hardy 20:06, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

O.K. MathKnight 20:59, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] POV, Shmov

I am with you on the IDF, but I suggest to add "Israel claims that..." into that section to avoid unnecessary confrontation. Considering what's going on in other places, I prefer to choose my battles. What do you think? --Humus sapiens 19:16, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I didn't hide the fact that the thwarting report is provided by the IDF, it put as a link in the "external links". Meanwhile, other writer elaborate on that and written the effectivness paragraph. I am convinced that there is no factual accuracy since everyone can count the amount of suicide bombings. Some of the articles, such as terrorism against Israeli in 2004 have been hijacked and vandelize by pro-Palestinians. The main article, Al-Aqsa intifada, has remained balanced and POV. I have decided to focus on other topics - mainly math related to differential equations and some of engineering vehicles and military technology. But I also had the oppertunity to work on related articles such as Israeli Gaza Strip barrier, The Popular Resistance Committees and clean some Palestinian\radical-left inctiment on Moshe Ya'alon and Shaul Mofaz. MathKnight 19:40, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

--- Perhaps you want to update List of Jewish history topics when you have time. --Humus sapiens|Talk 07:34, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics

Hello. In your recent edit of the above page, some of the links failed to work only because you used inappropriate plurals, linking to the non-existent page titled eigenvalues rather than the long-existent page eigenvector. Several others linked to redirect pages because of inappropriate plurals. You also linked to Fourier Transform, with an inappropriately capitalized T, which is a redirect page to Fourier transform, with a lower-case t. Michael Hardy 00:26, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

These are common mistakes, most often, using plurals in just the natrual thing, so it is good there is a redirection page. Capitalization sometimes can be justified when the value is a name (of man, or thing, or a concept). MathKnight 21:45, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Notice

MathKnight,

I just thought that I should point out that your language in Talk:Al-Aqsa_Intifada is getting rather mean. Apart from using false, inflammatory statements to defend your stance (such as " what the Iraqis did to American in Fallujah is a common practice withib Palestinian society - burning people alive, stabbing them, mutilate their bodies and hang them on poles in the streets",

--> This is a fact. The lynching is a common practice within Palestinian society. Here are some pictures proving this point. Or you can read Haaretz report from today, stating that about 11% from Palestinian casualties were caused by another Palestinian. Here is the URL address: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/414634.html and the link 11% of Palestinians killed by other Palestinians, study shows, By Arnon Regular.

"The settlers in the Gaza Strip never murdered Palestinians."

--> This is the truth and you can't exterminate me for not submiting to the false hate-biased accusations.

, etc), you've been making heavy accusations about the people that you are debating with.

  • The hatred toward Israel has wiped out every moral sense in you.
  • Of course you'll again blame me in Zionist consiperacy as you always do.
  • The rest of your allegation are irrelevant to the matter and are twisted in a Bolshevik kind of a way.
  • You have an ill custom to resolve any conflict - eveb rergarding to a technical aspect of a source - to boneheaded chant in the style of furious Arab mob
  • I deeply sorry you are a skinhead racists.
--> You are no better than me. So stop preaching. I'm only replying you in the same manner you are writing.

Please try and watch your language. Calling people skinheads and racists, even if you disagree with them, is counterproductive. Additionally, when a conversation is everyone-against-your-stance, please accept that noone agrees with you and take your efforts elsewhere.

--> You watch your language and stop inciting and flaming. I'm only reacting.

P.S. - Before you call *me* a skinhead or a racist because of my opposition to your edits on the al-Aqsa page, and because I brought your quotes to your attention, I should add that two of my best friends in college were jewish, my bridesmaid was half-jewish, and I'm listening to Israeli pop music as I type this. I hold the viewpoints held by Gen. Matityahu Peled. Gen. Amram Mitzna. The founders of the Geneva Initiative. All of Gush-Shalom. The 59% of Israelis who support withdrawl from all but the largest of the settlements [2]. Etc. I see the actions of Likud as being harmful to the state of Israel's future and as encouraging the rise of anti-semitism in the world. In short... well, try and remember that not everyone who disagrees with you on a subject fits so neatly into a racist, murdering, "evil" stereotype.

--> Racism come in many ways and many shapes. People who are fixed on accusing ONLY Israel in ALL the troubles there are, are racists toward only one ethnical group - no matter if they are activists in radical left groups or radical right wing groups. Advocating mass murder of innocent Jewish civilians - even by the name of "humanism", "left idealogy" or Palestinian-nationalism - is anti-semitism.
--> There is a difference bewtween the support of removal of settlememts out of Gaza to the support of massacring their inhabitants by Palestinian mob. Miztna, Peled and even the Geneva founders would be strongly repulsed from a suggestion to let Palestinians exterminate the settlers. Even them don't use such hatefull rethoric against the settlers, or against Israel.


Also, when it comes to editing: you win some, you lose some. If you win every time, even when there's far more people in opposition to an edit that you want to make... perhaps you should rethink how aggressive you're being with your edits. --Rei

--> So far you were the only one that had a problem with those edits. You also managed to turn discussion on a source away to a political-forum agruement. I asked you four times to stay focus on the issue, but you divereged every time. Unlike you, Mustafaa had good and relevant arguments, with productive suggestions. MathKnight 09:47, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Left-wing politics

Some of your recent edits to the aforementioned article have been slightly POV. Although what you say is true for many extreme leftists, and that the extreme leftist factions are becoming more prevalent in today's society (particularily in Europe), most leftists including liberals (in the North American sense of the word), social democrats and even libertarians would disagree with your assessment. Also, many people are leftist on other views like social policy and environmentalism (see political spectrum to see what I mean). I've changed the wording of some of what you wrote and added some more text to address the concerns above so that it is now in a more pro/con/pro/con/... form. This form is common in controversial topics as it allows people to see the topic from both sides and judge for themselves which argument they agree with. Feel free to add more to the article but make sure you try to keep everything encyclopedic as even if you disagree with some of the views presented, many people in the world agree with them.

Also, if you want to link to an article but pluralize the word, you can do this by putting the "s" after the closing square brackets in the link (like I did above). So to link to liberal when talking about liberals, use [[liberal]]s. Telso 05:29, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

No problems. I saw most of the changes and I o.k wth them, but I'm going to post back link to Taheri's article and re-quote the claim that only minor condamnation was sound (if any) against Arab terrorism. Also please remember that the AWM is not only composed from "classical" lefists but also from fundmentalist Islamic movenents - which are responsible for some hate-speech and means of supports to Arab atrocities (I saw in one of the rallies, a protestor wearing a T-shirt glorifying Osama Bin Laden). I stressed in the article that this is a minority.

As you see, many feels that the movement is very one-sided and using different moral standarts for the USA and the Arabs.

I also added that "Extreme leftist factions are becoming more prevalent in today's society (particularily in Europe), and the public image of the AWM is more affected by them than the silence majority".
MathKnight 09:42, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hey MK, could you please drop me an email when you have a minute (you'll find the address at my h. page)? Thx. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 07:23, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Histadrut

Oops, trade union redirects to "labor union" - American vs. British English. So your "paradox" is not paradoxical after all. Yaron 16:52, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

Well, in Hebrew, "trade union" and "labor union" have different meanings. The paradox in the Histadrut is that it was both employer and both the labor union of the employees. MathKnight 18:19, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ezer Weizman(n)

Hi MathKnight. Please see my response at Talk:Ezer_Weizmann Jewbacca 18:25, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Left-wing politics, anti-war movement

Please see my question to you at Talk:Left-wing_politics#Status_of_NPOV_dispute_Aug_8.2C_2004 -- Jmabel 23:30, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)

I've now worked my way through another section. Take a look at the article and the talk page: I'm hoping we can now confine the NPOV dispute to just the "Criticism" section. -- Jmabel 05:37, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)

O.K. I'll take a look. MathKnight 08:54, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Shelah

Hi, I've already asked the question on the talk page of Saharon Shelah, but getting no response, I guess it will be more efficient to ask you directly. So: are you sure that Shelah's first name is spelled סהרון? The only reference I could find, namely on Web pages of the Jerusalem University, spells it שהרן. I hesitated to change the article directly, since my knowledge of Hebrew is close to zero, and I might overlook something. -- EJ 14:26, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for the correction. The confusion was because their is a word in Hebrew סהרון which means "crescent moon". MathKnight 14:53, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Merkava07.jpg

[edit] Image:Merkava07.jpg

Hi there! Thanks for adding the image Image:Merkava07.jpg. It currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, and I was hoping that you would add one as untagged images may be deleted eventually. (You can use {{gfdl}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) Thanks! --Diberri | Talk 18:04, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

It was taken from the Hebrew wikipedia. There is no further information there. If you insist of removing it, I will try to find a better picture. Also, if you have an idea where can a good photo can found, please tell me. MathKnight 19:20, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Is anti-Semitism actually real?

Are Nazi's and the KKK really anti-Semitic, or is that just a Zionist/Jew claim? Once again we have someone making the outrageous claim that any use of the word "anti-Semitic" is a POV violation, and that the Nazis and KKK are not really anti-Semitic. For some time we have had trouble with articles on the Anti-Defamation League, Jew and Holocaust denial, with people repeatedly rewriting these articles to make proven instances of anti-Semitism out to be merely Jew accusations. Fortunately these edits have been fought back each time. But we again have a problem with someone damaging the Anti-Defamation League article. I thought that this might be of some interest. As far as I can tell, this is not about NPOV policy; this is about someone trying to whitewash Nazis, the KKK, people who spread the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, etc. This is about someone's agenda to whitewash anti-Semitism, and make it look like those silly Jews are just whining about things which probably aren't real. RK 02:55, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ovadia Yosef

Hi MathKnight, I moved Ovadia Yosef back to his non-rabbinic title. No rabbis (or any other clerics, for that matter) have their clerical titles incorporated in the page title, and I don't think Rabbi Ovadia makes an exception (see Samson Raphael Hirsch, Meir Simcha of Dvinsk, Eliyahu Eliezer Dessler etc.) JFW | T@lk 08:44, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

O.K. MathKnight 19:41, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Trash comments on Talk: pages

My advice would be to just ignore such comments. Jayjg 19:18, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have to admit, sometimes I don't recognize trolls easily, but in this case it seems obvious. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 09:20, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Revert needed

An anon user gutted the Military engineer article - I don't know how to revert - can you do this and show me how?

Never mind, User:Livajo fixed it in response to a trivial edit with comment I posted. But I still need to know how to do a revision (I did ask him/her in my thanks, so I will probably get the answer via that channel).

How to revert: You go to "history", you click on the date of the earlier version you want to revert to. You should see a copy of the article with this writing "(Revision as of 01:09, 9 Sep 2004)" under the title. Now, click "edit" and just save the page. MathKnight 08:53, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorists

Methinks you forgot Arafat Jewbacca 12:53, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

I'll add him, but it sure will draw controversy. MathKnight 12:57, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The whole category will draw controversey. Maybe we should rename it "Palestinian Activists" :-D Jewbacca 13:00, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)
I ponder whether to add Hussam Abdo the teenage suicide bomber. He was trying to perform suicide attack, but yet - he was a "mentaly-challenged" boy who was exploited by terrorists. Also, his attack was foiled. MathKnight 13:05, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)