User talk:Mateo2006

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I think the same - after my last message to you I realized that some articles are literally buried in internal links. See also is a nice way of highlighting the most crucial.Peter Rehse 03:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Choi Yong Sul

Hi Matt, I really liked what you did to the Choi Yong Sul-article. Brilliant. Kbarends 08:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Yoseikan Aikido

Hi,

To me Yoseikan Aikido is very different to Yoseikan Budo. Yoseikan Aikido is a school (style) of Aikido, and Yoseikan Budo is Sogo Budo, or complete martial art. If you ask most high level Yoseikan Aikidoka, they would make the statement that Yoseikan Budo (as it is today) is the creation of Hiroo Mochizuki (as sensei's Auge and Sugiyama do), and they learnt Aikido, Judo and Kobudo as separate, but intertwined arts from Mochizuki, and were graded separately in them. Aiki is considered a section of Yoseikan Budo, and the Wado Ryu Karate influence is very apparent, this and the influence of boxing and kick boxing has completely changed the stand up and fight methods of Yoseikan Budo, which is similar to modern trends in mixed martial arts.

The idea that Yoseikan Aikido is a subsection of Yoseikan Budo is very wrong, That would be like saying Kito Ryu is a subsection of Judo, now that it is no longer taught, and only exists in the kata of Judo. Yes high level Judoka practice kata from Kito Ryu, but does that mean they truly understand Kito Ryu, since they have not spent countless years training (in full armour), I would have to say not. The primary art that they have spent that time on is judo, and that is why they are at the level to learn those kata. This is the same as a Yoseikan Budoka's Aiki component.

Simply put the fundamental goals and approaches are different, and I feel this is true Yoseikan Ryu Karate (which is fundamentally an offshoot of Shotakan and looks nothing like Yoseikan Budo), and why I have invited them to submit an article.

As you asked, that's my thinking on the topic. Grahamwild 14:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Jigoro Kano

Hi Mateo, great improvements on the Kano article. The expansion into his life was much needed. I made those changes the other day just to point out a couple of things in the intro, mostly just because I'm a stickler for wiki formatting and style guidelines. Specifically regarding the Kodokan, I suggest you don't mention it by name until you reach its creation in the chronology of his life. If you're going to discuss the kanji that make up the word, you're right to do it the first time the word is mentioned. However, the wikimanual for Japanese articles advises that where the term is linked to a main article about that term, it is generally inadvisable to provide the kanji for the word. In this case, I would save discussion of the kanji for the page about the Kodokan, but that's just my suggestion. In general, I prefer not to interfere too much until you're more finished with your expansion. I try not to judge an artist's work until it's done, so to speak... At any rate, I just wanted to say great work so far, and if I can provide any assistance, I would be happy to help. Bradford44 18:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could you help me write this article?

Hello,

I was wondering if you would be willing to help me write either Seikichi_Iha or Shorin-ryu_Shido-kan. Tkjazzer 21:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Thanks, Mateo, I'm pleased that you liked them. Let's all keep up the good work. Bradford44 19:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes and kukishin

"Great addition to the the Tenjin Shinyo-ryu article! That kind of thing really makes a visual difference. Best, Matt --Mateo2006 01:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)"

Thank you, though I cant take credit for the "Navbox koryu" as that was Bradford44s creation, I just added it. The original MA-infobox (right hand side of the article) is my creation, though bradford managed to put it in a template for easier usage.
As for kukishin I'm afraid I'm not very knowledgeable about that particular school and its origins. The tradition at a glance claims the school originated in the 14th century just like Nen-ryu, but I cant offer any information on the matter I'm afraid. Fred26 05:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Ji Han Jae

What can we do about the anonymous guy that keeps changing the hapkido and Ji Han Jae articles? This is getting very very annoying. Kbarends 00:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the part in the hapkido-article. IMHO the part about Ji is way to long there anyway, it contain more information than the original Ji Han Jae-article. I moved some of the information to the Ji-article. So maybe we only have to keep an eye on that one from now on ;-) Kbarends 02:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hapkido

Hi Mateo, I certainly think that the hapkido article is going in the right direction. Maybe even to a point where a seperate Hapkido Techniques article might be justified. But for the time being this is okay. I believe it is important though to point out that hapkido is a very versatile art. Kbarends 02:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know the some users such as user:Nate6418 and several other id's owned by the same user, are attempting to revert every edit I make till they get blocked. I irritated them by not letting them self promote on an article & they seem to have a grudge, hence reverting as vandalism. --Nate1481( t/c) 08:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer, admins are aware so their ususaly blocked & reverted befor I get on --Nate1481( t/c) 16:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry my bad --Nate1481( t/c) 12:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead links

Hi Matt, I insert the dead links indeed to motivate other people, but sometimes also for myself. I have no problem with it when the get deleted however. Kbarends 23:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Daito-ryu

Hi Matt, I added the tag because the article is shaping up nicely, but clearly short of GA-class, so I thought an appropriate and specific cleanup tag would help spur some improvements. I wasn't concerned with the lack of citations in the lead (which there were four or so of), but rather the unreferenced subsections. For example, "Related arts" and "Classification of techniques" were entirely unreferenced, so that at least justified the tag. If you're interested in taking the article further, the following things still need improvement:

  • Citations for statements such as the following, found under 'The Horikawa Branch': "The Kodokai was founded by students of Kodo Horikawa (1894-1980), whose distinctive interpretation of 'aiki' movements can be seen in the movements of his students." This is basic factual background information that requires a source. Not every sentence, but certainly every grouping of related statements needs a citation.
  • The article desperately needs a history section. Explain the 1000+ year lineage that Daito-ryu claims, beginning with Minamoto Yoshimitsu studying the bodies of the dead, etc... Make sure to acknowledge that this is the claim of Takeda Sokaku, and some people dispute it for lack of evidence.
  • Classification of techiques needs some kind of introduction, explanation, and context. Right now I can only imagine that it is entirely meaningless to a non-martial arts practitioner.

If you want to discuss further, we should probably do it on the Daito-ryu page so others can participate. I'd love to see this article move to GA, though. Bradford44 04:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The nameing convention has been discussed at length. I would just stay with it especially if you are bringing in other historical names.Peter Rehse 05:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos and GA proposal

Thanks, Matt. If you can, please give the article a good look, and respond to my recent post on the talk page about GA nomination. I think it can be nominated immediately unless you can think of things that need work, first. Bradford44 18:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu Has Been Promoted To Good Article

Congratulations, the article Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu has been promoted to good article. Thanks for all your hard work and contributions to Wikipedia. -Weston.pace 16:59, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos

Thanks, Matt, but your contributions were also essential - I'm just happy to have another GA martial arts article (making 6, total, now). Bradford44 20:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Kano was the other one I've put through GA, although I did virtually no substantive work there, just converting all of the references to citation templates and heavy copyediting for manual of style, grammar, and syntax. I'll take a look at hapkido, though, and see if I can help (although virtually all of the articles about "types" of martial arts have the same problem with too many POV-pushing editors).

[edit] Aikido

Hi I just resubmitted the Aikido article for Featured article status. Hopefully we can get over the hump this time.Peter Rehse 08:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Daito-ryu promotion

Hi Matt, everything looks fine to me. I invited the folks at WP:Japan to tag the page for their project, as well, so I think that's just what was going on. First someone just added their project tag, and then another person came along and filled in the assessment parameter. Bradford44 15:51, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello, my name is Dean Kwon. I am Master Tae Man Kwon's son. My father and I are new to writing on wikipedia but it seems that you take a big interest in the articles about my father. My father and I are going over some things in other articles about Hapkido, Yong-sul Choi, etc. and making some edits/corrections. We also plan to extensively elaborate on the information on his page. I would like to say both, that any help would be appreciated and also, if you have any questions for Master Kwon himself, please let us know. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deankwon (talk • contribs) 09:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)