Talk:Matronymic

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On 17 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was redirect to patronymic. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Matronymic for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 01:07, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

I can see that that never happened. Either it should, or this article should be built up a bit. I'd prefer the latter, but even had I voted two years ago, I would have been in the minority, and I don't really have time to do it myself. If it stays, I'd like to see some examples of matronyms in different cultures or languages (e.g. Russian, Welsh, etc) described here, perhaps with some information on the relative frequencies of matronymic naming conventions. Anyone? Msr657 10:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Matronymic "middle" names are certainly NOT present in Russia, Ukraine, or Belarus. There is just no such possible linguistic form, the languages simply do not allow them. It's a topic that isn't discussed and appears somewhat taboo, but, apparently, illegitimate children are given some arbitrary middle patronymic or the patronymic of the presumed but unnamed father on their birth certificates. A full Russian name absolutely requires a middle patronym and orphanages make up patronyms for found children who have no known relatives. Unwed women basically choose what to write in the birth certificate, but some form of middle patronym is inevitable, and a matronym is neither acceptable, nor allowed. However, matronymic surnames are common (Marinin, Ulyanov, etc.), and bear no stigma whatsoever in modern times. 128.195.186.34 12:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Adieu

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