Talk:Matej Bel
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From the article:
"...besides many nationalist passages in his works (especialyl in the Notitia Hungariae novae historico geographica in many places) this can be seen e.g. in the introduction he wrote in Doležal's Grammar of the Czech-Slavic language: „...I both love and know the Czech-Slavic language ..only our language can compete with and exceed the beauty of all European languages" (Doležal, Pavel: Grammatica Slavico-Bohemica, 1746).
this thing proves that he liked CZECH-slavic language.... so why SLOVAK? LOL. Anyway, who can prove, that this quotation is not false? BTW, the lines were cut next to each other, so I do not see wich language is called "ours". --91.120.92.221 10:52, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The name "Alzbeta Cesnekova" is clearly out of place for a person who had been born in Veszprém (Hungary). In this light, the Slovak ethnicity of Bél should also be deemphasized (he was at least half Hungarian) and there is no wonder that his major work was "Notitia Hungariae..." and not "Notitia Slovaciae..." Árpád 04:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
It is strange. "Grammatica Slavico-Bohemica" is correctly translated as "Grammar of the Czech-Slovak language", but Bel should have mentioned "SLAVIC-czech language". He wrote it in latin language and i suppose, that he used the word "slavico-", which could mean both "slavic-" and "slovak-". Since we talk about introduction to slovak-czech grammar, i think, it is quite logical, that he meant slovak-czech language. I made correction in the article. --89.173.46.196 14:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Let's not consider this sentence a declaration of his ethnicity (Slavic? Czech?). Squash Racket 17:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, according to sources he had shared ethnicity (Slovak and Hungarian parents), shared identity (he spoke Hungarian and Slovak, even German and Latin), he contributed to both the Hungarian and the Slovak culture. Claiming either that he was Slovak or that he was Hungarian would be misleading. Squash Racket 18:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- You are absolutely right! --Koppany 19:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Could anybody please put the original Latin text? It's not on the web, only translation. There is a lot of mistranslation of latin scripts from other topics, too. Abdulka (talk) 15:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
