Talk:Match Day (series)

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[edit] Wrong content?

I've played almost every football game published in Europe during the 80's and 90's and I don't know any Matchday Soccer, even strager by Gremlin Interactive.

I've been searching the game in Internet with Google, but the only references that I could find were in text copied from Matchday Soccer article in Wikipedia.

And if you look for Gremlin soccer games there are a lot (Gary Lineker series, Footballer of the Year series, The Soccer Squad, Actua Soccer series, VR Soccer 96, Premier Manager series, Euro England 96, etc). But you can't find Matchday Soccer ([1])

Could the videogame be Match_Day_II? Their descriptions are very similar. In that case the link in FIFA (series) had to be corrected —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Pantera (talk • contribs) 10:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Many errors

I guess I'm going to give up trying to correct this article, every time I do I get reverted, on the last attempt I was accused of vandalism (although I could argue that the edit was simply bold). Since I wrote the game they are describing I would consider myself an expert. Here I will take apart the article on a line by line basis (my comments are start with JR>):

Matchday Soccer is a soccer franchise created by Gremlin.

JR> No it was an Ocean title, if gremlin had attempted to publish a game called Matchday Soccer we would have had them in court so fast their 22 legs would never have touched the ground.

The first game Matchday Soccer was made in 1984 for most console in that time. It had a power bar for kick strength and was one of the first good football games. It had good graphics for its time and great ball control.

JR>> Whilst Match Day II (published several years later) did use the power bar (as far as I know this system has never been used elsewhere) Match Day did not.

It was followed up by a sequel Match Day 2 released in 1986. One criticism was the lack of numbers and had a bad screen contrast. The cover originally was planned to have Diego Maradona on the cover but Gremlin never actually approached him about this.

JR> Notice the correct use of the name this time, again this was a game I designed and programmed. As mentioned above this did have the power bar system. There were no plans to have Diego on the cover, the artist was just given the brief to do a soccer cover. He tells me he just found a magazine and used a photo in there to create a painting with - by chance I found out who that photo was of a few weeks after it was released - it was none other than Gary Liniker and I only found out because a few weeks after MD2 was released a Liniker licenced game was released that used the same picture, fortuantly nobody noticed at the time or it would have been nasty. I have the original painting hanging in front of me right now.

Matchday Soccer may be getting a 3rd game called Matchday Football 2008 for the PlayStation 3, possibly being developed by SCE London Studio (The developers for SingStar). The game may only feature a League style Club Championship and a knock-out Cup called European Club Cup and Rest of World club Cup. The game may only feature around 30 clubs and 15 Countries. The game might be like Sensible Soccer, which also had a current-gen update. Matchday 08 will have the same style as Sensi with Big Heads or something like that.

JR> No idea where this came from, the franchise is dead and since anyone owning the name would have to pay me lots to use it I very much doubt they would bother - the current owner of the name is Infogrammes/Atari

The 3rd and possibly final Matchday Soccer is currently only a rumour, but may actually be in development.

JR> If so I have not heard of it and if anybody would have...


Cheers Jon Ritman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.105.101 (talk) 19:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'm sorry, Jon

Of course I don't think the text was modified by Jon Ritman.

There's a mistake: it's written

No idea where this came from, the franchise is dead and since anyone owning the name would have to pay me lots to use it I very much doubt they would bother - the current owner of the name is Infogrammes/Atari

But in this interview he says:

There was a minor issue that made the publisher change the name (from Match Day 3) to Super Match Soccer

Anyway, if it was really Jon Ritman he could write that information in his official web site and it would be referenced here in the Wikipedia

--El Pantera (talk) 21:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Only to a certain degree. Self published sources are frowned upon. He could claim anything, like saying that the footballer graphics in the original Matchday were copies of the ones from Bear Bovver with the snouts cut off. - X201 (talk) 22:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] It's really me

You are correct that a Match Day 3 game was written and renamed and released in 1997 under the name Super Match Soccer, I wrote it (or to tell the truth my team at Cranberry Source did under my direction). The article however claims that the MD3 was being written now for a 2008 realease, that's just wrong i'm afraid - if you still don't believe it is me then just go to my site at www.ritman.co.uk and find my mail address and write directly to me (make sure you remove the nospam part of the address of course). Cheers Jon Ritman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.105.101 (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Factual accuracy disputed

Given the discussion above and the complete lack of references, I've tagged the article as disputed. Inline tags would be more helpful here rather than outright deletion of information. If sources are available that clearly show that some of the information is inaccurate, please provide them on this discussion page. --Ronz (talk) 22:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I've knocked out the stuff that was inaccurate (inaccurate is not the right word) it really needed to go. At best this article just needs to be a disambig page with brief info. Will come back to it in the week. - X201 (talk) 23:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect to Match Day (nothing to merge)

After checking the external links on Match Day, I believe that this is an incorrect title. I suggest redirect from this article to Match Day. Anybody disagree/agree? I'll perform the redirect tomorrow if nobody disagrees. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 00:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The correct article name as per other VG articles is Match Day (series). I'll move it there. - X201 (talk) 09:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I've written a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Matchday_serie to keep this entry, please check it and tell me —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Pantera (talk • contribs) 21:48, 28 January 2008 (UTC)