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This is rather an odd page. It looks like it can't decide whether to be an disambig. page or a collection of stubs. Quill 03:19, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If it is to continue in this form I think the Master#Maritime_usage section should be expanded into separate sections for the usage of master of a merchant vessel, sailing master, master and commander, and master commandant. Master Commandant is what the early US Navy called a Master and Commander. Geo Swan 19:03, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You're right. It probably should become a disambiguation page and some of the definitions hived off to separate pages. -- Necrothesp 19:58, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

And what do you call a smallholder? Another master perhaps?

[edit] Master Obsolete?

This page is horrendous. Master meant "teacher" which is why in Spanish, a teacher is called a maestra or maestro depending on the sex. The latin root shows you why the term is used with a composer. The term is not used exclusively for men, either, as demonstrated by the previous example. In the Bible, Jesus Christ was called master by his disciples. It did not mean they were his slaves, but rather he was their "teacher." Today the Jews use the word Rabbi, although there are etymological differences. The only thing that you are a master of is a masturbator.

More recently is was used as a title for boys and unmarried men, but it is now almost entirely obselete.

Is this really true? All the mail I recieved as a boy was addressed to Master ..... , and I'm only 19.

Regarding its use for teachers, I agree that currently gender-neutral terminology is in vogue in Great Britain, and probably other English-speaking countries, but many of us can remember having a headmaster or headmistress, and being taught by a French master or sewing mistress, though the latter usage began to sound old fashioned before the former. Children and teachers seem to find the term quaint, so it is probably not in regular use by them any more. I recall having to reply "Salve, magister" or "Salve, magistra" (as appropriate) when a Latin teacher addressed the class with "Salvete, discipuli!" Here I am referring to usage forty years ago in ordinary Scottish schools, funded by the state through local government, and not the fee-paying Public Schools of the English elite. NRPanikker (talk) 10:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)