Talk:Massie Trial

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[edit] Bias

This article suffers from extreme bias of information, with several quotes placed within the text lacking any sourcing or context. The opening actually says that the men "got away with murder". Also, the article lacks a large degree of Wikification.--24.16.206.32 09:50, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

They, the Massie's, which you refer to as "the men" (Kahahawai?), DID get away with murder. They killed the guy, got caught, admitted to it, and their only punishment was that they had to drink tea before leaving town. Would you not describe this as "getting away with it"? I would, and I think most people would.

It would also seem odd that you would claim this article shows "extreme bias". Did you even read any of the articles linked to at the bottom? If anything, the article here does not report some of the more extreme cases of racial injustice that came out during the case. Perhaps you find the very reporting of this racism "biased", but that would be a rather nieve point on which to stand.

And I don't even know what "context" you claim is missing. This was the era of yellow journalism, these sorts of stories were common. The sources are contained in the linked articles.

Maury 15:37, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Listing of the sources in this article would be far preferable. The Advertiser article, sadly, offers very little additional sourcing. I found another article by Judge Charles A. Riccio, Jr., at the Colorado State Patrol Academy, containing his own in-depth analysis of the Massie Affair. How much of his story is accurate, I can't say, but I suspect that the writer of Blood & Orchids, the CBS-TV/Lorimar Productions mini-series based on the case, heard some of the same rumors that Judge Riccio heard (about how Thalia actually came to get hurt, for example).

More to the point: does anyone seriously believe that Joseph Kahahawai, Horace Ida, and their three co-defendants actually committed the rape and assault of which Thalia accused them? Inter-racial rape does occur, but it's rare; the overwhelming bulk of rapes result when a man assaults a woman of the same racial/ethnic origin as himself. And Rear Admiral Stirling's conduct was disgraceful; I challenge anyone to allege anything in mitigation.--Temlakos 21:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Nobody 19:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I was watching PBS and they said that Darrow's fee was $30,000, and that much of Darrow's wealth had been wiped out during the crash.

[edit] Continuity?

The basic format of this article seems flawed, without use of recognisable breaks in order to allow a contents box to be established. Even if this were fixed, the whole article might need to be re-written anyway - an interesting topic, but completely let down by a lack of continuity. For example, referring to 'Thomas Massie' in the formal sense, then abruptly changing to "Tommie" seems a little unprofessional. --TwistedArcade 22:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)