Talk:Masonic manuscripts

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Contents 1 Manuscript dates 2 Meaning of a Manuscript 3 More manuscripts... 4 Sloane 5 Schaw Statutes

[edit] Manuscript dates

as I have also put in the 'History of Freemasonry' talk section Regius is now thought to date from the early 15th century not 1390, also the kirkwall scroll is usually accepted as dating from the second half of the 18th century, by most scholars except for andrew(?) sinclair whose book on the subject is predicated on it being considerably older. bamboodragon 1:21 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, comparing the dates, "early 15th century" would make Regius 1400-1450, as opposed to 1390, and 1785 is in the latter half of the 18th century (1750-1800). And? MSJapan 01:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

the 'consensus' for the date of 1390 is a consensus amongst who? and yes obviously 1785 is in the 2nd half of the 18th century but is it really much older? the idea that it is of great antiquity is questionable bamboodragon 01:57 19/3/2007

You are walking on thin ice. MSJ does NOT like to be corrected. PGNormand 16:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meaning of a Manuscript

The word Manuscript means a document written by hand as defined in Wikipedia. For documents on freemasonry this only relates to the Old Charges, i.e. de medieval documents.Pvosta 17:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More manuscripts...

I came across a reference someplace with a lot more old documents, but I have to find it again. Just a heads-up for possible expansion. MSJapan 21:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Simply add a section on "The Gothic Constitutions," of which the Cook MS. is the first and oldest. See Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia. PGNormand 16:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sloane

I believe that there are two manuscripts from the collection of Sir Hans Sloane, Bart. One is believed to be the charge given Elias Ashmole.

J. J. in PA 00:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schaw Statutes

The 1st and 2nd Schaw Statutes (by William Schaw) and the 1st and 2nd St.Clair 'charters' (two letters) should certainly be placed within this article. I will try to find some time to do it myself. TheBourtreehillian (talk) 01:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)