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[edit] User:E tac and his new WP:POINT war

User:E tac, and his newfound understanding of WP:FU has decided to go a POV hunt for promo images. He is targetting artists that he does not like and tagging the promo pictures he finds as replaceable. I won't argue over the tag as I believe they are just that. However, the editors choice of targets(bands he hates) and the fact that he is not taking the time to notify the image uploaders of the replaceable tag seems to indicate that he is doing this as a personal vendetta to make up for his own ignorance when it comes to Wikipedia's rules and guidelines. Just thought, as you have had a great deal of contact with the editor, that you would find his new tactics disturbing. Thank you. 142.166.250.133 21:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I've mentioned to him about leaving messages - per the WP:POINT issue, I'm not prepared to take action re: it, but you can get greater input at WP:ANI. Thanks, Martinp23 21:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
That is ridiculous, I am only doing what has been done to images that I have uploaded under the same criteria. In fact I have given much more explanation on my images than these. Also did I not point out that the Iron Maiden image may not be FU to you? I love Iron Maiden, so so much for the POV attack claims, and reguardless of if I like the bands or not has nothing to do with if it is FU or not, correct? I could make the same claims of you for tagging images I have uploaded. --E tac 21:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
E tac - to make it clear, I disagree that there is any bias or WP:POINT coming into play here.. Martinp23 21:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Question, why was the SOAD image tag removed? Most of the images I have uploaded come from official sites, or official myspace sites of the band, and I provide links, unlike that one.--E tac 21:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bees and inebriation

Please take a look at my rough draft at User talk:Filll/beedrunk and give me your opinion.--Filll 21:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Fair use tags - please leave messages

Done. --E tac 21:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I read your message incorectly, my bad. --E tac 21:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contact

FYI, I've sent you an email. alphachimp 23:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I don't understand this question

"Excuse my ignorance Armon, but would I be correct in saying that your sources below (and though email) can also apply in this matter (which is certainly implicitly related)?" Sorry Martin, I don't understand this question -can you clarify? <<-armon->> 23:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

responded on my talk -sorry I still don't get it. <<-armon->> 00:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Martin, I've responded to your question, not on my talk but on the Med page because it seemed like an appropriate place. Sorry in advance if that was wrong. BTW condolences for a bad week. <<-armon->> 13:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Rasillon

Hello. Can you remember our friend Professor Sunderland, and his billions of socks? I'm 99.9% confident he's back as User:Rasillon. So confident, that I've tagged him as such and blocked him. The pattern is very simialr... The JPStalk to me 18:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

lol... don't worry, I knew what you meant :) I'm glad you guys are coaching him. Could you pleeeease keep an eye on his image uploads? We really need to knock copyvios on the head. I'd really like some verification on the source of his existing uploads... perhaps ask him for the original files? The JPStalk to me 19:14, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] J Milburn- NPWatcher

Just a note to say that I would very much like to get hold of this tool, and that I have added myself to the request list. Thanks! J Milburn 17:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza

Martinp23, if me and User:Carcharoth came up with a list of pages that we'd probably like to review and potentially restore, as protected redirects with only the history available, would you be prepared to give it the once over and take it from there? Appreciate this mess is getting long and convoluted, but anything to put it to bed. I'm not interested in touching anything explicitly membership or governance related. Steve block Talk 16:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Archived Ref Desk page not up-to-date

In this edit the January 6 section disappeared from the Language reference desk page. The currently archived version is considerably older. I did not check whether perhaps some of the other archived days have similar problems.  --LambiamTalk 20:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the problem is more widespread; I also saw it at the Science desk.  --LambiamTalk 22:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Look for example at this edit. In the "yellow" text that is being removed you see the word "neutered" occurring in each of the eight(!) January 6 sections. However, in the archived version at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Science/2007 January 6 the word "neutered" does not occur at all. This archived version was created at 00:04, January 8, 2007 and has not been updated since. The last edit to the January 6 section at the Science desk, however, took place at 20:23, January 11, 2007 (UTC).  --LambiamTalk 23:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

You did not react to my last message. Do you agree there is a problem? Are you intending to do something about it?  --LambiamTalk 08:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

The page on NPWatcher mentioned that one should leave you a message on your talk page after adding oneself to the request list, so here's my message. I haven't looked to see what my edit count is, but if my edit count looks a little low, take into account that one, my favorite activity is newpage patrolling (which is why this tool caught my eye) so I've tagged a lot of pages as speedy deletes which get deleted and therefore don't count towards my edits, two, I'm contributing from a dial-up connection, and three, I've been working on detailed re-writes of certain biographies that survived AfD with a suggestion of cleanup (some pro gamers' biographies)recently, making one huge edit each rather than a lot of little ones. I have a firm grasp of policy and will not misuse the trust inherent in giving me access to the tool. I appreciate your time! J0lt C0la 04:22, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Committee

It is my pleasure to announce that after great consideration, you have been accepted as a member of the Mediation Committee. I encourage you to place the Mediation Committee page and Requests for Mediation on your watchlist, as well as the open tasks page, which will be updated as new cases are accepted. You may also (and are encouraged to) join the Committee's internal mailing list. (Please email me directly so I can confirm your email before subscribing it.) If you have any questions about how the committee functions, please feel free to ask me. Congratulations on becoming a member!

For the Mediation Committee, Essjay (Talk) 09:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

No problem. I don't often check that email and if the user had explained earlier on my talk page I wolud have removed it. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bees and inebriation

Do you have any comments on User talk:Filll/beedrunk??--Filll 19:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AMA

I am going to spend time trying to make the backlog in cases at AMA lower. I don't think that people should have to wait as long as they are for a advocate. Also congrats on becoming a member of MedCom. Have a nice week and god bless. --James, La gloria è a dio 21:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I have suggested Rfc twice now, as have others, as the appropriate venue for dealing with the type of concerns B has stated are her complaints. It was good of you to suggest it to her, as an uninvolved 3rd party. KillerChihuahua?!? 22:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail Disabled

I disabled my e-mail, and deleted my Gmail account since I am not participating in Wikiprojects anymore. Bearly541 23:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Brighteyes-live3-0205.jpg

Can you take a look at this image; Image:Brighteyes-live3-0205.jpg. It was taken from the link sourced, but it was a photography taken by Sylvia Korving, so I believe the copyright tag is incorrect. However, I don't know what to replace it with. This image was uploaded after I removed the previous picture on the page because it was replaceable, much like I think this is unless the photographer gives specific permission. I have asked the uploader, Stevesy (talk · contribs), to verify the image can be used, but also wanted to get your input. Thanks! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 00:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] .....IRPCS?

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thats a pretty good way of finding the rules of the road

Huh? Martinp23 11:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

Good morning (GMT time); I am requesting NPW access for NP patrol duties.

Kind regards,
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Good afternoon (GMT time); I am still getting the "you are not approved to use NPW" message when I load NPW - any suggestions? Anthonycfc [T • C] 14:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/January 2007/Sethie

I was wondering if you are interested in semi-taking over Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/January 2007/Sethie. I will be more than willing to offer you any help if you need it. Computerjoe's talk 10:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I ahve not looked through all edits in questino as there are too many. However, both parties seem to want mediation. I have offered TimidGuy and Sethie to go through WP:30. Sethie agreed, but TimidGuy did not. The next step would seem to be either a RfC or MedCab/Com case. Computerjoe's talk 12:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

Hello Martinp23. Per the intructions given here, I am informing you that I have added my name to the request list for NPWatcher. I hope you will consider approving me to use this tool. Thanks in advance. With regards, AnupamTalk 03:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Martinp23, thanks for approving me to use your tool and giving me the extra information on the releases of the program. I have thus added the page to my watchlist. Thanks again for all your help. With warm regards, AnupamTalk 23:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Odd edit

Any idea why RefDeskBot added the Jan 15 header in this edit (today, Jan 20)? -- Rick Block (talk) 22:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for the encouragement

I want to thank you for the barnstar and encouragement during my work on Bees and toxic chemicals. I think a lot of people were somewhat skeptical about how useful or interesting or scholarly it would be. So it is nice to know someone appreciated it, and that people are reading it and finding it interesting.--Filll 00:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPW

I've submitted many feature hints on NPW talk page, I hope they'll be useful ;-) by Snowolf (talk) on 10:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Juan Cole mediation

I've been involved with other things having nothing to do with WP, although I have been following the discussion on the JC mediation talk page. If it's OK with you, I would like to post some thoughts there in the next couple of days. It seems to make more sense to post them there rather than here, so that they would form part of the record of this mediation. --CSTAR 02:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cole Mediation

Thanks for all your good work on the Cole dispute. I'm adding my thoughts here instead of there, as per your request. Briefly, I would find wholly unsatisfactory any outcome in which Karsh's specific attack is included but not Cole's specific response. There are three objections to including Cole's response: the BLP objection, the RS objection, and what might be called the "false-specificity" objection. None of these is compelling enough to override the basic and self-evident issues of fair play and NPOV that are at stake. To go through them one at a time:

the BLP objection: The least serious. The argument that Cole's response is "name-calling" or "unencyclopedic" is very weak and subjective, and could just as plausibly (if not more plausibly) be said of the attacks he's responding to. In any case the argument that it is potentially defamatory to dismiss accusations as "outrageous" or even "beneath contempt" is silly. Maybe in North Korea it would be dicey to talk this way about Dear Leader, but the idea that Cole's words could be in any way actionable in any Western democracy is ludicrous.
the RS objection. Armon's argument has much more integrity than Isarig's here. Obviously there's no problem in quoting Cole's blog in order to present his opinion of attacks on his blog; the argument that "blogs aren't RS" has no merit in this case. But Armon brings up the possibility that Cole threw up this blogpost as a veiled solicitation of readers to go and "fix" his wikipedia entry, and that therefore the issue of meatpuppetry arises. It's a respectable argument though not a compelling one. First of all, it's not for us to speculate about Cole's veiled motives. His blog is one the most popular and award-winning blogs on the internet; Armon's comparison between Cole posting something on "Informed Comment" and Cole posting something on the Wikipedia talk pages is invalid. Secondly, while meatpuppetry can be a serious issue, we cannot hope to police the boundary between wikipedia and the world. A thought experiment: let's imagine for a moment that Cole is far more outraged that Karsh's slur is repeated in Wikipedia than he was about its appearance in the New Republic in the first place. Quite a likely scenario, actually, since the average informed person will take accusations of paranoid antisemitism with a grain of salt when they're levelled in Marty Peretz's magazine, but may well think where there's smoke there's fire if they read them in Wikipedia. In any case, so let's say Cole decides to sue for libel. The legal bar for libel is very high; let's say Cole knows he won't win but hopes to either 'scare' the information off of wikipedia, or, failing that, to get it reported in wikipedia that he sued Karsh and the New Republic for libel. If we have good reason to believe the veiled motive of Cole's lawsuit is "to directly provide 'balancing' content" on wikipedia, as Armon puts it, do we then not mention the libel suit in our article? Of course we mention it; we cannot police the boundary between Wikipedia and the world. This is a section on criticism of Cole's blog; Cole's responses on his blog is obviously acceptable, and we can't rule it out on the basis of hunches about motives.
the "false specificity" objection. This one says that we shouldn't turn this into Cole vs. Karsh, because the charge of antisemitism has broader currency, having been levelled by many. This argument is specious. First of all, the charge only has currency among a small handful of ideologically aligned writers in a small handful of ideologically aligned journals. Outside of this clique, Cole is a regular presence in the mainstream media, routinely called upon for his expertise and never accused of bigotry (much less conspiracy-minded paranoia). The broader context here is not that of regular charges of antisemitism being made against Cole; the broader context is, rather, regular charges of antisemitism being made by these sources against a wide variety of people with whom they disagree about Israeli policies in the occupied territories.
Secondly and more importantly, Karsh's argument is much more specific – different in both degree and kind – from the general charge of antisemitism. The "Protocols" represent antisemitism at its most vicious and paranoid; they were a notorious hoax calculated to create mass delusion and hysteria, and to alchemize this delusion and hysteria into violent bigotry and even pogrums. To say that the work of a prominent scholar of the Middle East "resonates powerfully" with the obsessions of this hoax is a far more serious charge than saying that this or that line of argument entails antisemitism. Cole's commentary on a speech by Larry Summers is in no way a proper substitute for his response to the attack by Karsh; to use it as such is, moreover, to engage in OR. Summers was talking about antisemitism "in effect if not intent," i.e. the most benign kind (if any kind of AS can be called benign), at the absolute opposite end of the antisemitism spectrum from the violent and hateful paranoias of the Protocols. The only thing beyond the Protocols on the virulent end of the AS spectrum would be Mein Kampf. Karsh is the only person anywhere to liken Cole's work to the Protocols, and it is self-evident that if we include such an unusual, extreme, and incendiary charge then we must include Cole's response to it, and not his take on very different, more general charges levelled by people other than Karsh against people other than Cole on other occasions.

One last thing. Isarig is anxious that we include Karsh's academic title and position in the body of the text, but not the name of the publication that ran his attack (if we include the name of the New Republic, he says, that will amount to "poisoning the well"). If Isarig prevails here, we will be giving the entirely misleading impression that an academic argument has been made about the powerful influence of the Protocols on Professor Cole's work. None has. No peer-review academic journal has printed or ever would print an article claiming this.

Thanks again, Martin. If you have any questions or want any clarifications, let me know. --G-Dett 19:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

1/19/07I'd be happy with the formula you suggested, as well the one Isarig sugggested a while back, which is being discussed anew under "Isarig's compromise" at the bottom of the mediation page. Well done mediating this thing – a hot topic with some heated editors including yours truly :). All best,--G-Dett 17:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to echo several of G-Dett's very well made points, specifically his her answers to the RS and BLP objections, which represent my feelings on those two aspects. I feel that preceding any efforts to compromise on language for the article is the notability of the charges themselves, which ought to be critically reflected upon. The charges represent a tiny minority and aren't biographical because no one contests their factual inaccuracy.

However, I recognize that stability and compromise are priorities. Still, compromise and consensus between editors of very different opinions is not always synonymous with "best for the article" or "conforms to guidlines". Though I am somewhat new here, I imagine that beyond playing nice with co-editors, an occasional guiding hand of definitive judgment is necessary, and that sober outside judgment is just as much solicited by parties seeking mediation as is compromise between their positions. But I recognize and appreciate efforts you have already made to do this with respect to uncivil/non relevant comments and the like, so you seem admirably aware of this.

The Karsh issue appears to be a one time op-ed that never became a reported controversy by a neutral third party (which distinguishes it from more legitimate controversies like, for instance, the Trump/O'Donnel feud or the O'Reilly/Letterman feud) and one editor specifically argued that this was notable as a controversy. If the charge is not biographical, it should at least be notable, but it appears to be neither and I imagine that alternative citations would run into the same problem.

But, barring consideration of this and instead looking for a compromise, I think your skeletal suggestion is agreeable, and I also think Isarig's most recent suggestion as discussed under "Isarig's Compromise" is agreeable. The later would be a happy resolution of a very long dispute, but in my opinion, the former might be slightly stronger in that it keeps the editors less directly involved in the contentious back and forth details of the situation they are trying to represent. It is more generalized, abstracted, and less likely to become contentious. Abbenm 04:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPW

I'd like to use it. In particular, I'd like to use it to watch for speedies that should NOT be deleted. DGG 16:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

This would be fantastic. I also think that there should be a checklist followed before an article is speedy-deleted (contact author, verify number of pages that link to the article under consideration, read talk page for author's reasoning and other editor's positive and supportive comments, etc) that the admin doing the deletion would have to sign off on. Also I would like to see records kept of which admin's speedies were disputed or found to not comform to the rules, or the assertions of the admin on the checklist found to be inaccurate. Therefore statistics would become available (on the theory that a little sunlight is the best disinfectant).--Filll 17:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible glitch in NPW

There might be a glitch in the New Page Watcher. I used the "test and warn" button in the Deletion tab to warn 63.166.111.6 (talk · contribs) about Help talk:Starting a new page/wiki/Talk:Main Page/. The test warning was left at User talk:63.166.111.6" anon=" (now deleted). If it happens with this user, it might happen with all IP talk pages. AecisBravado 23:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] MartinBotII on WP:PR

Hello Martin, I just noticed that your bot added the peer review for Cool World twice in a row. I tried looking for possible explantions of the error, but I couldn't locate any. APR t 01:13, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Uh-oh, look what happened this time, the PR instructions were broken by an accidental inclusion of a new PR. Looks like someone added a regular peer review to Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Peer review, which must have disrupted something. APR t 22:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Martin, I just created Wikipedia:Africa-related regional notice board/Peer review. I'm not sure if your bot will automatically pick up the new page through categories or if I need to tell you. Also, I noticed a relevant current PR and transcluded it to the board subpage. Given APR's comment above, I take it that this is very bad? - BanyanTree 18:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

H Martin, Thanks for your note. I'm a little confused by your note, or maybe I'm the one who is confusing you. My note above was about transcluding Wikipedia:Peer review/Amenhotep I/archive1 into Wikipedia:Africa-related regional notice board/Peer review. I did this before reading APR's post above about how transclusion of Wikipedia:Peer review/Ralphie/archive1 into Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Peer review may have broken the bot. If that is not the case, then there is no problem. Thanks for your assistance! - BanyanTree 22:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Oops, it looks like there is a problem. Amenhotep I was added a second time; it is currently both 1.89 and 1.10 on the TOC. Is it possible to modify the bot so it doesn't pick up nominations that are transcluded from other "root pages"? - BanyanTree 00:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPW

Can you add me please? I'd like to try the program out! I've been using VP, but it crashes way too often! Corpx 06:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Adding here because I don't want to make a separate section ;) I've been doing NP patrol..a lot. --Wooty Woot? contribs 01:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Favor

Will you please be a second advocate in Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/January 2007/Grandmaster? I will do most of the work but I think the more people I get unto this the better. Thanks. --James, La gloria è a dio 02:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template which you deleted

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Template:SerbiaFairUse. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 03:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I didn't close the discussion or speedily delete either of the templates :) Martinp23 14:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPW glitch

I attempted to db-band Chris Gilbreath. Unfortunately, after clicking "band", the program froze. It then said the page appears to have been deleted and refreshed, and it was still there (in NPW and Firefox). I'll let you know if this happens concurrently, it might just be a one time thing. --Wooty Woot? contribs 18:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

I added myself to the requested approval list. Yonatanh 19:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting bot again

Hello. If you could run User:MartinBotII/WPStability again at your convenience, it would be greatly appreciated. It looks like a lot of projects were created over the holiday season that I hadn't noticed until now. Badbilltucker 21:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher bug

Thanks for providning NPWatcher. I am beginnng to try it out and it seesm promising. Hwover, I just encountered the follwing bug: I selected the page NetApp Bangalore News and tagged it as NN checking also the 'Leave Firstarticle' check-box. The article was tagged correctly, but the Firstarticle note was not placed on the creators talk page User talk:Jhinuk.chowdhury (I set it manuallay) but on User talk:Jhinuk.chowdhury" minor=". Tikiwont 10:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image request

Hi, thanks for tagging Image:MC12 blue.JPG after I gained permission. I have another image (Image:Maserati MC12 Corsa.jpg) with permission and I have sent the email however I sent it on January 21 and the image hasn't been tagged. I was just hoping that you could tag it. I don't want to sound pushy and if there is a backlog or problem then please disregard this message. It's just it was handled so promptly last time and I'm thinking perhaps my email slipped through a gap or something. Thanks again, James086Talk 09:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I hope it I didn't skip any queues though. The wait is perfectl fine, I was just thinking the message may have been missed. This is a voluntary project after all so no-one can be blamed for a backlog. Also with your internet troubles I'm very grateful that you found the time to tag it. I'll be sure to thank the author. Thanks again. James086Talk 23:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ref Desk Bot

ummm, could you restart the ref desk bot. the science, humanities & misc sections are getting too big. --Parker007 00:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPW Logo license

Hi, can I ask on what license is the logo of NPW released? Thanks and Happy Editing by SnowolfTALK on 14:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I've uploaded it here. I'm using it to build a NPW userbox. Please set the right license on the image's page, or either delete it. Thanks and Happy Editing by SnowolfTALK on 14:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Finally created NPW Userbox & category. All info on NPW Talk page. Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk) on 15:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MartinBotII tests for Version 1.0 work

Hi Martin, I was wondering if we could continue the testing of MartinBotII for Version 1.0? Eyu100 has suggested getting rid of the linkranking and rewriting MartinBotII to incorporate a manual method of ranking, because of the bug we saw next time. I'm strongly against that, I'd rather fix the bug if we can and use the linkranking - do you think that is possible? What do you think?

I don't want to be a pest if you're busy, but I know a lot of people are holding their breath waiting for us to get this system working! It really looks to be the only way we will be able to produce something siginificantly better than Version 0.5. Please let me know if you have time to work on this and run some more tests - though of course I understand if you're too busy just now. Thanks a lot! Walkerma 17:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, now I know why things were quiet. I wish you well, trying to sort out things with BT. We can certainly try the manual WikiProject ranking scheme first, whatever you think is best. Let us know when you're back, and thanks, Walkerma 18:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] StabilityBot

Just a probably unnecessary reminder that it would be greatly appreciated if the bot listing all of the new projects would be run. Thanks again for all your work with this, your other bots, and your numerous other contributions. Badbilltucker 22:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Under the circumstances, you have no reason to be sorry for it. Circumstances beyond your capacity to control are not something you should feel sorry for. I hope everything gets back to normal there for you soon. Badbilltucker 17:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Juan Cole mediation...

could you come back and weigh in? Elizmr 22:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sethie AMA request

This request has been referred for investigation. Just thought you would want to know Geo. 17:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] New AMA

Thank you for your welcome messege. I look forward to take an account in tandem with a more experienced Wikipedia advocate. Please let me know who is willing to co-advocate with me. Prof.Sadiq 11:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Fe-day!!!

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Have a nice day!!! --GravityTalk 12:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Enjoy your day. I'd give you some Bosnian burek, but since you're “across the pond,” as they say, that's not really possible. Oh well. Cheers -   •The RSJ•   Talk | Sign Here 22:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPW Logo

I edited the page; also that image is extremely low quality. I would reupload it...However; I seem to have misplaced the original files...do you still have them? --SonicChao talk 23:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the bad quality, I've simply taken a screenshoot of the logo. Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk) on 12:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for NP

Hi, I've added my name to the request list for new page watcher and it also said to leave you a new message about this. Thanks Tellyaddict 21:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] NPWatcher feature request

Martin, I know you're not having an easy time getting online. I had planned to wait until you were fully available again to talk to you on IRC, but I figured that while you're offline, at least I could give you something to work on... to ease the Wikipedia withdrawls. ;)

Deletion tab:

  • Delete (attack) would be much better as Delete (attack) and warn. {{attack}} would work nicely for this. It only has one optional parameter: the attack page name.
  • Delete (R1) could be more descriptive, along with the other redirect CDS. How about Delete (R1 - no target) or Delete (R1 - non-existant)?
  • Delete (R2) -> Delete (R2 - user page)
  • Delete (R3) -> Delete (R3 - typo) or Delete (R3 - implausible)
  • A button for CSD G8 (talk page of non-existent article) perhaps? {{db-talk}} or {{csd-g8}} works.


Maintenance tab:

  • Mark with {{notenglish}} would be a great addition since {{db-foreign}} is only applicable for pages copied from non-English Wikipedias.
  • Mark with {{copyedit}} would be nice.
  • Mark with {{howto}} as well.
  • Mark with {{sections}} would be useful on 90% of newpages which aren't speedied. lol
  • Mark with {{introrewrite}} perhaps?
  • Mark with {{context}} or Mark with {{expert}}?

Hope it helps some! :) Enjoy thadius856talk|airports|neutrality 18:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, you're going to want and update the {{db-copyvio}} tag. It appears that the format is now {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.foo.com/bar}}. thadius856talk|airports|neutrality 22:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I appears that Delete (blanked) uses {{db-blank}}, which redirects to {{db-empty}}. I think you were looking for {{db-blanked}}. thadius856talk|airports|neutrality 20:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher!!!

I love NPWatcher - Patricknoddy 20:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:emot for deletion

I love how you used the original characters for the parameter, instead of a number, as in template smile. BTW, it's been up for quite a while. Template:Emot — Sebastian 04:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] RefDeskBot question

Are you aware that your RefDeskBot has made no edits since January 21?  --LambiamTalk 06:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher Request

Added myself to the NPWatcher request page OverlordQ 19:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emoticon leetness

:) - that way of making it appear similar to IRC is incredibly cool - well done! —Xyrael / 11:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher!!!

Dear If could Explain all option inside NPWatcher.I mean purpose of every option inside it .It will be helpful to me.waiting Khalidkhoso 21:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher Request

Hi there, I added myself to the NPWatcher request page. Thanks! --lightspeedchick 00:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

I'm interested in working with NPW on new page patrol...I'd appreciate approval.

Thanks!RideABicycle | Talk | 02:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

Request added. --IsleScapeTalk 15:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NP Watcher

Requesting add - RJASE1 Talk 00:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Trainz

Template:Trainz has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --FiggyBee 04:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Back online yet?

Hi Martin, hope you're OK. Has BT fixed your connection yet? We're just itching to get going with the MartinBotII work for the Wikipedia 1.0 project - but of course if you can't run the bot, we'll have to wait! Or pass the hat around to get you connected through someone else? Please let us know, thanks, Walkerma 22:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I just saw your frustrated update - I didn't mean to annoy you any more! Walkerma 22:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] User:RefDeskBot

Hi, I just found out you had this useful little bot. I was wondering if you could archive questions on the help desk only if they're older than three or maybe even four days. The page definitely needs archiving more often than it is currently, but two days seems just a tad too fast. What do you think? Xiner (talk, email) 00:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey !

Thanks for guiding me... I appreciate that. I really LOVE Wiki, it's just wonderful.

Actually, I am developing the following forums for the community benefit.

1. INDIA TALK BOARD - http://www.indiatalkboard.com

2. AP TALK BOARD - http://www.aptalkboard.com


There are individual forums on for every State, and City. So, I would be submitting those Message Boards at respective State / City links.

The aim of these forums is to connect all Indians, to interact with their own people.

I am still developing those forums, not yet completed... they are almost done.

Please take a look and let me know... it's a very legitimate informaltion, and useful tools for those people.

Thanks again Martin, reply me when you find time. :-) !!!


Cheers !

John. Toronto, Canada.

17:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

They look great - well done! Remember to sign wiki posts with ~~~~ so that users can see who left them. Martinp23 21:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Celsius dispute

Hi, I have a dispute with User:Greg_L over an edit in Celsius. My problem is less with the article than his intolerable, unsociable behavior. The user seems intent on provocation rather than discussion. His latest words in the Talk:Celsius tantamounts to a personal assault. In my talk page, he alleged that I have little right to correct an edit, citing my lack of an engineering degree.

Some of his comments borders on snobbish elitism. I do not want to be drawn in, but can you please educate this user on Wikipedia civility and democracy. His attacks on me are troll-like and is calculated at bullying and warring, not consensus. I stand by what I have to say about the subject. You can see if what I say is an improvement or a vandalism. Mandel 20:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I shall take a look soon Martinp23 21:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NP Watcher edit count

I think it'll be better if you change the edit count to this one. Unlike the current one, the edit counter doesn't lag.[1] [2] --K.Z Talk • Vandal • Contrib 07:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, K.Z... Well, Martinp23 is inactive, as you probably already know. I'll do it. I think he doesn't mind. Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk)CONCOI on 11:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Done. I've created a new template, user11, that include exactly what the past template did, but use the other editcount. Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk)CONCOI on 11:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
OK - thanks. My concern with Interiot's wannabe Kate tool was the time it takes for those with more contribs. The reason that the other one is out of date is due to toolserver replag, which should be reduced/eliminated in the next few months as the server gets upgraded, then we'll have quick and up to date edit counts. The system used doesn't really bother me, as I tend to do a manual contrib check, due to the time one tool takes, and the outdatedness of the other. Good work on the template, Snowolf. Martinp23 21:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
At the moment, the only tools that are working correctly seems Interiot's and Essjay's. If you prefer, there is no problem in switching to Essjay's, which should work faster. BTW, as you probably saw, I've created a simple template for warning users that their NPW application has been processed. Take a look at it. Of course, if you want to modify, you're welcome (NPW it's yours ;-) ).
Also, during your inactivity, I've modified the checkpage and the main page, see if the modifications are ok. Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk)CONCOI on 13:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] RefDeskBot

Is there anyway that you could publish the source code for RefDeskBot so that another user could take over for RefDeskBot until your internet connection gets back up? --VectorPotentialTalk 23:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I can't say if there's consensus, but there's this discussion. I'd settle for three days if necessary. Maybe I'll raise the question later. Xiner (talk, email) 21:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Werdna Bot & ref desk

Hi, there is a code for werdna bot to archive after 3 days for the following desks: Humanities, Science and Misc. Please remove the code after your bot makes everything up to date.

Wedna bot archived here:

Nice to see your bot finally back in action :). --Parker007 22:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the archiving, but I was in the process of responding to a Humanities Desk question posted 21:56 on Feb 27, "Reinforcing WWII Bombers" when it was yanked to the archives at 15:26 on March 1. That is 41 hours and 28 minutes. How soon are questions supposed to be archived? I would rather read them and respond to them on the main page than having to dig into the archives. Thanks! Edison 15:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed all the Werdnabot calls for now, since they were just complicating the issue, if they're needed at some point in the future they can always be re-added--VectorPotentialTalk 17:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] from the Juan Cole mediation page

Hey Martinp23, Thanks for the mediation attempt. Please take care and I hope all of your computer issues are resolved in the not too distant future. Elizmr 03:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ditto from me. Sorry, should have thanked you for your efforts sooner. <<-armon->> 02:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your thanks :). Good luck, and contact me if you need anything. Martinp23 22:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] problem with recent RefDeskBot activity

RefDeskBot isn't entering the last parameter (the year) on the navigation template, which is yielding an Error: invalid time parameter in place of the actual date--VectorPotentialTalk 20:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I've made a small change to your sandbox that should demonstrate the correct input parameters --VectorPotentialTalk 20:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I could have sworn it was only doing the invalid time thing on the help desk--VectorPotentialTalk 20:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

Should I go ahead and archive the February 21 on the Computing desk or it's better to wait for the bot? --cesarb 20:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be best (for me) if Feb 21st could stay on all of the desks, or that all of the desks have the 21st removed - all I'm concerned about is having the same number of days on each desk so that I don't confuse the bot when it comes back online :). Thanks, Martinp23 21:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I will keep February 21 unarchived then. It's easier to archive it later if needed than to go back and "unarchive" it. --cesarb 22:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Firstarticle

I've proposed a change to this template on its discussion page. You're involved in the template and I wanted your feedback before I did anything. Thanks! Darkspots 22:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inbox Alert

Good evening (GMT time); hope you're well. Kindly check out your inbox when you have a spare moment - I've emailed you on a Wikipedia matter.

Don't hesitate to drop me a talk page message, and please do reply to the email soon!

Kind regards,
Anthonycfc [T • C] 00:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

The Humanities, Miscellaneous, and Science desks had all already been archived by Werndnabot up through February 28th, I've therefore reintegrated all of these archives, and slapped a modified set of navigation templates on them to try and patch them together. This means that the new target for archiving the other desks is going to have to be up to March 1st, unless RefDeskBot can be assigned to run only on the remaining 4 desks to catch them up?--VectorPotentialTalk 22:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lots of work is done

Lots of comments have been made, please see the reference desk talk page :). --Parker007 23:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help Desk

Uh oh, RefDeskBot just blanked the header from the Help Desk--VectorPotentialTalk 00:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Correction, it somehow moved the transclusion above the header--VectorPotentialTalk 00:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I figured it was something like that--VectorPotentialTalk 01:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Any idea what's causing this? Is it the new template at the top of the page?--VectorPotentialTalk 01:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

That's odd, now the Invalid Time thing is happening again--VectorPotentialTalk 01:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

It may be time to shut down RefDeskBot for now until we can find out what's causing all of these bugs--VectorPotentialTalk 01:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] uh?

That can't be what you meant to do--VectorPotentialTalk 21:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indefblocked vandal

See WP:RFCU#indefblocked_vandal. Retiono Virginian 18:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Help desk archive navigation

If it's not too much to ask, can you look at Wikipedia talk:Help desk#Archive navigation again and possibly use MartinBotIII to fix it? Thanks! --WikiSlasher 07:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  • All fixed nevermind, only fixed back to the start of September --VectorPotentialTalk 13:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:HD Archive header monthly

Now requires a second parameter, month, year--VectorPotentialTalk 17:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

{{subst:HD Archive header monthly|March|2007}}

[edit] Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2006 October 22

Can you unprotect this page so I can correct the navigation template?--VectorPotentialTalk 17:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you--VectorPotentialTalk 17:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The daily headers

I couldn't find the answer anywhere, so I'll ask now: Are all daily headers for 2007 for the reference desks and help desk fixed and does the template RefDeskBot uses now use a year parameter for the individual days? (e.g. Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 January 2. Thanks in advance, --WikiSlasher 11:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Sign

Sign my book, please. °o°Smartie960°o°Smartie-Pants-So Smart 23:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MedBot

Thanks for the heads up ^demon[omg plz] 23:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject peer reviews and the bot

Quick question: how does the bot identify the links to copy over to the central listing? Does it pick up any new transclusion, or does it look for something in particular (e.g. "/Peer review/" in the subpage name, etc.)?

(The reason I'm curious is that WP:MILHIST has recently moved over to a consolidated review department that includes not only peer reviews but also FACs, FARs, etc. If we add {{WikiProject peer review}} to the page, will all of them get copied over to WP:PR, or is the bot sophisticated enough to only pick up the peer review subpages?) Kirill Lokshin 04:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frank R. Wallace

I don't know if it's appropriate for me to comment on the mediation page for this article, since I was not named as a party, but I strongly encourage you to read the talk page for the article as well as the AfD results for a related article which was supposed to have been merged into this one. Bridge & Tunnel keeps trying to link Frank R. Wallace to a historic version of that article to avoid the AfD results. He also seems very resistant to any suggestion that the contents of the article should have to comply with WP:ATT. PubliusFL 22:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Back

I'm back from my little break from wikipedia. I feel quite a bit better now. How are things for you? Have a nice week and god bless :) --James, La gloria è a dio 02:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:RFCU and clerks

Greetings! A recent change has been made in the clerking system at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser. There are no longer any obstacles to editors who wish to help out in this areas, as the standby list has now been deprecated. You were listed as a volunteer on the standby list before it was deprecated. If you are still interested in helping out in this area, please:

  • Consider adding yourself to the list of active clerks at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks.
  • In helping, please make sure you follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Procedures as it is very important to the process there to follow these instructions for smooth operation.
  • Please remember "Trust between the clerks and the checkusers is essential. Clerks who persistently make problematic comments on requests or otherwise violate decorum may be asked by the checkusers to cease contributing here."
  • Add Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Noticeboard to your watchlist to stay up to do date on the latest communications happening regarding this role.
  • "Be aware that this position is rather dull and carries no particular prestige; status-seeking will not be looked upon kindly."

I am not involved with the checkuser system. I am acting only to inform you of this change. Thank you. --Durin 14:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with MartinBotII

I have noticed that MartinBotII has a tendency to add the same transculsion file for Wikiproject peer reviews multiple times. For instance, In the March 2 run the bot added entries for "Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation", "Dreamgirls (film)", "Mr. Lady Records", and "The Hudsucker Proxy" despite the fact that these transclusion files were already listed at Wikipedia:Peer review at the time the addition was made. The request for "Toyota War" was also reinserted during this same edit after the request had previously been archived due to its having had no updates for more than 2 weeks (archival reason 2). Could you make appropriate corrections to your bot so that manual cleanup by myself or others is not longer needed after each run of the bot? --Allen3 talk 09:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

The issue of duplicate insertion is still occuring. The most recent case is the addition of Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/Feeder (band) at 12:00, March 10, 2007 (UTC) after the request had previously been added at 21:00, March 5, 2007 (UTC). --Allen3 talk 13:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suspected conflict of bot edits with non Latin Alphabet

Hi, I am not sure if it was your bot, Martinbot, or the vandal 65.73.0.75 but the letters not in the Latin alphabet got messed up in the article about Emerald Buddha.

I have fixed (or so it seems to me) the weirdness, by manually re-reverting to the edit by Filipo2.

As they say, anybody can make a mistake but to really foul things up you need a computer. --Drappel 20:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poetic Journals

The bot caught my switch of Poetic journal to Poetic Journal. For uniformity sake, I wanted to capitalize the J in "Journal". I will update linked sites ASAP. I was the creator of the site and I'm new to Wikipedia, so let me know if I've done something wrong. Thanks. Arianakrantzite 21:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism by your MartinBot

This edit reverted back to a vandal version. Dabbler 23:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talkpage archiving

Just doing the rounds of talkpages previously archived by EssjayBot III. Just to let you know that Misza13 has created MiszaBot III to perform the same function. You can request this Bot's services at User:MiszaBot/Archive requests. WjBscribe 01:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Theocracyband.jpg

Hey, I saw that this image was uploaded again; I am confused, since you said at Image talk:Theocracyband.jpg that permission needs to be granted first. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.94.135.252 (talk) 04:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] foreign language character bug

MartinBot changes foreign language characters to unknown symbols on pages that it reverts. --PhantomS 20:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

An example of bad bot reverting. -- Richard D. LeCour (talk/contribs) 16:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

That bug has already been fixed by Martinp23 yesterday; do you have any example of that after the fix? --cesarb 16:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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This is just a friendly reminder that Wikipedia Weekly has been released with a new episode..... 14!


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   * We wrap up the Essjay affair, as the famous Wikipedian cuts ties to the online encyclopedia.
   * A look at the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year Competition, which finished earlier this week. In addition, all the Featured Pictures of 2006 are available as a bittorrent download.
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   * 300 Spartans.


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[edit] Thanks :)

Thanks for welcoming me back to wikipedia :) Have a nice week and god bless :) --James, La gloria è a dio 22:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] timely manner?

Martinp23, may I ask, what do you consider a 'timely manner', as listed on your NPWatcher Checkpage? This is for the simple reason of when to start to nag you to approve me for it. Please could you provide an answer to my question, or do me a favor and edit the approved users list? Thank you. Stwalkerster 19:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Watcher

I think that your watcher article should be a new article. - Patricknoddy (talk · contribs) 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Toolserveraccount

Hello Martinp23,
please send your real-name, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to image:zedler-admins.png. We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism???

Your bot reverted my bot because of "vandalism", ironically I was actually trying to revert the vandalism, eventhough I messed it up at first (I got there in the end though), can you look at the Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones page please, is it more of my fault or the bots fault, thanks. Ashnard talk 07:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I wanted to modify Zfone entry in Comparison of VoIP software but it seems your bot did not want to, could check why I am wrong? thanks

Don't know, to be honest. I'll list it on the "false posiitves" page. Thanks, Martinp23 17:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MartinBot problem

Hi. Can you look into what went on in this edit? — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for reporting it. It seems to have been an edit conflict, but the bot should pick them up. My only other guess is that the Wikipedia software made a slight error in not noticing the edit conflict, or threw an error which confised the bot, making it resave the page. Hope this makes sense! Martinp23 17:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I have my doubts about that. The edit summary matches the action taken exactly, which means that it is unlikely to be a race condition. Given the volume of edits enwp gets, I doubt a mediawiki race condition would have survived this long; saving a page requires a write to a database, after all, which would act as a lock. It could be a bug in your bot code, of course, but every mediawiki bot framework I have seen handles edit conflicts gracefully.
I have a suspicion that it isn't a bug at all. Rather, it is an explicitly designed action triggered by the edit summary of the edit it was reverting. In this case, the summary contained a depiction of part of the vandalism, which might easily have matched a number of relevant regexps. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 21:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps, though in the past few days there has been a bug with edit conflicts caused by some DB problems. You're right to note that WP is a huge site, but as we get more edits, server load increases and the frequency of outages, problems and the dreaded "Wikipedia has a Problem" message increases. The bot uses pywikipedia for editing, and the bot often throws edit conflicts, hence it becoming my suspicion that it must be to do with WP, as there is nothing in the code that would allow this sort of thing to happen. The other possibility is that the edits were sent at exactly the same time, and both processed by WP in the wrong sort of order. For now, it's something that we'll never know, I think. Martinp23 21:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
For example, when I tried to edit just then, an edit conflict was thrown in my browser although no edit conflict had occured. I think it's this sort of thing which is causing the problems. Martinp23 21:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] your bot added a revert

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Morris

someone put up slanderous and liable info on a page which I removed but you Bot reverted it

That would be because you blanked the page, which the bot can interpret as vandalism. Martinp23 17:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turbo_Pascal&diff=114806539&oldid=114782225


Article edited by your bot. Seems like being vandalized.

Thanks - it seems to have been cleared up now Martinp23 18:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I Have tried to delete the "Arts Institute Bournemouth" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_Institute_Bournemouth page because there already is a page for it @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_Institute_at_Bournemouth.

OK, I've fixed that using a redirect. Martinp23 20:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?!?!

There are two pages for The Arts Institute at Bournemouth, however one of them is useless because it offers no real information and the link dosent work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_Institute_at_Bournemouth this is the correct one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_Institute_Bournemouth this is the useless one, the only difference is its missing "at". I was trying to delete the useless one so there would be no confusion. Im not vandalising it! Just fixing it so sort it out please! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.210.144.25 (talk) 20:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Wow that was quick! Thanks fixing the page! Im new to all this so cheers for the tip! Good work!

[edit] Bot reverted to vandalised version

Not sure why the bot thought this revert was a good idea... --Calair 22:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MartinBot

MartinBot keeps on beating me to vandalism :( Your bot is a major help towards the effort of fighting vandalism here at wikipedia :) Thanks for running it :) Have a nice week and god bless. --James, La gloria è a dio 22:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot nails legit modification

to: List of genetic disorders‎;

I put in the reasons for modification in the talk section, with citations, but I don't think the bot looks there.Ndaniels 22:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

I just wanted to apologize for the sarcasm I used in StewieBot's discussion, where I told you to read the description for vandalbot. I was slightly exasperated as I had just finished answering a similar but less in depth question in the bot requests page. Thanks for the IRC RC suggestion though, it looks like that's a better way to go. --D 17:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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