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[edit] Image tagging for Image:Th MySpace Secret Shows logo.jpg

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[edit] Reply

I'm not upset with you; learning Wikipedia's policies in the face of many experienced editors who are discussing removing your contributions is undoubtedly frustrating. My statement was that it has no third party sources, not that it's an advertisement. One good point in the discussion was that while MySpace and the bands are notable, the sponsorship of the shows by others through MySpace isn't necessarily notable. I'm sorry that you feel that your time has been wasted. Leebo T/C 22:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're saying some combination of "it should have an article because it has a fanbase" and "it should have an article because many other non-notable articles exist", neither of which are valid arguments. It's not that I "have it out" for your article. It came up on the log deletion discussions (there are hundreds every day) and I commented in it. I'm not running around blindly looking for articles to delete. You can see, I have contributed several new articles myself. I looked at the article and asked myself if it meets Wikipedia's policies and I felt it didn't and explained myself. If you disagree, that's fine, but I expect an argument ground in the same policies. Leebo T/C 22:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
People have done that to me (See:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DynaMed). It's called disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point. Leebo T/C 22:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I gave my opinion, I'm not sure what else there is to say. I'm not sure either why you singled me out to ask all of these questions, it wasn't me who nominated your article for deletion. I'm only one of many who commented. Leebo T/C 22:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

JuJube nominated the article. His comment is the one at the very top of the discussion. You may have noticed mine first because I bold my name in my signature, and as the first commenter I started my post with the bolded Delete (the nominator doesn't because it's assumed that he's saying Delete). It probably would have been courteous for him to leave you a note telling you the discussion was taking place, but there's not much that can be done about that now. Leebo T/C 22:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blanking the discussion

I'm not sure if you did this by accident, but make sure you don't do it again. The discussion is permanent and repeated removal of other editors comments will be considered vandalism. Leebo T/C 23:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The discussion has to go for 5 days before an administrator will close it. The AfD template may not be removed from the article. I have no say in this, it's Wikipedia policy. Someone else will reinstate the discussion if I don't. Leebo T/C 23:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joy Berry, Rancho Verde High School

  • Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and are immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. JuJube 00:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Pixar; this is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.--ZimZalaBim (talk) 00:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Your article is not a stub, it's spam. There's a difference. JuJube 21:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD at MySpace Secret Shows

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with MySpace Secret Shows. The notices and comments are needed to establish community consensus about the status of an article, and removing them is considered vandalism. If you oppose the deletion of an article, you may comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 00:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Regarding this edit:

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sign your comments, please

As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments and your user name or IP address and the date will be automatically added along with a timestamp. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Admin

Tell on the administrators? What are you referring to? If you are talking about how I struck your second "keep" !vote in the discussion, that's so that the administrator who closes it can tell that it wasn't 2 different people saying keep. Leebo T/C 22:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I just went back and looked at the discussion. I'm sorry I gave you a serious response. Your last comment crossed a line. Please do not message me again if you only wish to make uncivil comments. Leebo T/C 22:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MySpace Secret Shows

I've had to delete this page again as you recreated it shortly after it was deleted according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MySpace Secret Shows. If you wish to recreate this article, you should go through Deletion Review. When contributing to Wikipedia, please try to remain civil, it certainly stops people getting their backs up. -- Nick t 19:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Since the page was originally deleted via an AFD, it can be speedy deleted (that is, without warning) if the same content is posted again. That is what happened. If you strongly feel the article meets the notability requirements, then I would suggest that you open a request for the deletion to be reviewed at WP:DRV. Hope this helps.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Instructions to open a deletion review are listed at Wikipedia:Deletion_Review#Instructions. I'd gladly open a deletion review for you, but first you need to talk to the administrator who deleted the page, and voice your concerns with him. If you are able to convince him that the notability of the article meets those required by Wikipedia (See WP:N ), then he himself will undelete it.
Addendum: I see you've already contacted him. Please wait for his reply. I've copied the last revision temporarily to User:Martini833/MySpace Secret Shows, which you can work on meanwhile.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
An administrator's view is at par with that of a normal editor. Administrators just have access to a few more technical aspects of Wikipedia. As far as I can see, the article has a fair chance of being restored. However, many would recommend it to be merged into MySpace, no doubt.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
All right then. Go to Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 31 and edit the page to add the following at the end:
{{subst:Newdelrev|pg=MySpace Secret Shows|reason=REASON}}
where "REASON" should be replaced with the reason you request the article to be restored. Please remember to remain civil and not to attack the admin who deleted the page, or your views wouldn't be heard in a favourable light.
Ping me if you have any difficulties going about this. I'll be online for a few more minutes.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the fair use images from this page whilst it resides in user space (it's against policy). You'll need to remove the comments <!-- and --> to show the images again. -- Nick t 21:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but if you notice my userspace, you will see that I'm having certain issues that prevent me from interacting much with the community at present. Good luck with the deletion review.--thunderboltz(TALK) 06:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MySpace Secret Shows

In regards to your comment on my talk page, I've posted this reply and am copying it here for convenience:

I "wanted to delete both entries" since they had issues with third-party proven notability, as explained by numerous other editors on Wikipedia. Contrary to what you may think, if the article is recreated with these issues taken care of, I'll be very happy with it being here. *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 02:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
That already seems much better than the one that was deleted. I will admit that I have not been editing for too long, so I'm not proficient with images and things yet. I've mostly been doing wikify and cleanup. I'll be glad to check the article over for things like that (probably tomorrow). You might want to use <ref> ... </ref> tags in-line with each sentence you are attributing to that source URL, and then use <references /> in the References section. I think that would be more effective than a list at the bottom, especially given the notability arguments with the subject. If you decide to make it that way, I may be able to help with the code. *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 03:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It's ok i would do that when im done with itMartini833 03:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] April 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Unfortunately, an article you recently created, MySpace Events, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new articles, so it will shortly be removed (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do and please read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you. Real96 05:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

You have recently recreated or reposted material at List of MySpace Events which previously was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not recreate this article without prior approval from an administrator or you may be blocked from editing. We ask that you respect what Wikipedia is not. If you disagree with the article's deletion, you may seek an independent deletion review. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 08:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't recreate deleted material

As you did at List of MySpace Events. If you disagree with the deletion, list it at WP:DRV.--Isotope23 16:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Like I said before, the correct place to contest the deletion of an article is at deletion review.--Isotope23 19:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

and thts wat i did... Martini833 19:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] list of MySpace Events

In reply to comment on my talk page: Honestly, I think that any and all mention of other pages that you've fought other editors over - such as that list - should be kept out of the ongoing AfD for MySpace Events. Sometimes other editors will get distracted over related things that they disagree with, and it causes a lot of negative impact on the decision of whether to "Delete" or "Keep". Other than that, I think you should probably not fight the editors on the subject - if MySpace Events passes the AfD, after so much hard work and argument, maybe it's best to let the list go. I'm not saying that it wasn't a valid contribution, but it doesn't have as much content as the main article, and lists seem to be generally discouraged here. *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 19:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MySpace Events

From the history, the AfD debate was closed as a deletion by admin Ian Manka (talk ยท contribs). He didn't participate in the discussion because that is how it works here. Admins who participate in an AfD discussion should not close them as keep or delete because that would be a conflict of interest. AfD's should be closed by a neutral admin who reads all of the opinions and makes a decision. If you disagree with this decision, you can open another deletion review for this article.--Isotope23 20:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

In reply to the comment on my talk page: The article was deleted because enough people voted to delete it in the AfD, which can be read here. I personally don't think there was a consensus to do so, but it's up to the person that reads through the arguments and closes it to decide. Please do not recreate this article under that name or any other. It is important that you follow this policy, because future contributions of yours will be more likely to be looked down upon if other editors think you are trying to bend the rules. I think that the AfD failed in the first place because everyone was so busy worrying about previous attempts you had made to create this article, under different names. Please keep that in mind, and add the material to the main MySpace article. *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 22:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Also in reply to your message on my talkpage... I can't (or more accurately shouldn't) just revert a deletion unilaterally. Admins overturning other admin's decisions without any discussion is called wheel warring and it is strongly discouraged. I'd let the deletion review run course; from the looks of it the MySpace Events deletion is going to be overturned there so the article will be restored anyway.--Isotope23 00:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No problem

In the future, you might want to just report something like this an WP:ANI right away instead of miving to temporarily created pages... it makes more work for the admin to clean up.--Isotope23 01:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Pixar Emps

As I've stated before, I'm *against* Ratz being listed as a Pixar employee on the template. He is a voice actor (and has become relatively minor in his Pixar roles as of late). To put him in the template would elevate him above other Pixar notable people, which I think would be incorrect. SpikeJones 00:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on List of MySpace Events, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as articles for deletion. If you can indicate how List of MySpace Events is different from the previously posted material, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{hangon}} underneath the other template on the article, and also put a note on Talk:List of MySpace Events saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we request you to follow these instructions. --Finngall talk 23:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MySpace Events

Please do any rewrites in your user space sandbox. These articles have been deleted 6 times and 4 times respectively, the last several times as exact copies of articles that were deleted at AfD... which is why I protected them from recreation. You should probably create articles on these topics off line or in your own userspace.--Isotope23 19:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

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