User talk:MarshalN20

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Hello, MarshalN20, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  // laughing man 01:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much laughing man. Yes, I don't remember ever getting a formal welcome ( :D ). Well, yes, I'm hoping to stay and help Wikipedia with the articles. I know many people think Wikipedia isn't really much of a reliable network, but what many don't know is that it's actually one of the better-places out there to find some sort of information. I mean, just because it doesn't have some source to validate a statement, it doesn't mean it's false. It just means there's a chance it's not true ( ;) ). Thank you once more for the welcome. MarshalN20 11:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Peru national football team

Hello. Congratulations on your efforts to improve the article on the Peruvian national football team. For further improvement and suggestions you might want to submit it for peer review at Wikipedia:WikiProject Peru/Peer review. I'm sure members of the project will be glad to help. Greetings, --Victor12 17:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I can do it for you if you want. Just write a short introduction for the article and post it in my talk page. Greetings, --Victor12 18:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Done! You might want to add Wikipedia:WikiProject Peru/Peer review/Peru national football team to your watchlist so that you'll know when comments arrive. --Victor12 19:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bolivar

Hi MarshalN20 - I apologize for cavalierly reverting the edit you just made to Bolivar, and if you restore it I won't take it out again. But I really think it needs to be re-written in encyclopedia style, something like, "Some scholars, on the other hand, have questioned..." Llajwa 00:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problems

I did what the peer review suggested. Also, I mostly work on articles that don't attract a lot of attention, so not using the talk page is something I'm used to because there's a good chance that no one will respond in months. I apologize for the big edit. I also did not know that the Peru national football team was so active. I hope you can understand and that I will use the talk page for major edits in the future. --MicroX 21:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quechua

Hi, Marshal. I'm glad to see you added some references, but there are a number of problems.

First, the Incas did not impose Quechua universally. This is easily seen from the fact that Aymara is widespread in former Inca territory. Bruce Mannheim's The Language of the Inka since the European Invasion explains the linguistic diversity of the Inca empire (which for most regions only lasted about a hundred years).

"Historians" don't talk about "Original Quechua"; that's Paul Heggarty term, and he is a linguist (a very good one, and a Wikipedia contributor). Most linguists would say Proto-Quechua. The thing is, Proto-Quechua was not spoken in Inca times; the divergence between Central and Peripheral Quechua predates them by centuries.

Most importantly, the Incas spoke an early form of Southern Quechua. They did not spread this to central Peru because central Peru already spoke Quechua. Quechua I is not any sort of "slang" or the result of previous languages. It is the Quechua heartland. For more see Lyle Campbell's American Indian Languages or Rodolfo Cerrón-Palomino's Lingüística Quechua. Also see Paul's excellent page on myths about Quechua: http://www.quechua.org.uk/Eng/Main/i_MYTHS.HTM

Thus, the diversity of Quechua does not result from the spread of the Incas. The Incas did spread their form of Quechua. The Spanish spread it further. If you look at the map on the Quechua page, the II-B and II-C areas (outside southern Peru) are where they expanded the empire and spread their own dialect.

Finally, there isn't any evidence that the "ruling elite" remained closer to Cusco dialect. The areas that remained closer to Cusco dialect are simply those that were most recently conquered. Zompist (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)