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Weißenburg in Bayern

Hi Markussep!

I've seen your interest in other ß-related votes and thought you might be interested in this one: Talk:Weissenburg in Bayern. Currently there are four votes for moving to Weißenburg in Bayern.

- Haukur Þorgeirsson 22:04, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

List of cities in Germany

Thank you for doing a lot of the work I needed to do after moving this page over (I will still try but it can be a bit time consuming). I hope you agree that the German Wiki's version is better than the incomplete and spread out version we had earlier. I also think it is at the very least important that the German Wikipedia's titles all be redirects on the English Wiki. Best, Tfine80 00:32, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Weißenburg in Bayern

hello there, terribly sorry to disturb you with this topic, but there is a new vote Talk:Weissenburg in Bayern on finally renaming it to Weißenburg in Bayern and since you have shown previous interested, I just thought I'd let you know what is going on... with kind regards. Gryffindor 22:46, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

German Wikipedians' noticeboard

Hello Markussep! Since you are interested in the Holy Roman Empire, you might be interested in the recently-created noticeboard for articles concerning German-related topics. Feel free to participate with the project if you are interested! Olessi 01:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Moving German towns

Hi, I've looked only at German town in the English wiki and they seem to, for the most part follow the "in brackets" convention. That's why I kept with it and changed what I'm working on to that convention. I really don't care one way or the other but if we want to bo with the comma then we should change all the other brackets to that convention and there seem to be a lot of those as well. --Mmounties 19:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Wanna help prep Sanssouci for FAC?

Hi Last Malthusian, I've promised User:Trebor27trebor to help him turn the red links in this very good article into blue links. That's pretty much the only thing that's keeping the article from having a chance at becoming a FAC. I've asked him to list the needed articles on the Sanssouci Talk page so that we can share the work. He's completed the list and I thought it would be terrific if you'd decide to take part in the effort and help us with one or two of them. What do you say? --Mmounties (Talk) 04:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Rhineland-Palatinate etc.

Just to let you know (and in case you hadn't noticed already) I have just split {{Germany-geo-stub}} into a number of Bundesland-specific tags, including {{RhinelandPalatinate-geo-stub}}. --Stemonitis 16:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Kirchheimbolanden

Hi, I don't understand your change to the Kirchheimbolanden articles. One was about the town, and one was about the Verbandsgemeinde (previously Kirchheimbolanden (region)). I'm not sure why they were merged to one article. Don't you think they are two separate things and should have two separate articles, or am I missing something? Either way, thanks for working to make the Wikipedia better. -- Reinyday, 20:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Reinyday, I merged them because they're very much related to each other. I don't think the individual municipalities (Ortsgemeinden) in Rhineland-Palatinate will get their own articles soon (like in German wikipedia). I think it's better to keep information about the settlements within a Verbandsgemeinde together in one article. Of course if one settlement is particularly notable, it deserves a separate article. Markussep 20:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to restore them. Many small municipalities have their own articles. -- Reinyday, 05:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
If you think 2 is many... Why couldn't the information that's currently in the articles Kirchheimbolanden and Stetten (Kirchheimbolanden) be in one article? Anyway, the term "region" is already in use for the much bigger Regierungsbezirke, if you want to keep a separate article about the Verbandsgemeinde I suggest you move it to "Verbandsgemeinde Kirchheimbolanden" or "Kirchheimbolanden (Verbandsgemeinde)". BTW where did you find the information about Stetten suffering from the 1866 Austro-Prussian war? That's completely new to me, I would expect more from the 1688-1697 Nine Years War. Markussep 10:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
There are hundreds or perhaps thousands of small municipalities with their own articles in the Wikipedia. The current information could be in one article, but my hope is that people who know about the region will expand each article to its full capacity. I moved the larger article to Kirchheimbolanden (administrative unit). As for Stetten, all of my notes are packed from when I moved last year, so please feel free to remove the war information if you think it is incorrect. And again, thanks for your efforts to make the Wikipedia a better place. -- Reinyday, 19:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Saarland stubs

I don't think there are enough Saarland geographical stubs to reach the threshold for their own stub category yet. However, you seem to be working on a block of them, and I thought you might know if you're likely to reach 60 before you finish. In that case, I think it would be alright for us to create {{Saarland-geo-stub}} straight away. Will you be making another 15 or so? --Stemonitis 09:11, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Weißenburg

I don't mean to be unreasonable, and I certainly wish the anon with his "ß is illegal" would go away. However, I would like to see evidence of Weißenburg in Bayern as French usage; it's Wissembourg in Alsace. Septentrionalis 23:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Really, Markussep, I did not mean to suggest that the Weissenburgs in Alsace and Bavaria were the same place, but they do have the same name.

As for fr:Meißen:

  • I do not regard the French wikipedia as establishing French usage, any more than the English wikipedia necessarily reflects English usage (or, for that matter, English grammar <sigh>).
  • For what it is worth, the article was originally written at Meissen and the article text is still so spelled; it was moved by a user called Kelson, whose real name appears to be Emmanuel Engelhart.
  • I do think that "nationalism" is the right term for the claim that the English WP should use foreign names for foreign places, while no foreign wikipedia uses English names for English-speaking places (see, for example the translations of London and United States).
    • If you can suggest a more civil term, please do.

But I will get back to you when I have found some French books on Germany.

I see we agree on the principles, even if we weight them differently. I think demonstrable English usage should usually be decisive on en.wikipedia; and I happen to disagree about Geissen, a place of some importance in economic history, and therefore often mentioned in English. But I'm not sufficiently concerned about Geißen to make a move proposal. Septentrionalis 22:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Town DE

He There. It seams Template:Infobox Town DE is broken, check if you can fix it please. Thnx, Mariano(t/c) 14:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I second Marianocecowski's wish! --Ghormax 20:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

well it seams one of the templates used by the Infobox Town DE was corrupted, and has been fixed. If I properly recall, the problem was with the coordinates, that didn't show right. I got part of the URL for kvaleberg a text, but now its OK. Thnx. Mariano(t/c) 05:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Meißen

Hi, you just moved Meißen to Meissen. Before you do something like that, you should submit it at Wikipedia:Requested moves. There has been a lot of discussion about replacing characters in proper names, that are part of the extended Latin alphabet, like ß, ð and þ. There is no consensus about that, see Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#Disputed_issues. I suppose that means you shouldn't move this page unilaterally. I'll move it back. Markussep 13:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

People who want article names in German can use the German Wikipedia. Piccadilly 23:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
What nonsense! Have you read anything I wrote above? 1. Discuss moves like this before you do them. 2. Meißen nor Meissen is English, it's a town in Germany, and you can't decide on your own what the common English name is. Markussep 08:22, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
What garbage! This is the English Wikipedia and it should be written in English. There is not one English word with that letter in its common name because it is not used in English. It is completely illegitimate to suggest that there is any need to decide on a case by case basis. Non native speakers who try to use Wikipedia to bend the English language should be banned from Wikipedia. You have no more right to tell us how to write English than we have to tell you how to write Dutch. The difference is that there are a lot of non-native speakers trying to manipulate the English wikipedia, but probably very few non-native Dutch speakers on the Dutch one. Piccadilly 15:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

New Germany related stubs

If you want, you can announce them at Portal:Germany/New article announcements (I just did so for Staufenberg, Lower Saxony, Rosdorf, Gleichen, Lower Saxony, and Friedland, Lower Saxony). Thank you for adding these articles! Kusma (討論) 14:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

And I announced more, now also on Portal:Germany. Thank you for all these stubs! Kusma (討論) 21:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Werder (Havel)

Hi. I changed the category back to Cities in Brandenburg. Werder's official website lists itself as a city [1]. If you know of something confirming that it is a town and not a city, of course I will not object. Note that if that change does become necessary, the template {{Germany districts brandenburg}} will also have to be changed.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Holzgerlingen

The new infobox you placed at the Holzgerlingen article doens't allow for Imperial units of measure to be used. As a resident of the United States, I am completely unfamiliar with most metric units (I know what they are, but don't have any experience using them). Most US residents share my inability, and I would appreciate if the infobox could be amended. Sorry to cause trouble on behalf of Imperial units, RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 19:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I put the original infobox back, but I eagerly await your version, because it looks better and clutters the page less. Thanks! RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 20:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Excellent, I like it very much. Thank you for the quick reply, and civil conduct. I've had to vouch for Imperial unit inclusion before, and I have frequently received an icy reception from high-minded Metric users. Thank you for the excellent template and friendly interaction. Happy to be of help, RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 21:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

German places

Thanks for sorting out the table. I didn't realise I'd converted all the Schleswig-Holstein places to Saarland. --Stemonitis 07:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Helmbrechts

Was on my todo list for a long time - thanks Agathoclea 15:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Wassertrüdingen

Are you still working on it? If not I would start it.--Tresckow 04:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Infobox Town DE imp

Template:Infobox Town DE imp has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Bob 22:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Seesen

You started Seesen. I just cleared the talk page which was filed with what seems a screen-scrape copy of the article. But the article itself is only a stub. You will need to check the history of the talkpage. Agathoclea 11:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Germany WikiProject

Hi Markussep,

as you are the creator of hundreds of stubs about German towns, I would like to invite you to participate at WikiProject Germany. I think we should have a project subpage with a joint effort to create and expand articles on all German municipalities, and make sure they have infoboxes, coats of arms etc. Perhaps it would be a good idea to create a task force and use special switches in the project template to categorize (and eventually improve) bad articles and track changes. If you would like to participate, please add your name to the list and comment on the possible organization of a municipalities status page at the project talk page. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 23:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Germany

Welcome, Markussep, to the WikiProject Germany! Please direct any questions about the project to its talk page. If you create new articles on Germany-related topics, please list them at our announcement page and tag their talk page with our project template {{WikiProject Germany}}. A few features that you might find helpful:

  • The project's Navigation box points to most of the pages in the project that might be of use to you.
  • Most of the important discussions related to the project take place on the project's main talk page; you may find it useful to watchlist it.
  • We've developed a number of guidelines for names, titles, and other things to standardize our articles and make interlinking easier that you may find useful.

Here are some tasks you can do:

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me or any of the more experienced members of the project, and we'll be very happy to help you. Again, welcome, and thank you for joining this project! Kusma (討論) 22:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Palatinate

As you have provided input on this subject in the past, you may be interested in move requests at Talk:Palatinate of the Rhine and Talk:Palatinate. Cheers, Olessi 17:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Historical Eastern Germany

Perhaps you'd be interested in this:Talk:Historical_Eastern_Germany#Requested_move. -- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 05:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Bad Iburg

Hello, Markus,
you started Bad Iburg last year, thank you so much. I added some information and the city box but do not know how to ad the map that already exists in de:WP. Do you manage to help, please? Freundliche Grüße --MrsMyer 16:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your support. I just copied an infobox from of the other articles about places near Osnabrück. So I did'nt know there is a new one. Somehow I feel that information about what to do in en:WP is not easily to be found.
Well, all new informations in Bad Iburg are a rough summary and translation from my first article I startet in de:WP about Schloss und Benediktinerabtei Iburg. Of course there is a lot of information about the city itself still missing in en:WP - but sometimes I'm simply missing the words and do not know how to translate precisely. And for the momment I'm busy with the de:writing competition for which I started an article about Heinrich Babender, a sculptor from [Münster]] (1475-1537), and his son Johann Brabender. Quite a challenge.
By the way: Can you give an example how to link from en:WP to de.WP oder vice versa? I would like to link my en:Usertalk to my german one because I don't look here very often. Kindest regards, a lovely weekend --MrsMyer 12:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much again - I'll think about what to do best. --MrsMyer 12:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

german territories

Thank you for helping me. Thw1309 18:10, 28 March 2007

German templates

I was going from the lists on the district pages, but I found that they were incomplete, so I started updating them from the German templates. I'm afraid I didn't get very far on that before I got side-tracked into doing the same thing for Austria. Go for it! Ksnow 14:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)Ksnow Use the German Wikipedia site as a source. It is pretty current. Ksnow 14:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)Ksnow

May 2007 edition of the WikiProject Germany newsletter

The Germany WikiProject Newsletter
Issue I - May 2007
From the editor

This is the first issue of WikiProject Germany's newsletter. The newsletter is intended to help all members of the project to keep up with new developments and coordinate new collaborative efforts.
Other areas where you can help
  • Assessment requests: Some open Requests for assessment need to be answered. To see new assessment requests as they come in, you can watchlist the assessment page.
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Be creative! If you have an idea, just suggest it on the project talk page (don't forget to watchlist it).

  • Categorization: Uncategorized Germany stubs need to be categorized
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  • Criteria for B-Class status: The assessment criteria for B-Class have been changed. {{WikiProject Germany}} template now has 5 switches, B-Class-1 through B-Class-5 that correspond to 5 easily checked criteria that an article should meet to be assessed as B-Class. The advantage of this system is that now there is a clear boundary between Start-Class and B-Class articles. Authors of articles that were assessed as Start-Class now get more direct feedback what they should improve to attain a B-Class rating.

All of our B-Class, Start-Class and Stub-Class articles now need to be checked whether they meet any of the B-Class criteria. This is a major effort, and we need your help! If you want to help, but don't know how, please post at the project talkpage.

  • Cities and municipalities task force

A task force dedicated to creating and improving articles on all German cities and municipalities has been started and is looking for help.

This newsletter was delivered by Kusma using AWB to all members of WikiProject Germany. If you do not want to receive this newsletter in the future, please leave a note at the talk page of the Outreach department so we can come up with a better spamlist solution. Thank you, Kusma 12:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Same name

I think we agree on what the substance of the question is, and are using different words to express it; possibly combined with the metaphysical question of whether esszett is the "same letter" as ss/sz.

I'm not sure we agree on the answer: My point of view is that Meissen resembles the question of Istanbul or İstanbul; and that we should use Istanbul: nationalists and pedants want İstanbul. Your results may vary. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

See the related discussion at Talk:Berliner Weisse, where I also give a non-comprehensive list of articles with a potential scharfes es in the title.  Andreas  (T) 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
My position, btw, is not that ß is never English usage, but that it's not English usage here - or in Wilhelmstrasse - or Richard Strauss. German usage should of course govern the de: Wikipedia. (Talk:Wilhelmstrasse links to an interesting survey on the English practice on the matter.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Missing German municipalities

Hi Mark - I've noticed we have both been stubbing German municipalities - I was shocked to see so many missing articles - all the places in Germany should be mapped out asap. I have found though that you can copy and paste the info in the German infoboxes staright into the english one - please see Roßbach, Neuwied. The infobox makes the stubs twenty times better. I am trying to ensure that every arrticle on a German municipality has a standard info bo xlike this -please can you use and info box from now on - it only takes about ten seconds longer per article . Hope you are well ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 17:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey there's no rush at all - but I wish there was more people who would help. - we can add a few every day or two and I'm sure it'll be done in no time at all. They are smaller places after all -its not as if Berlin is missing is it?!! Hey I've spent the last hour or so browsing articles on space exploration, rockets and airliners with all the cool images of space-this really is some unique project isn't it - its like reading NASA secret documents - every intricate of detail is given - of course all the images are public domain. The more you browse the more you realise how ginormous this is -but imagine how many articles are still missing and how many there could possibly be!!!!! Give this ten years and this will be something phenonemal. The potential of wikipedia is endless. Anyway just drooling over it!!!! Hope you are well, ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

If you do want some help with that I suggest you make a worklist of missing municipalities as a subpage of WP:GER and point the members to it. I am sure that will created quite some drive-by article creation. BTW as both of you create these articles could you also place the project banner on the talkpage - the articles will get some more attention that way. Agathoclea 17:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
A little more work ahead see this Agathoclea 14:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I moved your reply and my answer to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany/Cities/Saxony-Anhalt

Wow you beat me to it by about 3 seconds!!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you add the municips to the main Birkenfeld (district) and I'll make a start on the next. Its a drab rainy day here so I may as well do what I can while I am in the mood . PLease respond ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

As I said you beat me to it with the misses I had already altered several and was going to complete it. Yes I've just started the next one its huge but is not a good look for wikipedia is it with all those red links!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed the doubles first before I start so that you don't feel you have to clean up after me. You may want to fill in the disamb pages a bit more though. Here we go!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 15:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with stubbing, I mean this in the nicest possible way - its just I'm wondering why you are so against using the info box which provides information especially when it can be done in seconds. Even if it takes a little longer it is much more worth doing -there is a big difference betwene the stubs which show all the info and location and the one liners -maybe you don't have the time but -as it is the stubs you created don't provide any information to anybody. I or someone else will have to go through the stubs you have created and add the info boxes anyway - so if you can do it initially it would save a lot of time. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:44, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes that does occur occasionally - on those articles I have mostly not added an info box at all as it was messed up. Most of fine. Hey its fine to stub to them its just I was thinking in the long term. Really the priority should be as you said to rid of the red links. -it'll all get done eventually anyway ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 12:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow good progress - you're shooting through those districts -luckily most are not over 2225 municips like the one I'm on -leave that one to me I'll finish it eventually ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Good consistent work particularly today. Yes I'd like to see the states of Germany all with full decent articles like the main Germany article. For some reason often there appears to be a distinct lack of detail on provinvial articles on wikipedia but full articles on small towns etc. As you may know my work on wikipedia covers many topics mostly film-rleeated work but I'm glad to help out in a geo area I see not fully covered and I'll keep my word to finish that big district and maybe stub a few others. Have a great break (Greece?????!!!) -just joking - if you are taking a breather and I look forward to hearing from you. Saludis de Tu amigo calvo (your bald friend) 21:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I've added a few more today. Let me know how far you've got - is Rhineland-Palatinate complete after the district I'm working on? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

OK great!!! I see what's been done -its pretty tiresome after a while isn't it -!!! -we could really lend a hand from others of the WP Germany force - good progress anyway. Regards -hope you are good ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see that User:Extrala is also doing some great work!! We should get it done soon enough ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Spalt

My name is Hogan, from the USA, and I have made several additions to your article on Spalt. Most of it has been simply translating everything from the German page onto the English page. I hope that I have time to finish translation, and I have already completed 5 sections. Would you mind looking over the article? Click here for the page 30 June 2007