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Waidhaus
Hi MarkBA,
I noticed you recently created the article about Waidhaus. I just wanted to inform you that you can post any new Germany-related articles at Portal:Germany/New article announcements and Portal:Germany/New articles. Happy editing--CarabinieriTTaallkk 11:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
SLOVAKIA
HI I am currently working on Slovakian vilages and I compiled the List of villages and municipalities in Slovakia. I am about half the way through I would be extremely grateful if you would help out. It would get done so much quicker and I would have motivation because at present I seem like the only one on the planet interested in mapping it out. See Kojatice for the layout. The info can be quickly retrieved from the external link. Click on the district and it will list the municipalities. Click the one you want and it will come up with loads of basic info. To start with I am just copying the first page History and Geography and adding them to the starter articles. Then I cut and paste every page -quicker and just adjust the info. Want to help out? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Excellent work nicely completed.
Indexing
Nyangaard is talking about indexing. Which I was well aware of a minor task to do once all the villages are done if for instance a village begins with č example: the village is called česky. in the category index this will not be a c but will be listed after z as a č. To sort this it should be Category:Villages and muncipalities in Snina District|cesky - english written in.
Boldfacing in articles
Hi MarkBA. Only the title of an article should be boldfaced. Please seeWikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)#Boldface. I have gone through some of the many stubs you have created removing the boldfacing from other words in the introduction but wow you have created a lot of stubs!. As I imagine you will be creating many more, please incorporate this change into your formatting. Thanks.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
WELL DONE!!
Have a breather now! As you live in Bratislava I assume that Slovak is your first language. Your written english does seem very good but how are you on writing? What do you plan to do next because although the geo stubs have been started, many in the Banska Bystrica and others are sub stubs still and have no info. Each village on that website has a lot of other basic details such as economic facilities, government offices, population characteristics , sport, culture and transport details which I was doing on every article about half the way throguh Slovakia but was taking too long. for example Čaňa. Each village I think has its own website with a mass of info on them but it is in Slovak. ALso check out Hungary and Romania. Practically both countries are empty in their village entries and I think Czech Republic is only about 1/4 covered. I see though that you plan on doing motorways in Czech Republic? Either way your help has been terrific but let me know what you want to do. I will be concentrating on film now but if you are willing to continue with villages which really do need sorting out I will give you help along the way. All the best and again congratualtions!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
HUNGARY
OK I have checked Hungary. Have a look at the main page. The main regions are:
- Western Transdanubia
- Southern Transdanubia
- Central Transdanubia
- Central Hungary
- Northern Hungary
- Northern Great Plain
- Southern Great Plain
But counties divide up the country administation. I have started Bácsborsód which is a large village and municipality in Bács-Kiskun county.
Have a look then at the Bács-Kiskun page. You'll see all the missing villages. Basic info can be taken from hungarian wikipedia. Do you have any idea what population means in hungarian have a look on hungarian wikipedia. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 19:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
What does population mean in Hungarian? Is it Összesen which I think it is , Irányítószám or Körzethívószám
Have a look at the county box of the villages at the bottom of Bácsborsód. It looks a mess. Unlike Slovakia have they never heard of an alphabet? I think sometime I will alphabet them before starting them. What do you think? I'm sounding like Nyangaard!!Ernst Stavro Blofeld 19:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
If you browse through other counties and other regions who will see what a bad state Hungary is in. This needs sorting out man! Practically all of the villages are missing and the ones that exist don't have a map or any pointer to where in Hungary it is. Every article even if only a stub needs to tell the reader where it is. this is the whole point of geo articles initially. Most of the existing ones I wouldn't have a clue where they were.
I have set up Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok county. Berekfürdő should be used as a starter. I'm having a longish break now. See you later. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I have now completed all the navigation boxes for the Northern PLain regionbut it took my 45 minutes! to complete the Template:Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg. Just look how many missing articles!!!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 19:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC) I have finshed th towns in Szabolcs. I have also started Geography of Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg. Have a read let me know what you think. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Not bad eh? there is so much vast missing info on wikipedia. The history article though needs to be expanded about ten times!! It also needs to study the region historcially when the county was seperated into three smaller counties. But it is a start. I'll contine with villages now. Hey not bad that we've reached 1,500,000 articles is it? If you think that the largest ever edition of Encyclopedia Britannica in its 50 or so volumes only ever had 85,000 articles and the largest ever comiled in human history I think is about 300,000 this really puts things in perspective. Over 18 times bigger than the largest library of britannica already! And then you see our latest county and how empty it is!! I really think wikipedia can only grow from strength to strength. It will be MASSIVE in years to come. What the internet needs is one primary source of information. You think of how much info exactly exists over the newtork. If one giant global site could produce this which wikipedia is potentially capable of doing then think how great it would be!! How's school anyway? Do you have a career in mind? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I have created the monster Template:BAZ I was beginning to worry the box might be too big and look ridiculous but I think it is just OK. See how empty it is? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I thought the template was way too big so I have found a way around it . It looks much smarter now. I suggest that for the larger counties which have a high number of villages which look like a list rather than a template we have the villages listed on a seperate page see Template:BAZ now
Nygaard suggestions (criticisms)
If those navigation boxes look like I imagine they will look, don't do it. They will be useless for navigation purposes, render the "what links here" feature totally useless, and cause all sorts of other problems. Gene Nygaard 01:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Please read Gene Nygaard's talk page at the bottom. He is still saying something is messed up, I'll be leaving wikipedia pretty soon if I keep getting this. He's making it miserable for me and I'm very pissed off. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mark yes I have read Nygaard's comments and I am not happy with bullying on this site. Every city town and vilage in Hungary should NOT go in the main category there are well over a thousand and it would be too full. THat page is sub categorized appropriately into county categories which the villages should go in I have suggested that only Cities and town in the country go in two categories I will fix this. As for sanctions. Mark if your work was so terrible I doubt very much that you would have been praised so much and awarded a barnstar for your work!! Not exactly the kind of thing you give to a vandal!
I just like the majority of users over two million are extremely grateful for your work and contirbution. Don't let comments like this deter you. However I know it is frustating but please try not to insult him personally as it will only worsen his relationship. Read my commments on User talk:Gene Nygaard
All the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld 11:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Nothing Mygaard has to say is worth it.
no nygaard.
Nygaard Stop now!
I asked you nicely to stop creating articles that are not properly sorted in their categories, and to go back and fix the ones you had messed up before. So why are you still doing that, in hundreds of new articles[1][2]? Gene Nygaard 03:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
HURRAHHHHHH! THE PROBLEM IS OVER!!!!!!We can carry on using the info boxes Yes I am so happy I solved it. What was causing the problem was the category of the actual template Template:HungaryCities. I just removed the category and problem solved. Now it has automatically taken away all of the wrong categories on all of the others. Yes!! Our villages no longer inhabit the main Hungarian cities categories and neither are they wrongly indexed. You can continue now exactly as you did earlier today still using the english indexing for the county category. Problem solved Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Banská Bystrica District is not completeErnst Stavro Blofeld 17:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
No of course I don't want to leave wikipedia its just to be honest with you the actions of Nygaard in the last week made we not want to log in because there would be an unecessary message left from him. You haven't mentioned him for ages. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I you could continue with the biggy that would be great I am going ahead and setting up the Northern Hungary county boxes. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 09:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
We are steadily making progress I have branched out the top links a bit by starting economy stubbish and list of cities by population. I want to sart the government and politics of the county but can't find any info!!! Here is encouragement. I started Balkány as a new stub the other day - several days later has a nice bit of detail! If this could be done for every village as I think is currently being done in Slovakia then our work is very succesful. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Ha ha almost finshed Szabolcs. I have been rather sidetracked with compiling the entir elist of missing films from wikipedia a HUGE task and am only about 1/100th the way through. Anyway the next county to cover in Hungary will be Borsod. See the villages List of villages in Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén -there were too many to fit in the template! I am also adding the county symbol to the box to make it look better. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 11:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Problem is over
I have continued and added about 10 new ones to Hajdu county and there is no longer a problem any more trust me. Just the one county category and correct english indexing Everything is perfect. Feel free to continue using Berekböszörmény.
Well done. See Berekfürdő for the next one. Then of course at a later date will be the biggy one!!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh my god I have found the most amazing map. It has a locator for every village on the entire planet. An exact satellite fix. Visit www.maplandia.com. We could add links to the locator map from every hungarian article. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I have just been indexing some of the SLovakian villages and I find that many of the inital stubs I started have been turned into really great articles. Our work clearly was very important. You may want to talk and meet User talk:Jpurdes.who I think is transforming them from stubs. I don't know if he is Slovak but he appears to understand it. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Ďakujem for your help with Hungary. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
They look good your motorway articles but remember to use Category:Roads in Serbia too. I will continue to gradually sort out Hungary particularly the navigation bozes. Then the villages can then be started. This will be a gradual thing as I will be working on film and geo-articles as I said but I would still be grateful if you would continue with adding a number of villages when you can. See ya. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Mark remember that every motorway article particularly if it is called A1, A2 A3 or M3 or whatever you need to list it on the main A? page. E.g your Croatia motrway A5 (Croatia) needs to have a link on the page A5. We'll continue on Hungary later. I have just created some new paiting articles. I love culture I created Double Persephone and Shalu Monastery and evenn Abadeh rug!. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 10:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Go to A5 Your A5 (Croatia) should be listed on here as your other roads should be on their appropriate numbersErnst Stavro Blofeld 11:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I have started Ajak (village).Ernst Stavro Blofeld 19:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi how is everything. I see that you like my have taken almost a week away from wikipedia. To be honest i was getting sick of people arguing losing sight of the main picture. First there was that busines with Nygaard over villages, then I have had trouble with uploaded images by a user who keeps tagging everything - many agree with me he should be blocked, then some people have put some of my past stubs up for deletion and some user keeps trying to delete all of my Finnish films who is on par with Nygaard in terms of nastiness. I feel much better but I really do wish some users would just shut up!! I am refreshed now I will try to complete Hungary county later. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Please could you start Ivan Stodola from sk:Ivan Stodola. It is in Slovak Ernst Stavro Blofeld 19:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Municipalities in Slovakia
MarkBA, thank you very much for your great job in creating stubs for Slovakia's municipalities! Your number of contributions in recent days is pretty impressive and such prolific editors are really needed here. I hope you will continue to create, expand, and look after articles about Slovakia also in the future. Just a minor point: If you create an article about a village, such as Sklené, Turčianske Teplice, it is more standard to name it Sklené, Turčianske Teplice District because the village is part of the district of Turčianske Teplice, not of the town of Turčianske Teplice. Tankred 06:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Great work
Great work with the new articles! Keep it up, you are an asset to wikipedia! Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- P.S. i gave you a barnstar on your main page! You deserve it. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Very much agree with Chris above, don't let the actions of one person get you down. Personally I have always thought the creation of new artices the most important part of adding to wiki. Philbentley 19:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
A NEW WIKILANGUAGE SISTER PROJECT
I propose a new major wikiproject Wikilanguage or Wiki Linguistics which specializes in the teaching of all languages. I have looked over the internet and have found some sites which do have several of the major languages giving knowledge of learning them but this wuould be huge and would provide all the information for learning languages such as most of the 250 languages that already have wikipedias. Learning a language is a major infomration source but wikipedia does not have this. Anybody interested in starting this ? I beleive this wikipedia sister project would be developed into an extremwely valuable resoruce not only for achieving knowledge of major languages but also other world languages which are not always readily available to learn.
I beleive that such is the massive global size of wikipedia that wikipedians from each country who have a knoweldge of their own languages could contribute. E.g I would like to have a knowledge of the Slovak or Finnish language but at present there is not much detail. I would like a complete WikipediaLinguistics Sister project devoted to providing languages across the planet.
E.g WikiLanguages would be divded into 250 languages eventually or whatever with each having a massive sub project of its own. WikiFrench WikiSpanish WikiFinnish, WikiPortuguese, WikiGerman, WikiPortuguese, WikiCzech WikiItalian WikiGreek WikiSwedish WikiJapanese etc. What do you think. If you think it is a good idea let me know I have propsed it on the main page but I seriously think this would be an immensely benefical part of wikipedia. Also if it could incorpate translation technology also think of the immense benefit it wuod,have from translating articles from foreign wikipedias!!!
If you think it is a great idea I am thinking of organizing a Support campaign for it to ensure that WikiLinguistics or whatever is established alongside WikiSpecies WikiCommons etc. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 11:52, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes it would provide the knowledge of learning every language fluently including all aspects grammar, etc. The dictionaries could be a part of WikiDictionary but these would be specializes disctionaries by langage an A-Z as you would buy from Collins in the shops. I have spoken to to lead WIkipedian technician in Tampa FLorida about using an audio for most words and sentences to not only learn to read and write fluently but to speak it too. E.g if at this munite I wanted to learn Slovak the etire sub project of WikiLanguages entitled WikiSlovak would be there starting with the basic phrases and grammar with perhaps a thousand pages taking you through the learning it at a high level. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I beleive this new project I have devised is massive and could become world renowned if allowed to develop like Wikiproject. It couldalso have translation technology so all articles missing from english wikipedia could be translated instantly. A very important tool. But in the end I anticipate it could create some new 250 webistes of WikiLanguages with each language teaching world languages in their particular language. E.g Slovak wikipedia would have its own Slovak version of WIkiLanguages and would attempt to teach the other 250 languages in the Slovak language. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
This would be the ultimate library for all languages on the planet. It could even provide knowledge of local dialects etc. Why pay hundreds of dollars for another website with limited languages or expensive language leanring packages when this new project could teach every language fluently for free. I would hope it would grow like its sister Wikipedia with millions of words. English wikipedia has memebrs from over a hundred countries each could contrinute gradaully with their knowledge of thier own language and it would grow at an accelarating rate like wikiepdia. I mean if you search the enitre world now on google for example Learning Hungarian there is really no free easy to learn fluent source in English to achieve this. THis is vast human knowledge missing from the world. One giant Encylopedia of Languages that is free. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Spelling
Thank you for fixing the typos in the Banska Bystrica article. And an advice for the future: please do not change the American spelling into the British one (e.g. "honor" vs. "honour", "center" vs. "centre"). Both forms are correct. Cheers. Tankred 21:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Zilina
Nice job at Zilina. Tankred 23:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Your hobby
Hi if you have interest in highways, constructions, architecture and fotos you can visit this page:[3] SkyscraperCity biggest forum for new info whats going on in World- cau my friend, Marek.kvackaj
Špilár
Ahoj. Píšu ohledně toho kokota, který stále revertoval diakritiku Marka Špilára. Nic si z toho nedělej, je to šovinista. Všiml jsem si, že jsi (spolu s Ernstem Stavro Blofeldem) s ním měli párkrát problémy v minulosti. Snad ho společnými silami udoláme. :) - Darwinek 18:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
How iz life in the SLovak Republic? We have kind of got side tracked of Hungary I hope you haven't forgotten. I have been very busy compiling the List of Argentine films and films by country. I see our old friend Gene Nygaard has now been unpleasant and made an enemy of everyone on wikipedia - so it wasn't just us! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I had nearly forgotten him until he pestered me about something in deeper most Mongolia earlier! Hey see my new pics to wikipedia at Porthkerry Park, Vale of Glamorgan and the rainbow at Bristol Channel. - and Viaduct main pciture If everyone could photograph there home place it would be amazing!Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Martin Farkas
Hi. I think you are completely right ant Martin Farkas is not notable enough. On the other hand, it seems some other editors think the opposite, see List of sole survivors of air disasters. So I will not initiate an AfD. If you want to have that article deleted, I will probably support you. I have at least corrected the error that you mentioned in your comment. And, by the way, I really like your edits. Almost all the towns in Slovakia have now infoboxes in Wikipedia, which is great. And I also hope that we will cover more topics in the military history of Slovakia in the future. Your Battle of Trenčín and my Battle of Rozhanovce are a good start that will hopefully inspire other editors as well. Tankred 18:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Diakritika
Zdravim, ako sme mali problém s Markom Špilárom, tak teraz máme problém s Waldemarem Matuškou, pozri sa prosím tu a podpor prosím. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 09:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- dik :) ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 20:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
WikiSk template
Hello,
I have recently founded a template which can be used on their user pages by those, who contribute to the Slovak Wikipedia as well. If you do and if you are interested, you can have a look at Template:User wikisk. Jan.Kamenicek 22:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
KV
You should be interested in this [4], please take a look there ! ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 22:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello ^_^
This is a thank you for working on Wikipedia. Every edit helps! Have a wonderful day.
Saber girl08 04:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Mochovce
Go for it. It's another good article of yours. I've just fixed the prose a bit, but you did not left much work to do:-) Tankred 20:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Vandal
He just got 'last warning' for that, he will be blocked if he vandalizes again.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 16:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
DYK
--Carabinieri 11:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah we meet again I saw your edits to the SLovak climber I added the cats and image to earlier. What are you up to these days? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E" 20:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Congrats!! Good to know you are well. Our old firend Nygaard has now just about covered the whole encylopedia with indexing!!!! His name appears in the most unusual combination of pages!!! All the best and keep up the improvement of thoese slovak stubs. How is the road project fro slovakia going? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E" 21:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
The motorways of croatia etc remember? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E" 21:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Coincidence again I have written casino royale it is now up for an FA. Please assess the article and leave your opinion at the featured article candidates thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E" 19:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Havránok
Thank you for expanding Devin. I have never found time to do it:-) By the way, I really liked your idea to propose the Mochovce Nuclear Power Plant for DYK. Now, I am trying to get a second DYK for Slovakia, by creating Havránok. Please, feel free to improve the article when you are online. I wrote it in the middle of night, so it must be really awful. Tankred 07:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- We got it. Maybe we should propose an article for DYK whenever we create one. So far, so good. Tankred 22:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Ehm, not really. Unfortunately, there are no books about Hurban where I live. If you live in Slovakia (I guess you do), maybe you can check out Slovensky biograficky slovnik and all those books with a title like Dejiny Slovenska. It is also fairly difficult to find any information about Slovak airports in general. I'm afraid I cannot help you with these ones. Oh, yeah, this is the biggest problem with DYK: the most important articles are already written and it is difficult to find references for the remaining, more or less obscure topics. Tankred 15:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Ducove
Excellent! If you have any pictures from Ducove, could you upload them to commons please? We have only one picture there and it is not... ehm... the best one. Tankred 20:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I think a Ducove category is all right. Other towns in Slovakia have their own categories too. Tankred 22:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Genealogy help
Hello - I'm researching families in Krasnovce, Slovakia, and have a handful of pre-WWII photographs which (apparently) depict the main street in Krasnovce circa 1920-1930. Particular surnames of interest are HUJDIC and FROMAN, TOMCHIK and KRUSIC. Please email me, as I have some documents to send for discussion.--Brad Patrick 18:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks, atď.
Ahoj, Mark. Thanks for the welcome. It was seeing your geography templates here that got me involved, actually, so anything I screw up from now on is your fault ;)
I've made a few edits over at the SK wikipedia as well, mostly just linking to things I've done here.
If you (or anyone) as a kind of "most wanted" list, of things that are on the SK version, but really need to be on the EN version as well, please let me know. I work as a translator for a living, and at least for the moment, I enjoy working even when I'm not getting paid ;) My biggest areas of interest for this would be general Slovak history and almost anything related to BA. Requests to assist with Slovak hip hop will be smugly ignored ;)
BTW, regarding your templates... I live in Nové mesto, and your page for the district shows post code 832XX... but mine is 831 02, actually. There may be more prefixes in use, but I'm not sufficiently motivated to trawl over Slovenská pošta spreadsheets collecting the info. Also on the main BA page (don't know if you're responsible for this), there is an "Area Code" shown of 562000... do you have any idea what this is?
S priateľským pozdravom, MikeGogulski 21:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
One thing I forgot to mention, which should interest you because it impacts your templates, is the translations for administrative divisions of Slovakia:
- Kraj - County (currently shown as "Region" on the BA page)... to have a direct linguistic parallel to "county", the word "kraj" should really be "grófstvo". I have seen "kraj" translated both ways, though. If you decide to adopy "county", you might want to add entries for kraj on the County page as well.
- Okres - District - this is the accepted translation. Fortunately, Slovakia doesn't have oblasti as well :)
- Mestská časť - Might be better as Borough - "city part" in many translations is too literal. Ward (politics) is also a (lesser) candidate term.
Srdecne, MikeGogulski 21:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava#Government
Mark, the source is excellent and the information accurate, but I fear that such a direct copy from the city's website, especially when it's not shown as a quotation, is plagiarism.
I suggest you remove that text for the moment. MikeGogulski 20:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
In response to your last message, well... when I saw that the text needed almost no grammar correction, I thought it was worth checking your source... /spank ;)
And for today's cooperation, I definitely agree, and thanks to you as well. I've got a few other small articles I'm working on a bit at a time, but I've put a lot into the BA article so far... I wanna see it on the front page :) MikeGogulski 20:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Super. I took what you did, reorganized it a bit, and added lots of refs. The section looks complete to me. MikeGogulski 22:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Mark, if you think you can translate it, go right ahead and do so. Also if you know of anything important to add or change in the letter, please do that also, and point it out. I know that government agencies here like to be reminded of the specific Law which requires them to respond to a request, but I don't know which law that would be in this case. MikeGogulski 15:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Can you provide sources?
You seem like a reasonable editor so maybe you could clear up this matter. I simply asked you to provide sources for the following controversial statement "In the High and Late Middle Ages, the town was the main producer of silver and gold in the Kingdom of Hungary (Slovakia was part of that kingdom from the 11th century until 1918)" You failed to provide sources but you also removed the fact template which can be considered vandalism without providing a source for a statement like above. Could you clear up the matter in a couple of words, explaining when was the State of Slovakia created, founded, which were the borders of Slovakia upon its creation, where can I find some sources about this etc. Odbhss 08:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also in one of your edit summaries you write "rv, better said, land of Slovaks was part of KoH until 1918" and intrestingly enough I completely agree with you here. No one is denying Slovaks lived in present day Slovakia for a long time. But then you reverted to the "Slovakia was part of..." Slovakia is a definite multiethnic country (home of the Slovaks and also the Hungarians who live there) with its own definite borders ,history etc. So "Slovakia" has no other meaning but the State of Slovakia and if you want to state that the state of Slovakia existed in the 11th century but the evil Hungarians annexed it or whatever you can say that but you should back it up with sources. Hope we can clear this up. Odbhss 09:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer I will be more careful about the term Upper Hungary in the future. Would you object using the term present day Slovakia like changing the sentence to :("lands of present day Slovakia were part of that kingdom from the 11th century until 1918"). or without the lands and insert present day only. In any case I kind of misjudged the reasoning behind your edits. Odbhss 09:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding to the messages and clearing up this matter, and sorry for the misunderstandig. Odbhss 11:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer I will be more careful about the term Upper Hungary in the future. Would you object using the term present day Slovakia like changing the sentence to :("lands of present day Slovakia were part of that kingdom from the 11th century until 1918"). or without the lands and insert present day only. In any case I kind of misjudged the reasoning behind your edits. Odbhss 09:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Mark, that guy is a sockpuppet of a banned user. His account should (and hopefully will be) blocked soon. Any contribution of that sockpuppet should be deleted. He had many chances in the past (under his previous name User:VinceB, but he basically broke every rule that has existed in Wikipedia. Tankred 14:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
No. I am the one, who's banned. --195.56.51.196 14:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
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User: Juro, User: Tankred, and User:PANONIAN said, that i am the socpuppet of VinceB. I tried to tell tthem, that I am not, but they did not listen to me. Now, I am going to act like a sockpuppet!bye
Slovakia Edit War
Hi, I was just checking recent changes and noticed the war going on at Slovakia. Looking at the page history, it appears to me as though both you and Pannonia have broken the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule in the past few hours. Can I suggest that you both discuss the changes on the article talk page first before reverting edits endlessly. If there is anything I can do to help sort out this disagreement, let me know. I'm leaving the same message on both pages. Paxse 16:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Mark, I am really sorry for what has happened today and I thank you for your firm protection of Slovakia against a vandal. Well, Wikipedia is not always a pleasant place to work. Tankred 17:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Poll on Bratislava
Thank you for your participation in the discussion regarding the use of the names "Bratislava" and "Pressburg" on Talk:Bratislava. I would like also to invite you to a poll that will show us the real support for the two alternatives. I hope the poll will help us reach consensus and close this case so we can move on to other improvements of that (hopefully) future featured article. You can access the poll at Talk:Bratislava#Poll. I look forward to your opinion. Tankred 05:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Another DYK
Mark, I have submitted tajchy as a new DYK candidate. If you have time and inclination, you can perhaps improve that new article. Tankred 07:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. It is my first barnstar:-) Tankred 19:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Slovakia
Hi, I am from Australia and I am collecting some information about Slovakia for a debate I'm going to next week. What is its largest power source, coal powered or nuclear? How dependant on those powersources is slovakia? Would it be able to meet the Kyoto agreement regarding carbon emissions if it was forced to? What is the governments foriegn policy regarding a Palestinian free state, favorable or against? thanks, Benjamint444 08:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
New disruptive user
Hey Mark, you are right, it looks more like a purely disruptive account. I suggest you use vandalism warning templates in cases of indisputable vandalism. Such behavior should be discouraged. Although I am quite busy in the real life, I will be happy to help you, if you have any problem with that user. I just will not be able to react very quickly. Good luck. Tankred 14:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- [personal attack removed]--Székhu 15:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the Slovak regions, counties and their names and articles
Hi, see my proposal at User:Svetovid/Sandbox#Slovak_regions.2C_counties... and leave some feedback.--Svetovid 11:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
slovak newbie
Thanks for advice.Is it possible to put those images there without uploading them again? How can I delete mistakely uploaded image please. And...I created my first page The Starina reservoir...is it ok? :)--Hyro84 15:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hyro84"
wikiproject slovakia
Is there any chance there will be wikiproject Slovakia someday? I think it might be helpfull... I'm new here as you know, so I don't understand why there isn't one... is there any particular problem? I ask you, because you are only one I know here through your help so far...Hyro84 21:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- On the one hand, we already have Portal:Slovakia and there is not much traffic. On the other hand, the recent successful collaboration at Bratislava showed the great potential of Slovakia-related editors. We should perhaps have at least our notice board, so we can discuss general issues at one place, instead of leaving messages at different talk and user talk pages. By the way, welcome to Wikipedia, Hyro84, and happy editing! Tankred 21:40, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Is there any difference between notice board and regional board? MarkBA mentioned that you prefer regional board. --Hyro84 22:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava
I would love to help you with that one, but I know nothing about the construction industry in Bratislava. If I find any reliable sources, I will add something either to your sandbox or to the article (when you publish it). I will be also happy to copyedit the new text, though it will be hardly necessary in your case:-) Tankred 20:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm I see you made a "boroughs of Bratislava" category, good idea, but you made your life more difficult than it needed to be... it might have been easier to add the category tag to the template just once, rather than to the individual articles... of course, now that you've done the work, it doesn't matter much, at least not until the city expands again or re-draws the dividing lines. — Mike Gogulski ↗C•@•T↗ 00:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I'll have a read tomorrow - I'll be glad to. I'm currently doing something very different adding the characters ofBaywatch!! -some serious eye candy!! = Check out C.J. Parker Hey a user is now adding all the Hungarian villages so we don;t have to bother!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 20:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
My review:
Commment This has developed extremely well in the last few months, the article was a pleasure to read concise, well structured providing all the information you would expect in a FA standard article. The article summarizes major topics particularly well. However one or two minor quabbles. Firstly I'd like to see more references particularly on broad statements that will need verification to reach an FA status. In many places referencing is still rather sparse and needs consolidation throughout and reliability of all sources checking before the proposal. Secondly there are one or two unencyclopedic sentences which will need to be factualized. For instance "Bratislava is an hour's drive from the Czech Republic" - maybe so but this is highly dependent on traffic, speed, automobile etc. Stick to fact as much as possible, which you genrally have very well. Thirdly I'd like to see the government and politics section written more coherently and a bit more detail given-this for me was the only flawed section I could see in the article. I have adjusted the structure of the article in places which are related to geography first and beleive this is the structure that will take this to FA. Other than these very minor flaws it is a very good article for the world to read and believe that with a bit of work should reach FA requirments. Well done Mark and to all who have worked on this - ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I have request though. Can someone try to write an article summarizing the Culture of Slovakia. I'd like to see a long detailed article on Slovak culture. Why was it missing? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- You can find data about religion markup from the 2001 Census at statistics.sk.--Svetovid 18:38, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I found something for you: There is a brochure about the University Library at phobos.ulib.sk/univerzitna_kniznica.pdf. I think it is an excellent reference for that 1848 Diet thing. See p. 35 (p.36 of the pdf file) for instance. Tankred 10:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
PLease can you write an article on the Culture of Slovakia thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Good job. I think citations are all right now. Honestly, I am no longer able to find any problem. Perhaps some sentences can be improved a bit or there is something new in the Manual of Style we are not aware of. But that could be easily fixed. Let us close the poll and submit an FA nomination. If there is any problem, people will tell us. IMO the article is ready for an FA status. Tankred 19:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- I almost forgot: We should check the license tags of all the pictures. I have just checked the coat of arms and... we have a problem. Please express your opinion here. Tankred 19:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
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Gribov
A "{{prod}}" template has been added to the article Gribov, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. ChrisLamb 17:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Boroughs and localities of Bratislava
Hi MarkBA. You are off to such a great start on the article Boroughs and localities of Bratislava that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 02:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
DYK
--Carabinieri 10:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for giving Slovakia a presence on the main page. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
RM of Slovak Ore Mountains and Lesser Fatra
You recently participated in a requested move discussion at Talk:Greater Fatra and might be interested a similar situation at Talk:Slovak Ore Mountains and Talk:Lesser Fatra. These articles were previously moved to their Slovak names but I have reverted the moves and posted them at WP:RM to allow for discussion. — AjaxSmack 05:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Autism review
Thanks for your review and comment on Autism. As mentioned on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Autism I trimmed the lead a bit and added cites to Autism#Classification's intro; further suggestions are welcome. Eubulides 16:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Copyedit of Bratislava
I'm on it. I expect to have completed the article within the next couple of several days. I'm glad you liked what I did to the lead. I never realised it bordered Austria and Hungary; that must have been a pretty hot checkpoint not too long ago. --Milkbreath 19:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I know British spelling. Do you mention that because I changed something to American spelling without realizing it? And I'll try to be aware of repetitions, but I don't want to change much of the content, not knowing anything at all about Bratislava. You wanted a disinterested party, and you got it. --Milkbreath 10:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I just finished "Demographics". I compared it with "History" side-by-side, and I didn't see a problem with repetition. For one thing, I think that each section should be able to stand alone, and there will therefore be a certain amount of repetition overall. Also, the various expulsions are historically noteworthy in their own right and must be in the History section, while it would be wrong to exclude the expulsions from the Demographics section. --Milkbreath 10:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
You ask why dated. The sentence read "Today, Bratislava enjoys...". Fifty years from now, "today" will mean "fifty years ago", but the reader won't know that unless we tell him now. It's like time travel. I see your point, though. It might be better just to delete "today". --Milkbreath 13:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
FA
It is a pity. We have done a lot of work on Bratislava. But never mind, the article is in a very good shape and I suggest we wait a bit with another nomination. In the meantime, we should replace as many Slovak references with the English ones as possible. We should also provide some explanation for the recent economic boom of Bratislava. Another remaining issue (copyediting) is already resolved. I think the biggest problem with the latest nomination was simply that people were lost on a long FA/Bratislava page and had no time to read it all. That should be avoided next time. Another problem was caused by the summer time. I guess most editors come from colleges, which means they are around during the regular academic year. Next time, we can also perhaps advertise our FA candidature on the talk pages of people interested in the topic (some Slovak, Czech, and Polish editors) as well as on the Eastern European message board to attract more input. Tankred 15:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- If you can find Lacika in English, that would be awesome. You would be able to replace a great deal of Slovak references in the article. As to the Slovak infobox template, I think it is sufficient in its coverage of information, but the graphics is really lame. Anyway, I will be happy to discuss any of your ideas how to improve the template. Tankred 18:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Sorry about the drive by tagging!
I was doing a random article sweep when I hit the wall of text. I would have done it if I had time (I thought I had a meeting but it was cancelled). The article is quite good but the presentation was a bit off. I added a few more section headers. The Danubiana Art museum looks interesting. Is there an article on it coming up? Spryde 18:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Kraków
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Hi Poeticbent. I'd like just to inform you that some incomplete references still block my support for your article (example refs 40, 73 and 74 (no retrieval date). I'm not also very sure about if that UNESCO template is needed in both main and Old Town articles - I'd prefer to leave it only in the latter. And finally, this passage would be more verifiable with some reference "A trumpet call, hejnał mariacki, is sounded from the church's main tower every hour. The melody played ends unexpectedly in midstream. According to legend, the tune was played during a 13th century Tatar invasion by a guard warning citizens against the attack. He was shot by a Tatar warrior while playing, the melody breaking off at the moment he died." But otherwise I feel you have made great effort to fix objections, and if these are addressed, I'm ready to support promotion. While I'm at it, I have also nominated an article for FA, Bratislava, and I have... well, no comments so far, and I wondered if you could comment the state of the article. MarkBA t/c/@ 19:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the heads-up. I've been moving down the list of citations at Kraków for a few days now. The lower numbers are still ahead of me and will be done shortly. Meanwhile, I'm working on additional info with regards to religion in Kraków etc. I wonder what other Polish editors might think about the UNESCO template. Personally I like it where it is, because the privilege matters greatly for the entire city and not only for the District of Stare Miasto. As soon as I'm finished with Kraków, I'll be happy to take a closer look at Bratislava for a refreshing change of scene, including its previous nomination. --Poeticbent talk 21:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I’m pleased to inform you that your concerns have been duly addressed. I went through the entire list of citations from top to bottom, adding retrieval dates as well as additional info whenever possible (see this compound edit), in twice as many places as you actually indicated. I would very much appreciate your input at this time, especially with User:Jotel (no user page) trying to fail this nomination with his twice-opposed votes,[5][6] following his repeated deletions of entire paragraphs I write.[7] --Poeticbent talk 18:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for those final touch-ups. Much obliged. --Poeticbent talk 19:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, but although I see you're trying, and I appreciate it, I still have few issues that are striking. I left the notes at the candidature page. To your conflict with Jotel, I'm sorry that I can't tell you clear opinion as I don't know the whole background, but removal of text and particularly valid text isn't polite without discussing, though the passage you've thrown me sounds bit strange, because without one passage mentioning churches in the city, nothing seems to deal with Kraków itself, but I think it can be improved if more city-related data is inserted. But inserting three opposes is something very bad-faithed, not to mention biased. MarkBA t/c/@ 19:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for those final touch-ups. Much obliged. --Poeticbent talk 19:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- I’m pleased to inform you that your concerns have been duly addressed. I went through the entire list of citations from top to bottom, adding retrieval dates as well as additional info whenever possible (see this compound edit), in twice as many places as you actually indicated. I would very much appreciate your input at this time, especially with User:Jotel (no user page) trying to fail this nomination with his twice-opposed votes,[5][6] following his repeated deletions of entire paragraphs I write.[7] --Poeticbent talk 18:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up. I've been moving down the list of citations at Kraków for a few days now. The lower numbers are still ahead of me and will be done shortly. Meanwhile, I'm working on additional info with regards to religion in Kraków etc. I wonder what other Polish editors might think about the UNESCO template. Personally I like it where it is, because the privilege matters greatly for the entire city and not only for the District of Stare Miasto. As soon as I'm finished with Kraków, I'll be happy to take a closer look at Bratislava for a refreshing change of scene, including its previous nomination. --Poeticbent talk 21:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Barbara Nedeljakova
Can you please stop removing this link from the Banská Bystrica article? Your dismissal of her notability based on "one atrocious film" is strictly your own POV. If you don't feel that she satisfies notability guidelines, then by all means list the article at WP:AfD. But as long as the article exists there is no reason for the link not to be there. You can't just exclude someone because you don't like them. PC78 12:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't care whether this person has an article or not, but what I do care is the notability for the inclusion of "famous people". Right now, it doesn't fulfil this criterion, comparing to the other people on the list. People aren't famous for one film and therefore I must insist of keeping this one away. MarkBA t/c/@ 12:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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history of Slovakia
Hi Mark,
Why did you delete my edits on the aricle 'Slovakia'? You labelled them as "vandalism", while I wrote the following things:
1, "...severe oppression in the form of Magyarisation promoted by the Hungarian government that resulted in their will to form their own state."
What's your problem with that??? You wanted to create your own country, didn't you????!!!
2, "The year 1946 saw the introduction of the Beneš decrees, that were a series of laws enacted by the Czechoslovak government of exile during World War II in absence of Czechoslovak parliament (see details in Czechoslovakia: World War II (1939 - 1945)). Today, the term is most frequently used for the part of the decrees that dealt with the status of Germans and Hungarians in post-war Czechoslovakia and has become a symbol for the whole controversial issue of expulsion of Germans and Hungarians after World War II from Czechoslovakia and its ramifications in today's politics."
I have just copy-pasted that from the entry Benes-decrees from the English wikipedia...
3, "he needs to form a majority coalition with two sovinist parties led by Meciar and Slota in the parliament. The prime minister is appointed by the president."
Why do you think that your country's euro-Atlantic integration process was not as fast as it could have been between 1993 and 1998? It was because of Mr. Meciar's policy. Slota is even worse than him. Both hate Hungarians (who form 9.5% of Slovakia's population). They are sovinists, and extremely nationalists.
4, I ereased this: "Most of Slovakia was integrated into the Kingdom of Hungary by c. 1100, northeastern parts by c. 1300. Because of its high level of economic and cultural development, Slovakia retained its important position in this new state. For almost two centuries, it was ruled autonomously as the Principality of Nitra, within the Kingdom of Hungary."
There was no principality of Nitra/Nyitra. Maybe, a Slovak noble man lived there, but there was no principality. Why? Because a prince is a relative of a royal family. That time, the Kingdom of Hungary was led by the Árpáds, and they did not create any principality in Nitra/Nyitra. In the early 14th century there was an oligarch, called Máté Csák (sorry, I don't know his name in Slovak), who de facto ruled the North-Western parts of Hungary (that is actually Western-Slovakia). I am not sure, but I think, that his ethnicity was Slovakian. His centre was in Trencin/Trencsén.
Why can't we agree on basic history topics? Why Slovakians and Hungarians have to fight??? We must co-operate, don't you understand???
Best wishes, fifuszfc (Péter Gál, Eger, Hungary)
P.S. Why are you afraid of Hungarians??? We don't want to invade your country (99% of us :)). We only want to secure the well-being of some 500,000 people that are from the same nation like us, who talk the same language like we do. Why can't you handle this situation??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fifuszfc (talk • contribs) 21:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, you don't need to give me your name, but calling party chauvinist without a reliable source is POV wording, and that's something we don't aim for. Another thing I dislike is deletion of uncontroversial, established content without reason. But I'm at least glad that some are willing to discuss some of the controversial matters (well, it's a long term debate on Slovak-Hungarian politics), as what I usually do here is reverting vandalism from real vandals. To the P.S. - who would want to? It isn't present-day matter, when we'll have no borders soon :) MarkBA t/c/@ 22:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava and infoboxes
Ehm, I will look at Bratislava and try to shorten the history section. It kind of sucks that we had to expand it and now we have to shorten it - all because an FA candidature that does not attract much attention anyway. Do you think it would be a good idea to advertise the candidature at the Czech Noticeboard?
Btw, you might be interested in a new geobox template that I have recently used at Banska Bystrica. It is extremely flexible and creates very nice maps. I think it would be nice to replace all obsolete infoboxes and it is now quite easy: we need just to copy the geobox from Banska Bystrica and change the data. What do you think? Should we start with Bratislava? Tankred 01:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- 1. Yes, that sucks, though personally I didn't like that I have to add too much recent history. 2. I guess we don't have other option left... 3. I watched this thingy for a while now and while it is for sure interesting, I'm not sure if it will have enough space for data which don't fit elsewhere. Obsolete, you mean Infobox Town Slovakia or Infobox Settlement? 4. I'll see in preview... MarkBA t/c/@ 13:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Slovakian Wikipedians' notice board
I wanted to leave a message for Slovakian users, but it wasn't listed at Hungarian Wikipedians' notice board like other regional boards. Please add it. Squash Racket 06:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it belongs before Sri Lanka, not after. Right? Squash Racket 17:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Geobox 2
Hi, I've noticed you started using Geobox 2 for Slovak settlements. I've slightly changed Bratislava and Košice in two ways:
- The Country, State, Region, District and Municipality are to be used for administration units into which the site, whatever type it is, belongs. For parts into which it divides there's a part field, which is optionally foldable be (as every indexed field) foldable. This way, you can describe the administrative division and creating an easy way to navigate up and down its parts.
- I personally prefer not to repeat the administrative unit type twice on the same line, if the text on the left reads Region it seems sufficient the text to read just Bratislava with the proper link to the region set, a bit more typing, though. It doesn't have to be so, of course, it just looks better that way, for me …
Finally, there's an "semi-automated" tool which can convert any Geobox in the version 1 to the version 2 which reparses and reformats their fields. As I've suggested to User:Tankred it can be upadted to enable conversion from the Slovak template too if there's any interest in this. – Caroig (talk) 20:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, just a short notice about the new Geoboxes for settlements. It's preferable to call the template as {{Geobox|Settlement and set the settlement type (City, Town, Village etc.) in the category field. The first parameter, Settlement, adjust the display or names of some fields in the output, e.g. it sets the symbol_type = Coat of arms thus you don't have to add this field manually. The support for calling the template with City, Town etc,. has been added for ease of use. It would be of course possible to make all parameters change the symbol_type (and other fields) but it would make the code unnecessary long.
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Did you know
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Your comment
"Well, I've invited Milkbreath to comment History so I'll see what I'll get. Looks like that sock won't give up - recent revert of comment he didn't like confirms that. For 99% he is VinceB. I support indef block because normal editors need some rest from Hungarian nationalists. MarkBA t/c/@ 13:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)"
- Would you mind explaining to me which comment got reverted so that you support an indef block of a user? Or were you talking about me? Squash Racket 18:39, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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DYK
Cheers, Daniel 07:01, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava
I am perfectly fine with your version and do not see anything else I would remove from the History section. Tankred 18:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
barnstar comin' at ya
The Featured Article Barnstar | ||
I award this Featured Article Barnstar to MarkBA for their great effort on Bratislava. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC) |
FA
I am happy we have succeeded. It has been a great amount of work in the last half a year, but it was worth doing it. Thank you for everything. Tankred 01:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava Region locator
The map seems OK, there was a glitch in the calibration. Tried at Senec, Pezinok and Malacky. I haven't saved those pages, since I'm not sure if the region map needs to be that large. See my post at WP:SLOVAK – Caroig (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
sk discussion
Hi, You have message in slovak wiki discussion, I am informing You, because You drop rarely there :) --kelovy 21:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, but although I do not contribute very much, I'm doing cruise around periodically so I know where I have new message :) Cheers, MarkBA t/c/@ 21:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Banska Bystrica
Hi Mark, I wonder if you can help me expand the transportation section of Banska Bystrica. I know the topic is your expertise and I know too little about it. A two-line long section is a shame... Another question: Do you know any reliable sources for the non-existing economy section? In contrast to well covered Bratislava, I cannot find anything about the economy of Banska Bystrica. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Tankred (talk) 03:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, I appreciate even one comprehensive sentence:-) Pity it is so difficult to find anything about the economy. All the government-provided data seem to be aggregated to the level of okresy, which really sucks. The investment pages on the municipal website look like made by someone from a kinder garden. Well, I will add whatever I can find. The article cannot become a GA without an economy section. Tankred (talk) 16:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava - Pressburg again
Hello!
After some talk with an administrator (Voyager), we came to the conclusion that it is not necessary to address the name issue in the introduction. Instead, he suggested it would be better to set the alternative names in Brackets like it's the case in the articles of many other cities like praha, ceske budejovice etc. and drop the fourth paragraph alltogether.
In Germany and especially in Austria, Bratislava is still called Pressburg by many, many people, and I do not think that anyone in Hungary uses another name than Pozsony. I think that the old "note" was (and is) also very misleading, as it suggests the reader to believe that Pressburg and even Pozsony is no longer in use at all, which is absolutely not true (and Wikipedia should reflect the thruth in my opinion). It's the other way round: Even a member of the City of Bratislava used "Pressburg" in German when holding a very promising speech about the future of the centrope region and the relations between Bratislava and Vienna.
Just a side note: Would you like to say you go to "Wien" when you mean you go to Viedeň?
Daniel Vienna, Dec. 05. 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.120.179.10 (talk) 12:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- 1.To begin: You have a better place to write something like this as I don't like anon contribs. 2. I strongly contest this - I don't want to flood first para with names and prefer a separate section and link from intro, where it is all nicely explained. 3. But why then signs say something else? MarkBA t/c/@ 13:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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- In the past, Bratislava was a multicultural city, until the habsburg monarchy was torn apart and czechoslovak nationalists felt that the city had to be renamed. I think it is a good thing that many people of today still use the old name as this reflects the charakter of the city better. Futurologists once said that Vienna and Bratislava will eventually become one city in the future, maybe it then will be called Wieslava in both languages (Sounds slovak, doesn't it?) ;) But until then, i think that we should view both names for both cities as equal to promote the similarities and not the (there are not much, if any besides the language...) differences!
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WikiProject Slovakia
I created it, let's give it try Wikipedia:WikiProject_Slovakia. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 07:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 08:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
dude
I am from Arizona but I live on land stolen from the Native Americans. It always felt natural, did not even think much about it. Why can't you admit the same is true in Slovakia, I mean do you really believe the lies you learn in school about the Great Moravian Empire. I mean the Czechs even learn a completely historian than you do. We Americans admit we have made mistakes and have apologized, why can't you apologize, why do you have to be sensitive when you should be objective? And how can one understand the contemporary demographic situation of Slovakia without talking about what happened after Trianon? Come to the Budapest Terror House, there is a new exhibition about the Benes decrees to see, not very from you in Pressburg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.224.28.2 (talk) 16:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, but don't place this rubbish on my page. Regardless from where you are, you have made an enormous omission that the Hungarians tried to do worse... and we aren't sitting on no stolen land, for your information. MarkBA t/c/@ 16:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Bratislava--film
Hi MarkBA, Thanks for your comments on Bratislava as a Bond film location. It's not necessary, but I thought it might be of interest. Unfortunately, I don't know any other instances of Bratislava in popular culture, but perhaps if it was there others might contribute to it (I have done so similarly on other topics). Just a thought.
(It is, of course, unfortunate that the film wasn't *actually* filmed there, but still). I hope you will consider readding the material. Cheers! --Cbradshaw (talk) 05:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
The Czech Ribbon of National Merit | ||
I award you with this ribbon for your significant help with the WikiProject Czech Republic template. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 15:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC) |
Merry Xmas
Hello and thanks for your Xmas message. I've been too busy in my real life to even check what's going on Wikipedia but I've also used this to have a short break from Wikipedia. So with the new year I'll be hopefully back and I'll try to concetrate more on the thing why I started the Geoboxes in the first place, on adding articles, maps and pictures to landscape related articles (rivers, mountains, protected areas). I wish you nice Xmas and gorgeous 2008.
P.S. I wanted to send you a PF but unfortunately you do not have an email address at your profile, anyway if you mail me your address I'll send it to you. – Caroig (talk) 12:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Xmas
I wish you a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! --R O A M A T A A | msg 17:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject Slovakia
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I, Tankred, award you this Ribbon of National Merit for your work on Geography of Slovakia and for putting the WikiProject's banners on articles' talk pages. Tankred (talk) 13:17, 26 December 2007 (UTC) |
- Thank you. It's rather symbolic, but is nonetheless a sign of appreciation. MarkBA t/c/@ 13:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
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Gerlachovský štít GA review: On Hold
On Hold — Notes left on talk page. Nehrams2020 (talk) 00:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The only one right person authorized to edit /delete whatever from Slovak related sites
Hi Mark,
I was very negatively surprised after you had deleted my new link related to Trnava town.
It is nice to know that: -You are very concerned about Slovak topics and editors, when we are marked as unequal, second-class editors from some users. -Unless such elements are pacified or expelled, situation won't be normal. -You also feel concerned about including, but not limited to Hungarian and German nationalism….
But, do you really think that is absolutely correct to delete whatever what you consider as inappropriate ? You have just deleted a link related to some historical photos /pictures of Trnava. Why instead of such approach you haven’t put an alternative link (if exists) or put such photos directly at Wikipedia web site ?
I would have reverted changes made by you, instead of writing this e-mail, but I consider this way as more correct…
Any001 (talk) 21:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but adding links like this is something I consider spamming, or at least some "attempt"... Besides, anyone can Google them, so I don't consider reasons such as "to let more people know about us" as acceptable.
- If you'd like to put some photos direct or at commons, you should either have permission from authors (webmasters) for fair use or to release under free license. I have nothing more to say. MarkBA t/c/@ 21:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The last comment to the deleted "Trnava Historical Pictures" topic
OK, but there is no public “gallery of Trnava photos available on the net … I have spent a lot of time to find something in this field – you would try. Anyone can Google also other sites stated in the section “External Links” And the sentence about “"to let more people know about us" – it is just a bullshit; you seems to be really an arrogant person. I have no additional time to be spent with mirroring / copy-pasting whatever.
Have a nice day, I have also nothing more to say to you regarding this topic
Any001 (talk) 22:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC) P.S. The answer related to the following topic:
- Sorry, but adding links like this is something I consider spamming, or at least some "attempt"... Besides, anyone can Google them, so I don't consider reasons such as "to let more people know about us" as acceptable.
- If you'd like to put some photos direct or at commons, you should either have permission from authors (webmasters) for fair use or to release under free license. I have nothing more to say. MarkBA t/c/@ 21:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- OK, be that way then. Just be careful to not let your tongue slip. You don't know how it's under-appreciated removing spam links here. MarkBA t/c/@ 22:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- I do not like to speak with ghosts without an identity… Any001 (talk) 23:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
So, finally: enjoy your fight with all incompetent Slovak editors, Spammers, Hungarian & German Nationalists & the rest of the hostile Word Any001 (talk) 23:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Names in Trenčín article
Hi, I've used the format I've seen in other articles (e.g. Vienna) for it gives you a chance to see more foreign names. The German and Hungarian names may be historically important, but currently, when more than 90% of population is Slovak and this is English encyclopaedia, they probably do not belong anywhere else except for the history section if there.--Svetovid (talk) 09:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- As you wish, but I don't know if it's going to be usable for long (excluding bilingual areas) for two reasons: 1. There are only few Slovak towns there at this time... 2. There'll be always someone who may insert them back any time, and it's not worth being blocked from something like that. Another option would be to insert etymology section, if some information about origin is known. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 15:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Climate tables
Hi Mark, thank you for adding climate tables to the articles about Slovak cities. Although the tables themselves look cool, there is a little problem with the layout. Introduction of the climate tables creates a large chunk of blank space in MSIE and Opera because these tables are placed after the end of a long geobox. In Firefox, a part of the table is not visible because it is hidden behind a geobox. The only solution I know would be to expand articles, so the whole climate section would be placed after the end of a geobox (see Banska Bystrica). Since his solution is not very likely to be achieved, I wonder if you know how to change the size of a weather infobox. Or do you have any other idea how to fix the layout? Thanks. Tankred (talk) 16:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- The Firefox problem can be resolved by putting {{-}} before the weather infobox template. It still creates a chunk of blank space, but at least both the geobox and the weather infobox are visible. See my edit of Trencin. Tankred (talk) 21:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
My RfA
Thanks for your support at my request for adminship, which passed today with 42/0/0!
I would like to thank Wizardman for nominating me, MarkBA/Archive 1 and everyone else for their support and comments. I'll continue with contributing to the encyclopedia's content (hopefully writing an FA here and there :) and will help out with admin-related tasks which you just entrusted me with. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask! |
Portal:Slovakia
Hi Mark, do you know by any chance how to change selected articles in Portal:Slovakia? We now have one featured and three good articles and I think it would be better to present them there than Grassalkovich Palace and Moric Benovsky. Unfortunately, I do not know how to edit a portal. Tankred (talk) 15:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot. I have updated the featured article (per your request not to Bratislava, but to Gerlachovsky stit) and the list of recent DYKs. Tankred (talk) 03:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
I award you with this barnstar for continuous effort in the WikiProject Slovakia. Keep working! ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 20:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC) |
Thanks. It's at least a minor praise for my work. I've thought that I'm slowly a sort of "no one" here. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 21:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Košice
I think you have done a lot of good work on Košice. The article looks much better than it used to. But there is still much to do before the article can be submitted for a GA review. My two cents: The list of sacral buildings should be rewritten in prose and integrated in the main Sights section. Some of the sub-sections in Culture are far too stubby. The Education section can be expanded following the example of Banska Bystrica. I will try to add some information into the Politics section. Cheers. Tankred (talk) 03:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Ahoj MarkBA,
I think there are some important thing in Kassa's history which they are not in this article.
There was the first Hungarian peridocal called Magyar Museum in the whole uhorsko in the 18th century. This city was the most important center of the Hungarian culture and the Hunngarian language innovation movement.
Besides the Czechoslovak Legions killed Hungarian and German people on 15 March 1919 because they protested against of the Czechoslovak occupation.
On top of there is in the article:East Slovak Ironworks caused population the city were built. and the construction and expansion of the East Slovak Ironworks caused population growth from population of 60,700 in 1950 to 235,000 in 1991 and in the end it was the fifth largest city in Czechoslovakia. In fact the East Slovak Ironworks was built because the Czechoslovak government wanted to change the proportion of the ethnic groups in the city.why isn't it in this objective article?
--Famous people--
Can you tell me why were so few Hungarian famous people born live and death in this city over the past 1000 years? Although its true there are some unknown Slovak sportsman and artist but it isn't probably that they are inhabitants.
Cheers Dovidenia Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.209.210.153 (talk) 11:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- [dubious ], [citation needed], [original research?], [clarify], [neutrality disputed], ... Find yourself another hobby, I'm not your slave! MarkBA what's up?/my mess 19:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Ahoj Mark from Pozsony,
You believe me I did not want to write you today because this website does not so social website as the facebook or the myspace or the iwiw.hu. But what you did on the famous people of the Kassa page (English wikipedia) was very usefull. I know a lot of famous people of Kassa and Pozsony but I can not write English so well as you. However You can not read the Hungarian sources and it would be important if you would like to write good articles from the cities of the historical Hungary. And it is probably that you never heard about these famous people before in Slovakia. You wrote :Please try to include links to created articles next time. The most important link is the Kassa article in the Hungarian wikipedia. Could you read it? Cheers Dovidenia Nmate
- What I meant in the edit summary has already been pointed out - try to create articles to avoid red links like this. Yes, do not try to give long descriptions, I've copy-edited that twice. For sources, one of the basic principles is to adhere to WP:NPOV. And just a point: it would be a sign of respect if you could address me with modern names of cities, just as I don't use my own anachronisms. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 19:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi MarkBa,
I read about history of kosice(kassa) in this article and I think that few thing happened in kosice(kassa) from 1300 to 1918. It is so as somebody would be copied this history in it from a Slovak guidebook.It is on deail that what built there. I can translate these things from Hungarian but I can not write English so well as you or Tankred and it is important that the new informations that join to the article.
Al the best from Hungary.Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 08:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi there. I´m replying from an IP this time because I´m away - if yeh think it´s important to understand the history of the city, well, go ahead while keeping a balance and try to give sufficient and as much as possible neutral sourcing and someone will do a copyedit sooner or later. 85.242.255.31 (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
can I send you something?
Hey Mark, if you give me some address in your country where I can reach you (you could give me a school address or something, does not have to be yours) I can send you a copy of a study by Katarina Vanekova called "Nation Formation in Education: The Case of the Czech and Slovak Republics". Email me at lazio_gio@easy.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.97.88.85 (talk) 10:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- 1. Can I know why are you making such offer, i.e., what is the reason? 2. Regardless of intentions, we
neverdon't give out personal data like (post) addresses, whether real or fictional. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 10:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- And by the way, I don't know what is that exactly about. You may consider it silly, but I need to know if it has some value for me. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 17:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hungarian nationalism
Dear MarkBA,
You are here fortunately, so the English Wikipedia content has been protected from Hungarian nationalist. But its true that all cities and villages native name are Hungarian in the Slovakia. There is a Hungarian joke that whole Slovakia's only history is possible to send in a short mobile phone's text message.
All the best from mad'arsko.
Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 16:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Now what is this supposed to mean? To tell something useful or just to "embarrass" me? MarkBA what's up?/my mess 17:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Dear MarkBA,
Sorry, I didn't want to go mad You and I do not think that You would be my slave. But I think what You think about of historical Hungary It is perjudiced and anachronistic. Maybe because you are a slovak man and you were born in Slovakia. It is true that you have been worked a lot in the wikipedia articles and you can write and speak English very well. But for example that was not good after I had written to the Charpatian German's discussion page and You erased It. Otherwise I do not want to trouble You (without occasion). All the best from mad'arsko.Nmate
- Fine, but what are you trying to prove me now? Actions like this don't go unnoticed... MarkBA what's up?/my mess 16:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Your recent edits
If I remember correctly you were there on the Pozsony county talk page when consensus was made in this question and you participated in the discussion where it was shown that the name you try to push now is basicly only used on Svetovid's sandbox. I will not revert you any more but I'm sad to see you make such actions repeatedly. Hobartimus (talk) 15:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? Never mind that I don't needlessly provoke and this was a damned, yes, only a damned portion from what have you done. Besides, be glad that I'm not using "incorrect" name at least. For my God please start respecting non-Hungarian opinions, then I maybe can talk normally to both of you and I haven't seen that yet (merciless reverts are good illustration). A good example is the article on Hedviga Malinová case (or Hedvig Malina if you wish), reverting any improvements, and by the way, it's not correct now. If you're sad about my much more rare engages in this, then believe I'm VERY sad, even disheartened what are you doing now, and often abusing your advantage in numbers, still pretending to be the regional kings. And finally: for normal edits I'm attacked because... (blah, blah, blah). Do you think it's fair, normal? MarkBA what's up?/my mess 21:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- What am I talking about? I'm talking about this one issue the naming of a county. This was debated before and in that debate Mike Gogulski a Slovak editor wrote "Even the Slovak sources I've seen use the Hungarian name for the county. — Mike Gogulski ↗C•@•T↗ 23:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)" The debate was about EXACTLY the same issue that recently came up between us after your edit [8] the question if Pressburg county or Pozsony county should be used. I came here on this issue and there is absolutely no need to throw around insults like "still pretending to be the regional kings". Hobartimus (talk) 03:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Whether one or other is used, that doesn't make a big difference, but, I think Pressburg or better yet, Posonium is a more neutral name between our POVs. Sorry, but I think it's a waste of time, chewing fat about one edit. I don't like to go into issues like this, but when I feel it's needed, then I'll do. So, is there anything else to discuss? And yes, my previous words are still correct. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 06:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I just wanted you to understand that my edit was suppported by a number of things including "Slovak sources" according to Gogulski, as well as consensus and there was no reason to call that edit disruptive in an angry edit summary or to make general attacks above. This is not a POV issue at all, multiple policies guidelines regulate issues such as this already, but as I said discussion on this is over, just wanted to explain that my edit was well supported so maybe you view it in a different light and not so negatively as to warrant angry responses. Hobartimus (talk) 07:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- [dubious ]... MarkBA what's up?/my mess 19:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I just wanted you to understand that my edit was suppported by a number of things including "Slovak sources" according to Gogulski, as well as consensus and there was no reason to call that edit disruptive in an angry edit summary or to make general attacks above. This is not a POV issue at all, multiple policies guidelines regulate issues such as this already, but as I said discussion on this is over, just wanted to explain that my edit was well supported so maybe you view it in a different light and not so negatively as to warrant angry responses. Hobartimus (talk) 07:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Hviezdoslavovo namestie
Hi MarkBA!I found the article about this square on wikipedia and I have source about squares and streets history of this city in old style Hungarian language.My source contents 25 pages about history of this square and the theater which is on the square .I began to transnlate It but will You check It in English.(of course if You have free time)'Cheers Dovidenia Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.209.242.181 (talk) 09:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- As you wish, but please don't forget to cite it, as without this someone will tag it as uncited or remove it altogether. Also, much of the problems are caused by your poor command of English, a fact which you even admit, but bear in mind that if this is continuous, people will lose their patience and usually will send you elsewhere. Yes, I do know you have an account on hu.wiki, (contribs), so it's possible that someone will recommend you to try such edits out in your native language before "messing" here. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 10:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi MarkBA!It is true that You can write English well but You or Tankred or Svetoid dont know the history of historical Hungary at all and so You write to the wikipedia about this country's history.Besaides Your Slovak sources are not seriouses. I won't write to there if this articles will be seriosly then now. If you know only Stúr and Safarik and Juro Janosik then you can not write articles about history of historical Hungary. 'Cheers Dovidenia Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 11:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Careful. What you're trying to tell me is called WP:POV. Such statements discourage from normal editing and turn people into warriors and can cause that no one of us will ever take ya seriously. Ad sources: Hungarian aren't quite superior, so pick your words more carefully before saying something like this again. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 11:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi MarkBA!Sorry if You think I was impolite with you. But for example if You have not heard about Ferenc Deák in your life then You can not write articles cities history of historical Hungary from the 19th century at all.You live in Pozsony now. Could you tell me 5 mayor of the city before 1919? You can not find them in your Slovak sources.Why do you think that the Hungarian sources are not good? Maybe is your grandmother a Hungarian and so You know Hungarian a little bit too? I know about the Slovak's historybooks that Slovak only history is very few so the Slovak historians have to tell a lie or steal from Hungarian history.I saw a table on the castle of Pozsony : Bratislavsky hrad Slovenska Narodne Pamiatka.It is very funny.Besides I heard about Frantisek Knapik appointed Juro Janosik for mayor of Slovak army after He death for 300 years.Congratulations!Do you think that from your Slovak sources it is possible to write serious articles? Because you can write English well it is not enough there. 'Cheers DovideniaNmate
- Badly trivial information for encyclopedia, knowing mayors of the city... Again, that's yer POV and what ye want to tell is a Hungarian propaganda. And yes, joke's over, otherwise I won't be so kind. Don't say that I haven't warned you. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 13:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi MarkBA!Is it a Hungarian propaganda that if You want to write articles about history of historical Hungary then you have to know these people (not mayors) who have had huge influence on his age's history ? For example have You heard about Ferenc Deák? Otherwise I do not want to provoke You.Only If You do not know history of historical Hungary then you can not write articles about it with your very good command of English. 'Cheers DovideniaNmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 14:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Very sad to see you going such way... I guess you've mistaken English and Hungarian wikipedias. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 15:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Ahoj moj Slovák priatel'! I do not understand why are you sad. It is possible that your articles are seriouses but They are one-sideds and incompletes.In fact Hungarian propaganda is not in your English and Slovak articles. I am going to read your Slovak wikipedia's articles too. I hope You are not angry me because I absolute do not agree with you . Ináč ja ne som protislovenský.'Cheers DovideniaNmate
- Jó napot. "Interesting" of you trying using various forms of greetings. However, I'm sure you as well as I want to spend time doing useful contributions, not sitting and arguing. In any case, you won't find much from me at sk.wiki. Comparing our differences and opinions, let's close them as: we agree to disagree, right? Viszontlátásra. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 16:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Važeny Pan MarkBa! The argue is closed but if I recommend You there is an article about Hviezdoslavovo namestie. It is so empty and You dont make it lonly with Your good command of English without sources.I have serious source about It and We could make it together.DovideniaNmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.209.245.86 (talk) 17:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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Dear MarkBA! What does it mean dubious references? Maybe can you read Hungarian indeed? Nmate
- Dubious is used for disputed in accuracy, value etc. No I can't but I don't consider it trustworthy for several reasons and therefore I removed them. Also, references in English are preferred, though, it's true that this isn't always possible. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 19:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Važeny MarkBA!Could You write me, which were these Your reasons ? I can Slovakian more better as You Hungarian!Nmate
- First of all, no data who exactly wrote those books. URLs also look weird. As said, better are English sources (with some exceptions). In any case, the history shouldn't be more expanded because of size. And I would like to ask you to refrain from negative comments to other people like this or here. They can be counted as personal attacks. And two style comments: use yer user name, not switching between it and the IP and sign your comments (~~~~, see WP:SIGN). MarkBA what's up?/my mess 20:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
It is flattering that You read my other discussions besides You read history of my other discussions.Will You do not believe about me that I am a Slovak too.Otherwise I wrote to Tankred that I think He is clever.These my discussions Weren't personals only It was mirrored my opinion about Slovakia own history.I think It is useless if I have argue Romans or Slovaks about history.I finished my personal attacks.Nmate
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-- Bratislava article (history chapter)-- Dear MarkBa! I do not want to provoke You but I know Jan Lacika Slovak author's books and I think them to use refering to the history is not fortunate.For example there is the 19th century and the earlier 20th century: it is not good even in an reduced version of history also that from there lots of important public offices moved to Buda and the city became the center of the Slovak national movement and there was the first Slovak newspaper. Then there were lots of industrial improvement and Czechoslovakia was followed finally.This article does not tell a lie about this event only it represents the truth in false colour.Although L'udovit Stúr was not so important leader of the Slovak nation as Andrej Hlinka in the 20th century.His national movement was isolaited In his life at the Slovak population so It is not important in an reduced version of history.I have to add 5 sentences to the 19th century.All the best. Nmate (talk • contribs)
- Sorry, but the history shouldn't be expanded more. And I'm afraid your changes could be reverted or removed. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 13:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- And just as you consider our sources unreliable, I can do the same about yours. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 13:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I write You that I read some Jan Lacika's books. But You can not read the Hungarian books.Otherwise my newer editing will be better in English and I am not going to huge change once.This article's history chapter is very incorrect because the Hungarian historical events are missing from it.Otherwise You shold not be so laconic when You write your opinion. Nmate (talk • contribs)
- That's not much of a reason. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 14:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I do not know that You which parts of my opinion wrote this answer. Nmate (talk • contribs)
It would create POV and bias. Anyway, can you slow down with your messages? I don't wanna spend half of my time replying to ye and it's not my objective either, i.e., I don't need to get 5 messages a day. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 18:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I accept that You would not like spend half of Your time replying me but will You write me why is it important this parts of sentence : (which was threatened by Hungarian troops of Béla Kun at that time).Because It is not same if a troop threatened a city or an another troops which captured the city.I do not think that Hungarian troops could threatened Pozsony.I am not going to write You on this week again.Nmate (talk • contribs) —Preceding comment was added at 19:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Bratislava Castle
I noticed what is happening at the page for Bratislava Castle and think you should consider reporting User:Nmate. He/she is being very distruptive.--DerRichter (talk) 22:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
DYK Krivan
Thanks. I'm rather oblivious of what you suggest: whatever you may do about it will be fine. ilmari (talk) 23:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
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Why did you revert and with that edit summary? As far as I know, for old Hungarian counties we use the Hungarian names. Squash Racket (talk) 11:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- Because you are disrupting to prove your point. And in any case, what is wrong with our usage? It isn't anachronism anyway. Please start being more respectful to Slovak users, otherwise no one will talk to you normally, is that clear? You have so far failed to do so, so next time think twice what will ya say, capiche? MarkBA what's up?/my mess 11:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- You have done the same. Again, you are wasting time of good editors. If you want to ravage freely, may I point you to the Hungarian version where you can do this with nobody caring? And yes, your band has started almost all of useless wars. That's a sad fact you shouldn't ignore. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 12:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- You are a "good" editor and others are "bad" (talking about respect). "Ravage freely" (being respectful and very civil). Should we talk about who started edit wars and who was disruptive in detail?
- Rather delete my comments from your talk page than answer(?) like that. Squash Racket (talk) 12:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- No one spoke about categorization of good and bad editors - red herring again. I said, there was nothing extraordinary about my (original) edit. From all of this, I want to know one answer: why you are destroying absolutely normal edits and then accusing me/Svetovid/whoever of wrongdoing/vandalism/whatever? Warning: I'm not here to amuse you. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 12:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Don't you think that you called my edit disruptive first when you were changing to a less accepted version than mine? And Svetovid called Hobartimus a vandal (for no reason, again) which I only pointed out in my edit summary? Read the page history please. Initial attacks/accusations came from the both of you. Squash Racket (talk) 13:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- You have all that wrong, I haven't started all this. I understand Svetovid's frustration because you two are blocking his improvements and using even incorrect name to push your own agenda, and that's the truth, not any damned personal attack. Can you finally refrain from using tactics like this and behave normally so no one has to explode? The chance as I see it now is maybe 5%. I want to have a free hand from your "actions" and edit normally, not losing time shouting comments slowly similar to assholes. I only hope you will think about this and change your ways. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 13:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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I ask you again: don't answer at all or delete this whole section rather than talking about "changing my ways" and that you "understand Svetovid's frustration" after you saw what had really happened. He only reverted the county's name to a less correct version, still called Hobartimus a vandal in the edit summary. Now that's frustrating. Squash Racket (talk) 13:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- ..."less correct version"... Political correctness, my dear... I find this whole debate useless. I think you should go back to Hungarian wiki as there you have no limits of throwing Hungarian POV. You seem to be angry/surprised when someone challenges your edit(s). Now I don't wonder that no user has been able to normalize types like you. Period. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 13:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- The title of the article is Pozsony county. Sending others away is a sign of respect or a personal attack? How would you feel if I sent you "back to the Slovak wiki, where you can push Slovak POV"? I have good relationships with everyone here except for 2-3 users (I guess just like you do).
- Again: you can remove this section if you want to, but don't close it with the words you do: go away, you are POV, angry/surprised, normalize types like you etc. You think these are not all personal attacks? This is "normal" and "respectful" to you? Squash Racket (talk) 13:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Last question: show me how constructively have you contributed to the Slovakia-related topics. No further comment is necessary. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 14:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- You know that most of the articles dealing with the Kingdom of Hungary are to some extent Slovakia-related, so I don't know if that question is serious. For example an opinion after several of my edits at that article. I always try to edit constructively. You know articles in which you think I was intentionally unconstructive? Squash Racket (talk) 14:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- To other areas you edit constructively, but on Slovakia-related I don't think so. For example why so much fuss about Ányos Jedlik or currently Hedviga Malinová (ok, then Hedvig Malina if you wish)? You might tell me in both cases: "they are Hungarian", but why then you have objected to the edit by User:WizzardSK, when he added some references to the "Slovak" side? I want an explanation. Yes, the question is serious. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 14:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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If I remember well I reached (at least a temporary) concensus at the Ányos Jedlik page right after WizzardSK presented one English language source. Both Slovak users involved thanked me too on the talk page. You can see the edits since: some don't agree and I can't promise this is the final version. Some of the Slovak sources seemed unreliable (for example the page of a nuclear power plant), so I asked for at least one English source.
At the Hedvig Malina page you can see Svetovid is deleting a number of sources he doesn't like, then puts a refimprove tag on the article in the very same edit, argues to keep a blog in the article as a reliable reference etc. He mixes some copyediting with deleting important information and if you have enough of analyzing his edit again and again and simply revert it, he calls you a vandal. Squash Racket (talk) 15:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- That's one part. Another thing is: why have you deleted all but German foreign names from Hungarian articles like Gyor or Pécs, without leaving link to Names of European cities in different languages, while at the same time you reverted Svetovid's changes to Trenčín, when he at least left that link? You might tell me about differences, but don't wonder it has angered some. I also thought it was a double standard. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 15:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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- No knowledge doesn't excuse, as I would say. Half million is, but mostly in the south. So while at, say, Komárno I would expect such reaction and some fire arrows, in the aforementioned example I wouldn't. Well, we have gone too much over... I say, we should return to editing instead of debating here. I just hope that there won't be so many hot debates in the future... (but one never knows) MarkBA what's up?/my mess 19:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for DYK. ilmari (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. It may be too late, but there is an article up for deletion, Lobby (Eurodance band), at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lobby (Eurodance band), as unverifiable. I have found one presumably Slovakian secondary source, here. I wonder if it would possible for you to read through that source just to see whether or not the band up for deletion meets the WP:MUSIC guidelines. There is a chance the debate will close and the article be deleted before you or somebody else would be able to do so, but there is some concern that the article may be meeting systemic bias since editors at the AfD cannot find Slovakian sources, and I would very much like to know that we've given it a fair shot. I'm watchlisting your page. Please let me know whether or not you can help. If not (and the article still stands), I'll look for somebody else with the linguistic skills. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hi there. I'm afraid I won't help much for saving the article, even though I know Slovak. I've read that article and most likely it isn't quite up to the criteria. It says it produced five albums (although here for example I see only four), and had a tour in Mexico, but in 2001 it had broken up. A former member has also said that Slovak radios stopped playing any dance music at the time of break-up and that they were several times nominated for various awards, but they have won none of them. So I'm afraid this one will have to go, if something better isn't found. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 20:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Hey. Just in case you are not watchlisting it, I just now added their label for two of their albums, which I believe allows the article to stay based on WP:MUSIC criterion #5. --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
In any case, I'm not expert at music, and especially like this. So if it helps, well then, if not, then not. I won't take a part in this AfD. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 20:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your assistance. If the article had said they had won some major musical award, it might have been sufficient. I do appreciate your reading through it. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I offer my thanks, too! --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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Nice article, thanks for spotting it! Espresso Addict (talk) 03:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
OK Štrba and ŠP
Good that you fixed that, I was partly just rewording (obviously dated) info that already was at ŠP; a good link at Štrba, too. ilmari (talk) 22:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello friend
The Slovak Ribbon of National Merit | ||
I, Baldy, award you this SLovak National Merit Award for your work on Slovakian related articles. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC) |
Remember those old days of working together?? How is life in SLovakia? Time goes so quickly -it feel slike only a week or two it was November 2006 again!!! You must be nearly 16 by now aren;t you? Great to see all this time you have done much to improve coverage of SLovakia on wikipedia!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hi there. Although I don't know if you are reading talk pages often, well, thanks for praise. But one is true - although much has changed, and some articles got recognition, overall, it hasn't been without troubles. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 23:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
COuld you elaborate a little? What difficulties have you been encountering? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Mostly Hungarians (although it sounds unbelievable). Unfortunately it's a reality - from what I know these conflicts have been dragging on for years, sometimes more, sometimes less intense. Of course it isn't widespread in the sense of all areas, but it can be a nuisance. But still, this doesn't stop the general improvement - Bratislava is an FA now, Banská Bystrica and Gerlachovský štít are GAs, and others were improved (but I think some could go into GAs soon). You have probably noticed that I'm writing Slovak authors and poets right now and so we have met again. Cheers, MarkBA what's up?/my mess 13:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I find that unusual. Hungarian editors are pestering you? Well I can assure you have nothing to worry about and I;m certain most other editors feel the same that you are much appreciated in this project. I thought you wer eonly into towns and transport -I didn't realise you also wrote biogrpahies -your're something of a polymath like myself. I added an image to Ján Chalupka anyway to keep you happy ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not constantly; as said, however, it can be a nuisance keeping them at bay. So you see - I primarily write about towns (now not so much about transport, but sometimes I do), but I'm also interested in geography in general, and a bit of history and biographies. Thank you for adding the image; I don't know much about fair use so I don't mess with it. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 16:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
A query. Can you make sense of Zeleno zvono? I thought it was Slovak but I might be mistaken ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- From the content, I assume it's Serbian. It is for sure an advertisement MarkBA what's up?/my mess 16:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Well i could see it wasnt czech. Give me a bell if you need images to illustrate your articles on people ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Let's try... As for now I'd be glad if some images (whether fair use or free) for: Jozef Ignác Bajza and Ladislav Nádaši-Jégé. The latter may be bit more complicated (well when you made such an offer...). MarkBA what's up?/my mess 17:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
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Cool! ilmari (talk) 16:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I added two references. — As to the other issue, there seems to be reasonable interest in some of the more specific topics that may look unlikely at first sight if the context is right, e.g., the recent interest in Burger (100-200/day), the "lucky strike" with AFK that you started (a steady stream of 10-20 since two points turned up that could be meaningfully cross-listed in a couple of frequented places), quite a few of the geo pages that don't automatically seem "major" topics (BB 100-150; Poprad 50-60; Gerlach 50-90), the anthem (40/day for months) etc. Most ultrabroad topics like "the history / society / culture / nature... of X" look like hack jobs − written and rewritten by too many, contested, unmanageable. ilmari (talk) 05:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Your wikibreak
Skoda, nechces si to rozmyslet? ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 22:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I think I have rubbed my nerves enough and my patience is over at both of the fronts (that means also with community which I think hasn't done anything). Though I won't disappear completely, this one may be short as few days, or long as one or two months. As such, I've explained my reasons in the red boxes to tell what are the reasons and basically I'm unhappy with the way Wikipedia is going. Really, thank you but I think I need a break before I'll explode. MarkBA what's up?/my mess 22:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)