User talk:Marcia Wright

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Contents 1 BK article 2 re: BK page 3 Snow Mountain Wilderness 4 User templates 5 re: Use template/ Lake Pillsbury article 6 Reservoirs project 7 What does it mean to expand? 8 RE: Justin Kreutzmann 9 Hi Marcia 10 Speedy deletion 11 Welcome to WikiProject Plants! 12 Thankyou for the Welcome and a question 13 AIV 14 Redwood National and State Parks

[edit] BK article

Greetings, Marcia Wright. Thanks for the comment on my talk page.

Hey, do you have a photo of BK that would be appropriate for his article? If you have one that you took yourself, you could upload it and give it a license that would allow it to be used on Wikipedia, and add it to the article. Be aware though that if you do that, it would generally mean that you're giving people permission to use the image wherever they want, not just on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Image use policy#User-created images and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#For image creators. (If you reply here I will see what you wrote.) — Mudwater 02:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: BK page

Thanks Mudwater for your reply and yes I have a bunch of em. I understand about the licensing and would choose a photo with that in mind. I am brand new here at this so please bear with me. There are alot of details that could be added to that page-just from Dennis Mcnally's book alone. Marcia Wright (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I forgot to say, welcome to Wikipedia. Take your time getting comfortable, and practice editing on your user page, like I can see you're doing. On the other hand, don't be too shy about editing articles. You can start with small changes and build up from there. Have you read the Tutorial yet? That's a good, quick introduction to the basics, and it has links to more information too. See also Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Writing better articles.^[1]

Notes

Thanks for the photo! See also my reply to your post on my talk page here. Unless you'd rather that I reply on your talk page, I'll reply to any of your posts on my talk page there, under your posts. — Mudwater 16:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Snow Mountain Wilderness

Hi. Re "Snow Mountain Wilderness", I've replied here on my Talk page. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 06:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I've replied here on my Talk page. (If you'd prefer that I not leave you these little alerts when I reply on my own Talk page, let me know.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User templates

Hi Marcia. I was looking at your user page and I noticed the "user committed identity" template. I hadn't seen one of those before. Pretty cool. Also, you may know about this already, but try adding "{{User WPA}}" and "{{Wikipedia:WikiProject_California/Userbox}}" (without the quotes) to your user page. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

"Wikipedians in Northern California" is a category. You can see it displayed right near the bottom of your user page (because categories are always displayed at the bottom). That's cool, but the two templates I'm talking about will add "user boxes" wherever you put them on your user page. Those are little rectangles that, in this case, will say that you're a member of WikiProject Protected Areas and WikiProject California, respectively. Try them out and see. Not a big deal but I think you might like them. (Just to make things a bit more complicated, each user box template will also add a category to your user page.)

Yeah, the notable peaks table was fun. I've edited tables before, but this might have been the first time I wrote one from scratch, so I learned more about them.

I too find being an editor to be quite addictive. But at least it's a somewhat constructive addiction. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

If you are talking about those boxes that run down the right side of users pages that say things like " this user speaks English" and "this user lives in the United States" etc etc., I think they are referred to as baubels?? and I care not for them. They waste space and are just eye candy. If a user wants to tell about themselves, pull out the keyboard and type a graph or two. I would much rather read original thought than look at a graphic, OK I will step down off my soapbox now-sorry if I sound too opinionated-nothing personal, I just believe a user page should give a good sense of that user-where are they coming from, what are their likes/dislikes/what are their goals etc.and most importantly-why ? (Whew! I need to get out more) Sincerely, your opinionated new user :Marcia Wright (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

That makes sense. And, your user page does say that you're a member of those WikiProjects anyway. Yes, artistic control over one's own user page is a good thing, and so is having a strong opinion about it. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Here's an article about Wikipedia, from the New York Review of Books. I really enjoyed reading it, and you might too. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: Use template/ Lake Pillsbury article

It's true that either method is acceptable for Wikipedia. I was being bold and changing it because I prefer the reflist template which sets the footnotes in smaller type, much like the footnotes in a book. If you prefer the references tag, feel free to revert my edit. I hope that clears things up. Stepheng3 (talk) 03:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reservoirs project

Sorry for letting myself overlook responding to you. It seems to me that we've found way to handle reservoir articles within the lakes project, especially with the geobox template. Daniel Case (talk) 17:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What does it mean to expand?

Marcia,

Some questions for you if you don't mind. What does it mean to expand? Broaden one's horizons? Educate one's self, or simply view new perspectives?

The questions are left vague by intention, but the original question spawned by the fact that we are both new Wiki users. I do not have an account, however.

You like so many others today were not raise with computers, yet succeeded in keeping pace with the incessantly new environment. It's like a tread mill that seems only to speed up. Where did we come from? Where are we going so quickly? More importantly, why aren't we really moving? These aren't things the average person thinks about when on the tread mill, I suppose. Does it mean they should? Why is it they jump on? To fit into a stereotype, or to explore what it feels like to ride a new wave of energy?

The Information Super Highway.....I can't help but think: "Where's the toll and what's it going to cost?" We've seen computers change the world before our very eyes. We strive to keep pace teaching our children about what life used to be like before even we forget. We cling to folk-tails that once enraptured us, but push away our young. We try to be the bigger person and compromise, desperately trying to learn as much about this world as they already know. My God, they learn so fast, yet it still seems like so little. Life isn't just an On-Off switch.

I cannot express how elated I am to discover new places in this infinite realm, especially when I see people who still treasure what's not displayed on an LCD. It's a genuine travesty that some people believe they can gather a complete experience of natural phenomenon through Google. No high-definition monitor, regardless of size, or Bose surround sound system could every replace what it truly feels like to stand beneath a redwood tree and absorb it's life. It scares me to think about how numb and removed they can be. It's as though they no longer have feeling. What will become of the trees when there is no one left to care for them?

Ah, another tangent. I will cut this short, as I have a real habit of going off for extended periods. For some reason, I feel assured that you will read this in it's entirety, and for that I am thankful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.15.99 (talk) 19:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Justin Kreutzmann

I userfied it to User:Marcia Wright/Justin Kreutzmann. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 18:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Marcia

Thanks for the visit, Justin is a great videographer and Who expert. Wikipedia deleted the page I created for him in 2005 as they've become very persnickety about who gets in. I think all his billboard chart and Who work warrants another try though. Best wishes and happy wiki-ing!

[edit] Speedy deletion

You uploaded an image to an article and to commons which has this copyright:[1]

Using this photo This photo and associated text may not be used except with express written permission from California Native Plant Society. To obtain permission for personal, academic, commercial, or other uses, or to inquire about high resolution images, prints, fees, or licensing, or if you have other questions, contact California Native Plant Society.

Image:Loch Lomond button celery.jpg Yet you state it can be used in the article because it "The thumbnail photo (128x192 pixels) on this page may be freely used for personal or academic purposes without prior permission under the Fair Use provisions of US copyright law as long as the photo is clearly credited with © Rick York and CNPS." Your usage is not a thumbnail, and does not qualify. --Blechnic (talk) 06:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Individual photographers do sometimes give permission for image use on Wikipedia, as I have seen a couple before. Just to be clear, though: you may have thought you uploaded the thumbnail to Commons, but you uploaded the full size image. In addition, Wikipedia does not qualify for educational or personal usage for the thumbnails. Most Calphotos images allow generous personal and educational use of the thumbnails, Wikipedia uploading does not qualify. Useful article, though. --Blechnic (talk) 01:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

You can use e-mail, but the requirements are strict. Some photographers will balk, others say yes. See Wikipedia:Permissions and [2]. When you ask for the use of native plant images do point out to the copyright holder how important it is to have a good source of information about the plants, and ask if they have another image, other than the Calphotos one, that they would consider offering. It's worth a try! --Blechnic (talk) 03:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to WikiProject Plants!

[edit] Thankyou for the Welcome and a question

This is the first project I've joined to say "Welcome" how refreshing!

A little background on this question first- I wrote a short article on Loch Lomond Vernal Pool Ecological Reserve and asked CNPS permission to use their photo of the Loch Lomond Button Celery (and made the dire mistake of uploading it before I had a response-won't do THAT again :)got seriously yelled at by your ole friend Blecknic-and rightly so).

OK, now (as of last night email download) I have a response from CNPS with a 2.5 mg photo attached of this lil cutey

BUT, he, Mr Jensen says I can use it, and to attribute to Rick York and state the copyright: CNPS.

My question: should I try to explain to Mr. Jensen the licensing details/requirements of Wikipedia? (I was assuming that the California Native Plant Society CNPS was already familiar with Wikipedia.)

P.S. I had not used Wikipedia's permission template/sample letter as I didn't know they existed then.

Sincerely, Marcia Wright (talk) 05:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Marcia! It's great to have you with us here on Wikipedia. I made a similar mistake when I was first starting out. There's quite a learning curve for newcomers here, and usually people are pretty pleasant and understanding. We even have a guideline for such cases: "Please do not bite the newcomers". Anyway, on to the question. I would say that some people are familiar with Wikipedia and it's image guidelines, but I would go ahead and try to utilize one of the sample letters. It contains all the key points. Most people, when approached, would say yes, assuming that they're releasing the photo for educational use only without any downstream usage, but Wikipedia considers such restrictions "not free enough". Upon hearing that, most image owners will decide not to allow the use of their photo. So I would say definitely ask for clarification from Mr. Jensen regarding the nature of the agreement. And then if you have an affirmative that he agrees to Wikipedia's license that allows commercial use, etc., I would follow the directions at WP:COPYREQ#When permission is confirmed. Alternatively, you might ask your fellow Californian Wikipedians to take a photo of this particular plant. User:Stan Shebs has taken many wonderful photos of California native plants and I know he has a backlog of photos to upload - he may very well already have a photo. User:IceCreamAntisocial is another user you might want to introduce yourself to; he's been making his way through a list of California plant species, creating short articles for them, including Eryngium constancei. Sometimes it's frustrating to get public domain images of plants. I'd eat my left shoe if someone would hand me a thumb drive full of Utricularia and Stylidium photos for each species. Well, best of luck! If you run into any further problems or have followup questions, feel free to ask. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 02:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AIV

Hello, I've removed your recent report at WP:AIV because that IP address hasn't made any edits yet today. Once they become active again, please feel free to report them, as they have received a final warning within the past day. Also, when making reports, please use the {{IPvandal}} or {{vandal}} template to make reports, as this provides us with easy working links to pages we have to check before making a block. Thanks. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redwood National and State Parks

"Redwood National and State Parks" is today's featured article on the main page. I think you should go out and celebrate with your buddies in WikiProject Protected Areas and WikiProject California. (I'm kidding around, but I do think it's kinda cool.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, a cool glass of vino under a giant Redwood tree would be the perfect celebration.  ;-) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)