Talk:Maryland Campaign

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I made some modifications to the recent large edits.

I have found nothing in my historical references that indicates Lee was motivated by the foreign recognition issue. In fact, he counseled Davis on occasion not to rely on an external intervention.
The sentence concerning "reaching Northern soil" discusses the lost order, which is covered in detail a couple of paragraphs down.
Lee's objective was not explicitly Pennsylvania; he had strong motivation to enter Maryland for purposes beyond simply getting to Pennsylvania.

Hal Jespersen 21:51, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

1 Whos campaign was this?
2 expansion
3 Battle of Mile Hill
4 Baltimore

[edit] Whos campaign was this?

The intro makes this sound as if was Union plan: It consisted of a series of maneuvers and battles that culminated in the repulse of Confederate General Robert E. Lee's first invasion of the North. But I think this was the Southern plan to invade the North and capture Washintom. Maybe I just don't understand military terminoly.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 03:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] expansion

I have expanded the article's introductory material substantially and added a campaign map. The reason I mention it here is that a recent edit added a number of paragraphs regarding fierce resistance in Maryland, and Baltimore in particular. I left some of that in, but edited it significantly, because it was written in a florid style that is unencyclopedic. The larger problem is that I cannot substantiate the claims made in the paragraph that survives and I have annotated it with "citation needed." If anyone is interested in providing such a citation, please do so before June 23 or I will be forced to remove the material. Please use the style of footnotes that is used in the article. Hal Jespersen 20:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

As promised, I have removed the unsourced material and replaced it with Baltimore info from Sears. Hal Jespersen 21:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Mile Hill

Hal, I noticed that someone created an article for the Battle of Mile Hill, a relatively insignificant cavalry engagement that often is considered as the first fight of the Maryland Campaign. It did open the way for Lee's occupation of Leesburg on September 4. Since the stub exists, perhaps you may want to add this battle to the template for the Maryland Campaign. Also, there were some larger cavalry actions during the campaign that have no articles (such as the fight at Quebec Schoolhouse near South Mountain, which I did as a wargaming scenario in my recent book on the Maryland Campaign). Scott Mingus 02:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not the 'owner' of the campaign templates, so you are welcome to make changes. I'd do this one for you, but since you're considering other additions, why not do them as a group? And can you flesh them out in this Campaign article as you do? Thanks, Hal Jespersen 16:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baltimore

removed the "baltimore was not a hotbed of secession" as it was unsourced. I have in my possesion a book by Daniel Carrol Toomey, Baltimore During the Civil War and it ontradicts the paragraph —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnoppinger (talk • contribs) 23:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

It is usually more polite to put in a {{fact|date=}} template request before ripping something out. I have restored the text and added a citation for the paragraph that did not already have one. (The earlier paragraph was already cited to James McPherson.) If the material you have contradicts these claims by two very prominent Civil War historians, you can add the appropriate information and citations. Hal Jespersen (talk) 00:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)