Talk:Mary DeMoss

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Contents 1 Mary Panton 2 Seekers of the lost 3 Notable 4 public records 5 Mary DeMoss Blows from Scientology 6 Blowing 7 Page protected

[edit] Mary Panton

Please add that she is now known as Mary Panton. Also, the part about bigotwatch.net etc isn't mentioned, but its mentioned in AMC ??? --Tilman 20:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Should we make a "Mary Panton" page that redirects to this? Or vice versa? wikipediatrix 20:08, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. Let's keep Mary DeMoss as the main page, since this is her "famous" name. I'm not even sure if "Mary Panton" is her real name. I suspect she used the name from the book Up at the Villa, because her own name shows all the nutty things she did against the LMT. There is a Mary De Moss listed in the clearwater phone book. --Tilman 06:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seekers of the lost

An IP claims that "Seekers of the lost" is not "our" Mary. The photograph does look like our Mary, but its not really a good photo. There is indeed a David and Mary DeMoss in Aurora, MO, where the domain [1] is registered (I searched with anywho.com). And of course there's still a Mary DeMoss in Clearwater. Thus, it is possible that the IP is correct. --Tilman 21:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable

Someone tagged this article alleging the subject is non-notable. I see no evidence for that so I am removing the tag.--Fahrenheit451 17:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] public records

According to [2], he real name is Mary Elizabeth DeMoss, DoB 05/20/1966. I have not been able to find a "Mary Panton" there. --213.73.114.112 (talk) 04:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mary DeMoss Blows from Scientology

Mary DeMoss/Panton has left Scientology. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD. [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.26.170 (talk) 09:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

A "source" referenced on Operation Clambake's message board, linked to from the Enturbulation message board, well, it's just not citable WP:RS, especially on a WP:BLP biography article. AndroidCat (talk) 13:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Recognise that, but worth keeping an eye on for when it appears in secondary media. Just thought people would be interested. If I believed it was worthy of inclusion at this time, I would've added it to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.26.170 (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it may be a while, if ever, before a solid reference surfaces unless they do something notable (to the press) outside Scientology. AndroidCat (talk) 03:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blowing

Apparently she has now left Scientology. [4] --Immovable Rod (talk) 00:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

And again, Mark Bunker on YouTube is just going by the same rumours as the rest of us, so until there's something definite, we just have to sit, wait and hope the best for her. AndroidCat (talk) 04:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

These rumors appear to be quite substantial. Apart from numerous unverified reports, her profile appears to have been taken down from at least one scientology related website. [www.our-home.org/marydemoss/index.htm](It still shows up in the cached google results for 'Mary DeMoss'.) Given the potential impact of this situation on her overall notability, I'd say there should be at least a note in her article regarding these rumors. --80.61.251.174 (talk) 03:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

We'd first need a cite in a WP:RS/WP:V source. Cirt (talk) 07:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Newest rumor is that she hasn't blown after all. ( http://theframeproblem.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/reader-it-is-unlikely-that-mary-demoss-has-left-scientology/ ) Counter-rumors don't disprove rumors but, eh, looks like we all have to wait for a credible source to get around to reporting on this.76.197.12.213 (talk) 19:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page protected

Currently a number of new users are adding unsubstantiated rumors to the article. This may be true or untrue, but the important detail for Wikipedia's purposes is whether it is reliably sourced to comply with our biographies of living persons policy. To allow for more discussion, and/or encourage users to wait for reliable sources, I've semi-protected this page for 24 hours. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you to Luna Santin (talk · contribs) for responding to my request at WP:RFPP. I updated the corresponding thread, at WP:BLPN. Cirt (talk) 07:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)