Talk:Martin of Tours

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[edit] concatenated articles

This is really addressed to Wetman, though others may help. I'm a tyro editor, so my very first edit was to provide a image of the Legend of the Cloak. It was on a banknote, but I had gained approval from the scanner to show it. A few days later it was gone. I notice that Wetman has many many articles and edits to his credit, so I ask in the spirit of "teach me" rather than complaint - why was my edit deleted? fyi the image can be seen here:- [1] LastCardLouis - lcl@sh3.org.au - 8th May 2007

[edit] Vandalism

I just edited out some joker's addition about Martin of Tours going to McDonald's every day. I think this article needs to be checked over because of vandalism. 19 September 2006

[edit] Two articles merged, for cleanup

As it now stands, this is two concatenated articles. Someone should go back to the Life and other primary sources and tidy it up. M.e 04:21, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Christmas fast

The German version of this page mentions that in the Middle Age Nov 11 was the last day before a 40-days fast period preceding Christmas.

[edit] Significance of one-half for Roman soldier

I read somewhere that Martin giving only half of his coat to the poor was related to the fact that in Roman military, half of the cloating was paid by the state (and Martin won't give away what wasn't his). Does anybody confirm this ?

[edit] 11th of November celebration aspects

Is the celebration on the 11th of november somehow related to Halowe'en? There are certain similarities:

  • (roughly) the time of year
  • lanterns (which are sometimes carved from sugar beets or turnips)
  • trick-or-treating

I'll ask this same question on Talk:Halloween as well. --Aalbert

According to other sources Martin of Tours died on November 8, but his burial was on November 11, by the way the same day that Martin Luther was baptised. November 11 has nothing to do with Halloween. Halloween is 'All Holy's E'ening' and is the evening before November 1. November 11 starts the carnival season. Therefore, in many areas in Germany's Rhineland St. Martin's Day is celebrated on November 8 instead. Perhaps this article could elaborate on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.52.132 (talk) 18:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flanders

Does this make sense? Also in the east part of the Belgian province of East-Flanders and the west part of West Flanders, --13:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Severius' attitude towards soldiers

Just wondering -- would it be worth it to mention Severus' attitude toward soldiers? The biography tends to downplay the fact that Martin was a soldier, which suggests that Severus shared the late antique hostility toward the army. (See Brown, Late Antiquity). The medieval hagiographers, of course, went in the opposite direction -- it might be an interesting compare and contrast. -- 9:09 CST, 20 February 2005

[edit] More suitable sources

The use of nineteenth century material is intolerable and the influence of the 1911 Britannica is deleterious. The following works seem indispensable for a proper understanding:

  • Jacques Fontaine, "Vie de saint Martin", in Sources Chretiennes, nos.133, 134, 135, published 1967, 1968, 1969.
  • Claire Stancliffe, "St.Martin and his Hagiographer, History and Miracle" in Sulpicius Severus, Oxford, 1983.

[edit] Cult of St. Martin

A separate entry is needed for the Cult of Saint Martin, which is an immense subject----Clive Sweeting.

We look forward to your thorough revamp of the article(s). --Wetman 05:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Duck association

I'm surprised there's no mention of the legend of the duck. He's often shown dressed as a bishop with a duck at his feet. 70.150.135.114 23:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Often? where?--Wetman 00:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

I'm fortunate enough to be IN Tours at the moment. I'll see if I can't snag some pictures of the cathedral, the basilique, and some iconography for article. CaveatLectorTalk 09:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)