Talk:Martín Alonzo Pinzón
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[edit] Lack of references
Your article makes many claims of stolen glory and of the great skill of the Pinzon brothers. However, the lack of references leads me to question the validity of these conclusions. Could you please point me toward some sources on the topic?- Shoe1127 21:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
This article claims Pinzon was a better seaman than Columbus. There has to be a citation in the article, or it can be regarded as "hearsay".--Ultrafan 15:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
It's correct that the article requires better references and citations. However, the claims made in the article have a certain amount of validity. There is some evidence, from Columbus's own comments,in his 'Diario', which point to the fact that Columbus was not an expert shipmaster and commander, on that first voyage in 1492-93. If Columbus's claim that he had more than twenty years of seagoing experience was true, it would suggest that he hadn't learnt as much as he should have, during his time at sea. From that, it can be inferred that Columbus relied on the experience and expertise of others to achieve his objectives and the Pinzon brothers would appear to have been the most likely candidates for that! J.Fowler —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.240.68 (talk) 13:45, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] it's Alonso not Alonzo
Alonzo is a quite typical Latin American misspelling that have reached to English speakers. In Spanish Alonzo and Alonso are pronounced in different way (Alonzo is pronounced "Alontho", th like in "thin"). The correct pronunciation is "Alonso" therefore the correct spelling is Alonso. This kind of misspelling are quite common in Latin American Spanish due the have merged the sounds 'c' and 'z' with 's', but in a pure Castilian Spanish this sounds are kept in the original way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.125.22.213 (talk) 14:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Month of Death inconsistent with references.
The Catholic 1913 has it as,
- The monarch refusing to receive anyone but the admiral, Pinzón sailed for Palos, which he reached on the same day as Columbus (15 March, 1493). Setting out immediately for Madrid to make a fresh attempt to see the king, he was met by a messenger who forbade him to appear at court. Anger and jealousy, added to the privations of the voyage, undermined his health, and led to his death a few months later.
(my bold). It is thus impossible for the date of "March" which is used across all the Wikipedia language versions to be true. What is it ?. November has been used before but I'd like a cite. It certainly doesn't look like March. Ttiotsw (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
