Talk:Marquis de Condorcet
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[edit] Girondists and Montagnards
"Girondists who favored a peaceful reconstruction of France" hmmmm.... this phrase is embarrrassing to say the least : Ok it the Girondist were less radical than the Montagnards but the Girondist voted for war while Robespierre was opposed... Is war a peaceful reconstruction ? Ericd 23:37, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I think even "the moderate Girondists, and the more radical Montagnards" is problematic. Ultimately the Montagnards moved in a more radical direction, and certainly the government embrace of terror was a Montagnard invention, but in terms of policies, and especially early in the Convention, I would not say that the Montagnards were at all clearly more radical. I'm going to stick the {{expert}} tag on this one, because I don't think I'll have time to do much work on it myself.
In short, the biographical details seem fine, but we could use some work on the political background. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:27, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Disambiguation
I changed Condorcet into redirect, and moved the text there to the Condorcet (disambiguation) page.
--Thorsen 19:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unusually for French noblewomen?
"Unusually for French noblewomen, she was erudite, intelligent, and well-educated". It was actually part of the education of a young girl of noble birth to learn foreign languages, especially italian, in order to sing some operas tunes. Also they were often erudite, as the example of Mme De Stael, or even Mme de Maintenon a century before shows it. It is a "cliché" to portrait the noblewomen as illiterate. They enjoyed litterature and arts as much as the men did. PaulOgier 22:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Ahead of his time"?
The article currently says, "Ahead of his time in many respects as an 18th century thinker...". Born and dead in the 18th century, I'd think he was exactly in his time as an 18th-century thinker. Maybe this should be "Ahead of his time as a philosopher"? --ESP 21:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please don't use the standard 1911 template
As it turns out, it's inaccurate to use the 1911 template on this article. when I wrote the bulk of this article, I used the 1911 Encyclopedia as a reference, but was careful to take notes from a variety of sources, and wrote the article from that. No literal text was copied. I still sucked at citing sources in here, but was fantastic by 2002 WP standards ;-) -- RobLa 04:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
OK, but then shouldn't the EB article at least be listed as a reference? - Jmabel | Talk 05:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)I see, it is. I'll add a convenience link to an online copy. - Jmabel | Talk 05:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Arrest and Death
The commentary at the end of the Arrest and Death section seems highly speculatory. Which historians say this? Is the parenthetical material verifiable? If it is, this feels like it should be sourced. If it isn't, it shouldn't be there. 146.243.4.157 13:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
"perhaps because he was too loved and respected to be executed" Given that prominent, feared and popular men, like Danton and Desmoulins, have been beheaded, the death of a nobleman belonging to a much-suspected elite wouldn't have stirred a lot of troubles,if any. The judges wouldn't have had any problem in condemning him. 22:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Paul Ogier
[edit] 1911 Britannica
The 1911 Britannica entry on Condorcet is considerably better and more extensive than the current one. Maybe uniting the two would be a good idea? -- Palthrow (talk) 17:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
