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[edit] Comments by anon user
The user Eleemosynary has some kind of grudge against Simone and she frequently attacks this article and often makes inaccurate changes. Even Wikipedia founder James Wales has stepped in and personally undone some of her butchering of the article (6/22/06 at 19:38). She has even removed his corrections. --
- Wrong on all counts. This unsigned user has posted from several anon/vandal accounts (see below), in order to turn this page into a fan page for Simone. Eleemosynary 13:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
You keep claiming there was something wrong with the content. The Wikipedia Chairman, Jim Wales, personally put that content back, as anyone can verify by checking the article history for 6/22/06 at 19:38. The fact that Wales himself put that content back into the article proves that he felt it was appropriate material for Wikipedia. --
- Nice try, but no. Your "If I suck up to J. Wales, then maybe I can get Simone's PR back on the page" ruse has been documented, exposed, and refuted several times below. What's also been documented is your serial vandalism when you don't get your way. Consultation with Danny Wool has brought the page to its current NPOV state. Eleemosynary 21:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Again, you are ignoring reality. The Chairman and Founder of Wikipedia, James Wales personally put back the content you removed. HE decided you were wrong and HE personally undid your changes. He officially decided it was appropriate Wikipedia content. Your claim that you have a better sense of what belongs on Wikipedia then the founder of the site does, is obviously ludicrous. --
- These lies didn't work the last 97 times you tried them. --Eleemosynary 08:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Eleemosynary has removed factual information, because she "feels" it is not correct. The most recent example is a small one, but it happened today (1/4/07). She removed the sentence "Mark is a regular fill in for Sean Hannity on his show." She removed that claiming it's untrue. As any regular listener knows, he is Sean's most frequent guest host. In just the past few weeks, he has filled in 6 times. If you go to Hannity's own web site WWW.Hannity.com, his message board has a thread discussing Simone's fill-ins. The thread "Who filled in for Hannity on Dec. 8th" begins with a listener asking about the guest host and many respond by explaining that it's Mark Simone who is a regular fill in for Sean. --
- Hearsay on a message board is hardly an acceptable source. Find an acceptable source for any info you wish to include. This is not a forum for you to pad Simone's resume. Eleemosynary 13:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Eleemosynary, you are the one who got the information wrong. I called the WABC radio offices, where Hannity's show originates and was switched to his office. A woman I spoke to who was a senior producer on the program, confirmed that Simone was a frequent fill in for Hannity. She even gave me the most recent dates that he filled in - 12/21/06, 12/18/06, 12/08/06. These were the dates he filled in during December, which was from the schedule she still had available. So, you clearly have been caught again. You have gotten the facts wrong and have continued to destroy the accuracy of this article. --
- See above comment of mine, anonymous. Also, no personal research. Eleemosynary 07:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Eleemosynary, you are the one who got it wrong. You didn't do any research, you just took a wild guess. The hannity show office confirms the information, as does his message board. You are claiming it's wrong, based on no knowledge, just wishful thinking.
Would you care to explain to us, just exactly what your reason is for attacking this article, removing every bit of it that you can? --
Is that a no? You don't wish to tell us what the grudge is? Why you keep removing anything and everything you can from this article?
- If by "us," you mean your several anon IPs from which you (and you alone) have tried to load the page with PR and linkspam, then rest assured no one owes you an explanation. As for your accusations of a "grudge," you are assuming a fact not in evidence. And your baiting is tiresome. If you work for Simone, he has my sympathies. Eleemosynary 02:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How about a little criticism?
I live in New York, and every time I hear or see this guy, he makes the most inane comments. The "What a Week" show he does with that woman (name escapes me) is like watching two 12-year-olds discussing the news. Please, can we do some research and add some criticism of this guy? --24.199.67.217 20:20, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- On the other hand, there is little of any descriptive nature that would allow a reader to know Mr. Simone. For example, he is very knowledgeable and apparently has interviewed many famous people. He is extremely quick witted and very funny. For example, a discussion about children playing doctor lead Mark to interject that he used to like to play that realisticly -- he used to make the girl wait in the waiting room for an hour and a half first! He is also very even tempered and upbeat. So I'd like to see something added along these lines. --SafeLibraries 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This is not a PR Page
First of all, the above comment was previously censored by, I suppose, the same fools who wish to turn this into some PR page for Simone.
It's not going to happen.
All advertising info, PR, and hype will be reverted. Eleemosynary 07:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. Between this, and other related WABC pages about jocks and the station, it's like there are certain people who want to cheerlead about these items. That's not acceptable here. ErikNY 12:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Extensive PR/Advertising/Cheerleading has been reverted
Several anon editors (some with extensive vandalism histories) including (, ( and ) have tried to turn the Mark Simone page into an extensive PR campaign for the article subject. This follows a similar pattern regarding all Wikipedia entries for hosts and programs on WABC AM radio. I guess their PR Department has nothing better to do.
I've removed the PR/Press Release info, explained the reasons why in the Talk Page and article summaries, yet the vandals are reverting at will. The same vandals are blanking this very Talk page. Judging by their own Talk pages, they have a history of ignoring vandalism warnings. Eleemosynary 15:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Heads up to editors: Vandals are blanking this Talk Page
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- Wikipedia Chairman Jim Wales, himself, then performed the same exact blanking later that same day, so I assume he felt it was justifed. )
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- Nope. Jimmy Wales never blanked this Talk Page. You did. And, as you chose to edit the comments posted under ), we can now safely assume that you were vandalizing this page under both anonymous IPs. Thanks for saving us a lot of work. Eleemosynary 15:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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- JIM WALES DID BLANK THE PAGE, IN ORDER TO RESTORE IT, AT: 19:38, on 22 June 2006. ANYONE READING THIS, PLEASE LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF ON THE HISTORY PAGE TO VERIFY IT. -- )
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- Yes. Please check the Talk Page history. Jimmy Wales has never been here. He's reverted the article, but never blanked this page, as our anonymous guest is claiming in full-throated wail. Ouch. Eleemosynary 07:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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- CLARIFICATION: I think terms are getting mixed up here. A check of the history page of the article, shows that Wikipedia Chairman JimWales personally did indeed, at 19:38 on 22 June 2006, undo everything Eleemosynary had done to the article and reverted it to where it had been before Eleemosynary's attack on it. Immediately after that, Eleemosynary showed great disrespect to the Wikipedia Chairman by then destroying his revision. ) and ) (who are one and the same, as below).
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- The only one who's "mixed up" anything is you. I consulted with Danny (Jimmy Wales's assistant) after that reversion, and modified the article to include a bit more about Simone's career timeline. All the advertising/cheerleading/PR was removed. Much to your chagrin, apparently. So the "direspect" you whine about is as laughable a fraud as your attempts to use the article as an advertising page. In other words, what you're saying is: "Waaah! Waaah! I've been exposed as a vandal so I have to try to suck up to my betters using all my anonymous IPS! And I'm even failing at that! Waaah! LOL! Eleemosynary 18:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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THE USER ELEEMOSYNARY IS VANDALIZING THIS ARTICLE AND POSTING FALSE INFORMATION. FOR INSTANCE, HER CLAIM THAT THE "WHAT A WEEK" FEATURE IS NOT A DEBATE IS LUDICROUS. THE "WHAT A WEEK" FEATURE IS A DEBATE AND IS CLEARLY THAT, IS BILLED AS THAT, AND IS DESCRIBED AS THAT BY NY1. IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO SEE IT AND THINK IT WAS ANYTHING ELSE. EELEMOSYNARY HAS A VENDETTA HERE AND IS CONSTANTLY VANDALIZING THIS ARTICLE. -- )
- Please note the above "screaming caps" diatribe comes from one of the blankers of this Talk Page, namely ), and was later revised from the address of the other Talk Page blanker: ). Two birds with one stone. Cheers. Eleemosynary 20:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- More importantly note that WHAT HE IS SAYING IS FACTUALLY CORRECT, while the edit he refers to THAT YOU MADE is NOT ACCURATE and YOU THEREFORE POSTED FALSE INFORMATION. Funny how that point is of no interest to you. -- )
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- Wrong again. It's not a debate segment, nor is it billed as such. But it's nice to know you were blanking this Talk page under both anonymous IPs. The screaming caps and the sputtering rage give you away. Thanks for the heads-up! -- Eleemosynary 07:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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Also Eleemosynary, please note that the same exact blanking done of this article that you complain about, was also then done by Wikipedia Chairman Jim Wales, who, after evaluating what you did, obviously felt it was justified to correct your vandalism. The disrespect you (Eleemosynary) showed for him, by then removing his correction should also be noted. -- )
- Untrue. Jimmy Wales did not blank this talk page; you did. You are misrepresenting the facts. Such sputtering frustration is quite entertaining, however. By the way, here are the two edits you did immediately before coming back to this page today.[1][2] Quite telling. Eleemosynary 06:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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- WOULD EVERYONE READING THIS, PLEASE CHECK THE HISTORY PAGE FOR THEMSELVES,AND SEE THAT JIM WALES DID BLANK THE PAGE, IN ORDER TO RESTORE IT, AT: 19:38, on 22 June 2006. PLEASE LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF ON THE HISTORY PAGE TO VERIFY IT. -- )
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- Wales never blanked the Talk page. He made a reversion on the article page, in correlation with Danny's reversion. The issue was discussed with Danny and several administrators/editors, and consensus against your excessive vandalism was reached. Repeat: Jimmy Wales never blanked the Talk page. Best you stop accusing him of it. Eleemosynary 07:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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- By all means, they should check the Talk Page history for any indication of Wales's blanking of it. You do know what a Talk Page and an Article page are, correct? Wales blanked nothing, and vandalized nothing. You did. Eleemosynary 07:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Sure they were. Here's another, similar one you made from your newest anon IP. (The edit summary, not the edit itself, is the rub.) [3]. Thanks for providing us with so much ammunition; it's tremendously convenient. Cheers. Eleemosynary 07:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] One Talk Page Blanker with 6 anon IDS (so far)
Another heads up. The same user that has blanked this talk page (and is currently screaming about "disrespect" above) is posting from at least six anon IPS.
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Two of these IPS have been blocked repeatedly, and have used the "I'm posting from a school" ruse to beg an administrator to undo the block. On June 25, several edits were made on this page around 4 AM Eastern Standard Time. Doubtful a school would have a public computer available at that time.
At least three of these IPs have been used solely to add PR to the page.
Eleemosynary 18:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A fun recent edit from 152.163.100.197
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- ... Bring back the fucking article you piece of shit unworthy admin. ) 04:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Can't wait for some more posts about "respect" from this class act. Eleemosynary 04:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh wait... here it is:
- NOTE: The article had been brought back by Wikipedia Chairman Jim Wales (at 19;38 on June 22, 2006). Eleemosynary then slapped Wales in the face by disrespectfully destroying Wales revision. Eleemosynary, your war against Simone makes you look silly and comical, but your trashing of Wales revision makes you seem like an anti-Wikipedia vandal. Whatever your angry agenda, at least show respect for the site and it's chairman. ) aka )
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- More lies and impotent sucking up. Typical (but amusing nonetheless). Eleemosynary 03:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible sources for this article
As a neutral editor, I supply these sources. I would suggest other editors stick to just the facts in the articles (especially the one coming from his current employer) and cite facts/achievements just like a termpaper. Ronbo76 05:55, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- Since no citations exist, I will create one using the first source. Ronbo76 06:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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- The WABC link is a press release, chock full of some of the most over-the-top POV imaginable. Be careful not to include any POV language from that release in the article. Should the ubiquitous anon pro-Simone editor include hype in the article, it will be reverted. Eleemosynary 06:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Please note: I did state, stick just to the facts. Ronbo76 06:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, spelling out things clearly on this page has never stopped the Simone PR-pusher. Eleemosynary 07:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Why is the reliable news article citing that Simone has filled in for Hannity being removed as "lies"? I have heard Simone fill in for Hannity before, we have a news article stating so, so what is the problem? I believe that Simone has filled in for Limbaugh too. I'm not a huge fan of Simone's either, he isn't as entertaining as Rush or Hannity.
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- Ah... it seems I've got a Wikistalker. Where is the reliable source citing that Simone has filled in for Hannity more than once? --Eleemosynary 20:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- Which is exactly why I adjusted the wording to be more in line with the source, "has filled in". That does not imply any number of appearances. And before you accuse me of Wikistalking, you should know that I am a Recent Changes patroller, and I use a program that feeds me every edit in real time from the IRC bots, so I show up in random articles all the time. When I see an edit that has a summary "remove unsourced", and I see a source being removed in that edit, I'm going to take a look at it. Normally, I would also issue a warning to the user, but in your case, I decided not to. - Crockspot 21:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- Ah... it seems I've got a Wikistalker. Where is the reliable source citing that Simone has filled in for Hannity more than once? --Eleemosynary 20:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm not buying it. You've been reverting my edits on a great deal of articles; your actions are bordering on harassment. (Make sure to add this diff to your sandbox.) --Eleemosynary 22:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome to file a complaint. BTW, could you two move your chat to the talk page instead of using null edit summaries? - Crockspot 05:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not buying it. You've been reverting my edits on a great deal of articles; your actions are bordering on harassment. (Make sure to add this diff to your sandbox.) --Eleemosynary 22:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Subbing for Hannity and Levin
Mentioning that Simone subs for Sean Hannity doesn't belong on Wikipedia because it's "resume building"? Are you &$%#'ing serious?!? It's factual, verifiable information that certainly does belong in Wikipedia. Bill Clinton's page mentions he was a Governor of Arkansas. I suppose that fact should be removed too...
Simone also subs for Mark Levin, and that is certainly worth a mention.
I think pointing out that Simone subs for Hannity and Levin tells visitors much about his political views without resorting to labels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.58.248.33 (talk) 19:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
