Talk:Mark Bunker

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[edit] Travolta autograph

Just to clarify. Mark Bunker held no signs, and, as far as I know wasn't directly threatened, but was a few feet away filming the protest. A third protestor, wearing a Xenu costume was working the other side of the street.

Before the incident with the "professional autograph hound", a Travolta representative appeared at the front door area of the theater and announced that Travolta would not sign autographs "...because of that sign", and suggested that the crowd fix the "problem" themselves. Apparently after some consideration of the implications of calling for mob violence, the rep returned and announced that "naturally, it's perfectly legal for this person to be protesting here, and he wasn't suggesting that anyone do anything violent".

Most of the crowd was merely confused by the entire exchange and never hostile. The "professional Autograph Hound" was the only person to show animosity of any kind.

Zinjifar (Joe Lynn) —The preceding comment was moved by Raymond Hill from the article to the talk page on 21:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] "Wise beard man"

A funny new meme - but you need to find a reference to it in a WP:RS/WP:V secondary source before you can stick it in the article. Cirt (talk) 16:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Is the youtube link of him saying it good enough?--Alexia Death the Grey (talk) 21:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
No. See my comment above of what would be satisfactory, re: secondary sources. Cirt (talk) 11:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Update, secondary source

There you go!  :) Cirt (talk) 21:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Good secondary source for bunker article: Toronto Star 202.161.71.161 (talk) 10:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I have added some information from that source to the article, but do not know how to reference. If someone could add the reference, that would be appreciated. 121.44.227.79 (talk) 03:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revert per NPOV and BLP

Can you please explain why you feel these policies negate mentioning the attacks that WBM has received from COS? 121.44.227.79 (talk) 03:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry, did you have a WP:RS/WP:V secondary source for this? Perhaps I just did not see it, but it looked like a WP:OR violation, no? Cirt (talk) 05:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
It is from the Toronto Star article linked above. There is a whole section on Mark Bunker in it, which contains the info about his harassment by the COS. 202.161.71.161 (talk) 09:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah, but having its entire own subsection seems a bit like too much undue weight. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. Could it not be mentioned in relation to the mention of him starting XenuTV?

"In response to his criticism, he has been picketed by scientologists"? 202.161.71.161 (talk) 09:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

The reference to the emmy he got does not exist the reference is a bio on Lena' Lewis makes no mention of an emmy or Mark Bunker as a matter of fact KUSI has no mention of Mark Bunker anywhere on it. And i dont think that using Mark Bunker's personal web site should be used as a reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hot Action Man (talkcontribs) 07:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Added the info back in with a cite to a secondary WP:RS/WP:V source. Cirt (talk) 08:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Overcite

Repeating the same references over and over again at the end of each sentence is a little much. Most of these can be combined and pushed to the end of the paragraph. AndroidCat (talk) 15:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

In topics such as this one that can be contentious, I tend to rather have cites at end of sentences. Plus - when the article gets expanded more, if there are only cites at ends of paragraphs it becomes very confusing to try to parse which cite at the end of paragraphs goes to what info. Cirt (talk) 15:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I do sorta think that the first 3 cites in the subsection Work in television aren't really that great, could be better off just using the cite to Toronto Star in that sentence. Cirt (talk) 15:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neopets

Viacom bought Neopets, which is owned by several prominent scientologists. Worth mentioning? klosterdev (talk) 02:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, not really - unless that is discussed in some sort of conjunction as related to Mark Bunker? Cirt (talk) 02:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Viacom was the company that sent the copyright infringement notice to YouTube that resulted in the shutting down of his channel. klosterdev (talk) 02:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Sounds pretty tangential to me. Cirt (talk) 03:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)