Talk:Mark Ashley
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Mark's penis size was referenced here- cock size of porn stars on AdultDVDTalk.com. Solcis 15:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I can't find a freely licensed image of Mark Ashley. So, if someone knows where to find one, please upload it here ASAP. Also, make sure that you list on this discussion page that you have found such a pic. Thanks. Solcis 23:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Problem with penis size information
The information in this article is used as criterion for inclusion in the list at Human penis size#Men famous for their large penis as well as Category:Men with unusually large penis. Now, more than 50 names have been included, and there have been objections raised strong enough that both the list and the category are currently targeted for deletion. Placing this posting uniformly on the talk pages of the articles concerned, I would firstly encourage editors to make sure reliable sourcing is provided to support the claims regarding penis size. Secondly, editors might wish to involve themselves in the discussions taking place at Talk:Human penis size and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. __meco 13:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] While there may be...
...some potential factual information removed, your edits clearly intend to create a page that reads like a fan site.
There is no reason for you to INSIST that people use the discussion pages when making significant edits if the edits are valid -which they are- and within Wikistandards...unless you have some reason to keep this reading as a fan page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.189.210 (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- How so? What does a purported "fan site" look like on Wikipedia (as opposed to a legitimate adult star bio)? What, specifically, do you dispute in the article? How does it not conform to Wikipedia standards? And does it not meet the practical standards set forth by the rest of the adult film star articles on Wikipedia? If not, why not? Calling your edits "valid" doesn't mean anything without an explanation.
- -Solcis (talk) 08:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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- So-called "fan sites" on wikipedia include information that is not or can not be verified by other sources and appear to only be included to boost the reputation of the article's subject.
Some examples from this page:
"very well-endowed" links to penis size , which may be highly subjective.
"His penis is amongst the largest of all male porn stars, as attested to by Jewel DeNyle and Bridgette Kerkove. Both women claim that his penis is 9 inches in length.[1]"
A- Nowhere does it say in the referenced article that he is 'among the largest'.
B- Reference is from a chat forum and there is no proof that these postings are actually by those that have been quoted, only that they are using those usernames.
C- Those quoted, while possibly may be quite sexually experienced, doubtfully have tape measures inside their vaginas. Measurements should source from scientific resources, not "assumptions" and estimations, otherwise this adds to the vibe of a fansite.
His girth is also very large and is estimated to be at least 6 inches at the mid shaft.
"Very large" is subjective in tone and "estimated" offers no source or factual data. Estimated by whom? When? According to which scale?
"Ashley is known for his exceptional sexual skill, which allows him to make his female co-stars consistently orgasm. A great deal of Ashley's performances have led his co-stars to experience multiple orgasms through a combination of expert cunnilingus, fingering and thrusting techniques. In addition, he has made many starlets ejaculate, most of whom had never ejaculated before. First-time female ejaculators with Ashley include starlets such as Teagan Presley, Nadia Nyce, Jada Fire, and even Tianna Lynn who has since gone on to feature her copious ejaculation abilities in many other films.
The above is COMPLETELY without source or verifiability.
A- "Expert sexual skill" according to whom? What exactly is a "thrusting technique"? Who determines status of "expert" cunnilingus? Did he participate in the Olympic Cunnilingus Team Qualification Rounds? Did he minor in Thrusting technique at Harvard?
B- Female pornography actresses have been know to fake their orgasms. Consistently. Also have been know to lie about the pleasure they received in their performances to SELL THEIR PRODUCT, lending even more to the tone as a fansite.
C- Section about female ejaculation is not sourced.
Lastly, just because this article may or may not meet "practical standards set forth by the rest of the adult film star articles on Wikipedia" does not mean this article in and of itself meets WikiStandards. Perhaps one should clean up those other articles with tone issues as well.
- So-called "fan sites" on wikipedia include information that is not or can not be verified by other sources and appear to only be included to boost the reputation of the article's subject.
Article has been wikified to meet standards and your "undoing of revisions" have been undone themselves. 74.72.53.149 (talk) 19:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
