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[edit] POV

The last paragraph sounds like it came from his PR manager. There's certainly some truth to what is said, but it seems excessively adulatory.

I also put back the statement about his 2004 suspension, and his placings in the 2001 and 2004 WSM contests. It looks like the same person(s) that added the last paragraph edited out anything remotely negative. There doesn't seem to be any reason to leave this out, since it's a simple statement of facts (as long as there's no speculation about the specifics of the suspension). Dsreyn 12:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Just noticed that some anon removed my POV comment. If others disagree about the POV issue, it should be discussed here. Dsreyn 02:40, 23 November 2005 (UTC)


The 450 KG squat and 320 KG bench at the bottom are surely not true also. Steve Kirit wrote a writeup on mariurz thats is posted somewhere on Jesse Marunde's web page and as I recall it was something around 280 KG for 2 reps. Bench Press as I recall was much lower. Somewhere in the 255-275 KG range. I also think the measurements in the thigh and possibly chest are inflated a bit. Having said all of that there is no doubt Mauriusz is incredible so I see no reason for anyone to have to inflate his static strength.


There is no reason to include a claim of lift weight that is not a verified lift in competition, or has been observed and verified by a neutral observer. Otherwise it's just speculation. At a minimum, it should read "Pudzianowski is alleged to have lifted xxxxx"

Also, if there is to be mention of the outcome of his 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2005 entries in the Met Rx Strongman competition, then there should be a full accounting of the 2004 result as well. In addition to being disqualified and suspended, he was forced to return his prize money, and was stripped of his ranking points. When he tested positive for the banned substance, he admitted guilt and waived his right to have a B sample tested.

Also the statement "Mariusz ... tries to maintain his modesty and keep sportsmanship his top priority" is somewhere between unsubstantiated opinion and public relations statement. An athlete from whom "sportsmanship [is] his top priority," would not knowingly, willfully, engage in a deliberate doping routine to try and cheat his way to victory -- which is exactly what Pudzianowski did in 2004. That statement should be stripped from the section along with all other unsubstantiated p.r.

--Counterpoint to previous-- IFSA does not test for steroids or performance enhancing substances. They do test for recreational drugs such as various forms of speed, and this was most likely the positive test. The IFSA does not want athletes dying in competition from heart attacks or other catastrophic problems caused by being under such heavy loads combined with the influence of speed. Such an event would probably torpedo the sport. One might notice that in their official press releases the IFSA never specified what drug caused the positive test, nor did they imply that it was a performance-enhancing substance. Therefore I doubt 'cheating' was the cause of the suspension.

I removed the POV label; I think we've cleaned up the unnecessary PR. Dsreyn 13:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible plagiarism

Two paragraphs of the biography appear to have been copied directly from http://pudzian.lid.com.pl/pudzian/?a=pudzian (looks like an official Mariusz site, though not the same one listed in the article), with a couple of changes to correct obvious typos. Seems like this violates Wikipedia policy.

Interestingly, his best bench press and squat as given on that page are significantly lower than the ones claimed in the Wikipedia article. Seems like a reference for the Wikipedia numbers might be a good idea, as these lifts seem pretty incredible even for Mariusz. Dsreyn 02:40, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Date of birth

As someone had previously mentioned here (recently removed by some anon), the Polish Wikipedia gives has year of birth as 1977. Dsreyn

DOB is not mentioned on his official website. It is mentioned, however, that he began competing at 16 and that he entered his first competition in December 1990. That would put his birth year as 1974. Additionally, the one-year ban after his 3rd place finish in 2004 was negotiable, depending on rehabilitation. Since he is on the circuit in 2005, the assumption would be that he sought rehab rather than sit out for a year.

There is a brief bio page for Mariusz on the Arnold Classic strongman contest site at http://www.arnoldsstrongestman.com/Mariusz%20Pudzianowski.htm which says that Mariusz is 27. That page looks like it was made for the 2004 contest (it has 2003 results, and he didn't compete in the 2005 contest), so the age given there is consistent with 1977 as his year of birth. This seems like a somewhat authoratative source, though it still disagrees with the bit mentioned above (competing at age 16 in 1990). Dsreyn 13:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Measurements & Stats

According to his official site his measurements are biceps 56cm, nape 54cm, waist 92cm, thigh 80cm, weight 132 kg, height 186cm, chest 148cm, forearm 45cm and he can bench press 275kg, squat 360kg, deadlift 395kg.

As as he does not officially compete in the three powerlifting lifts I consider his site to be the ultimate authority on what his "gym lifts" are and hence have included them accordingly. StrengthCoach 13:25, 18 December 2005 (UTC). Also, even if those were his numbers, the conversions are not correct. 400 KG is 880 pounds, not 981.
The page says his bench press is 5,563KG, that's like 9100lbs. That's like 12 times the Guiness record. That can't be right.--Legomancer 19:45, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
This page seems to be a favorite target of vandals lately. I put back the stats from his official site. Dsreyn

He looks a little older than 31or 32; don't ya think?

[edit] Polish remake of Conan - hoax

There is NO SUCH MOVIE! As a member of Polish fandom I'd surely knew that, but I haven't seen even anecdotal evidence. The pictures on pudzian.pl are only stylisations, and there is nothing about movie!. If you don't belive me: proove that I'm wrong by providing sources from IMDB or other source, per WP:V. A.J. 12:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Try here: [1] fbb_fan 03:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Mariusz aspires for a career in acting after his strongman career and has already starred in re-make of 'Conan the Barbarian' in Poland: that's exact quote from Wikipedia, the hoax spreads... A.J. 10:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
How can you say for sure that the quote was taken from Wikipedia, and not the other way around? It seems to me that if someone finds more references to this movie on the net, you can just reply "see, they copied the hoax from Wikipedia". Dsreyn 17:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I can say for sure, because I live in Poland and I'm a great SF-F fan: I'd know about the movie if there were only gossips about plans... I haven't seen a single poster, no news in Polis media, NOTHING. "Born To Be Big" is not a reliable source in this matter. I cannot say who made the hoax first: Wikipedia or Born2BBig, but that's a hoax for sure. A.J. 09:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The Polish version of Mariusz Pudzianowski's article has two movies listed. If anyone knows Polish and can translate the films' titles, I think they will reveal that there indeed was a Polish Conaan movie.--Screwball23 talk 02:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Wild Man and Wrong Number. They doesn't seem to have anything to do with Conan. Jogers (talk) 20:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prison

Mariusz served an 18 month sentance for battery & robbery in 2000/2001. He talked about it on numerous ocasions on Polish TV. He pleaded guilty to battery and not guilty to robbery. Pudzianowski explains that an argument occurred between him and another inividual and this led to a fight. As battery is not a crime in Poland unless the victim stays a minimum 7 days in a hospital, and is only punished on a civil filing the victim confessed that a golden neck chain was stolen in the event, so the crime could be pursued from the Polish crimminal law. [2] here, with the daughter of the Polish president Kwasniewski, Pudzianowski admits that he indeed did time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.199.198.237 (talk) 14:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this real?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.51.180.192 (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)