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[edit] Article Organization

This page seems too long and/or needs to be cleaned up. I'd propose creating separate sub-articles/entries History of the Maritimes, Geography of the Maritimes, and Economy of the Maritimes for the detailed information while maintaining only quick and dirty facts about the region in this article, along with a map. Anyone else have suggestions? Cheers, Plasma east 16:59, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Maritime Union

The article mentions occassional talks of a Maritime Union. Does anyone know what name or names have been proposed for said Union? Nik42 08:10, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I don't think a name was ever seriously discussed, given that the concept itself has proven difficult to arrive at, regarding consensus among the provinces. The name "Maritimes" has been in use since colonial days. I recall reading where the name "Atlantica" was proposed by journalists and possibly politicians during the last serious attempts during the 1960s, but these discussions resulted in regional inter-provincial cooperation and creation of several institutions rather than a formal union (ie. creation of Council of Maritime Premiers, Maritime Provinces Higher Education Commission, etc...)Plasma east 06:26, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Political Bias

The entire "politics" section of this article is biased and generated using opinion. Statements like "All three provinces were governed by provincial Progressive Conservative parties until 2006," are incorrect. Please ensure that submissions are factual.

Andrewmta 17:45, 8 Feb 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Scotia Bias?

Maybe I'm just crazy-which is a definate possibility-but it seems to me that this article is very Nova Scotia-centric. They do have the largest population of the three provinces, but New Brunswick is not that far behind, so personaly, I think NB should play a larger part in this article. Mylesmalley 23:32, 29 June 2005 (UTC)

I have trouble seeing why you find this bias. New Brunswick is fairly large I will grant you that but none of its cities are major cities. True, only Halifax serves as the only major city in Nova Scotia but it is also recognized as a major city internationally and it holds a large percentage of the population of the maritimes (15%). Also New Brunswick is fairly far behind if you didn't realize (NB - 757 100, NS - 937,889). That's almost 200 000 people and both province's don't grow very fast. Also obviously people from Nova Scotia are going to talk alot about their province and its not like us Nova Scotians are going to make New Brunswick seem insignificant I mean, I think we covered in the article that NB is fairly large and is a major contributer to the maritime community and if you want to add more depth into the New Brunswick side of the article then by all means do it (just make sure your facts are straight). I am agreeing with the point that New Brunswick could be talked a little bit more in depth in this article but really, I don't see how you can say that Nova Scotia is making themselves look better then New Brunswick because that's just not true. Theyab 07 15:19, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


Well, when discussing the history of the region, Nova Scotia was all of the lands of Acadia until the 1780s. So it can appear to be confusing, because all the history of the Maritimes in New Brunswick in, for example, 1760 was happening in Sunbury County, Nova Scotia as well. But I agree, generally, more NB stuff needs to be inserted. Be bold and put some in! WayeMason 12:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
If there is a Nova Scotia bias, I'll take the blame since I rewrote much of the history section many months ago. My intention was to highlight pre-history and aboriginal settlement, followed by European exploration and settlement (much of which was initially concentrated on the southern side of the Bay of Fundy), followed by the sparse Acadian settlements around the bay and elsewhere, etc. etc. The timeline and events probably need to be updated by someone who has the time to properly research it - things should be condensed too. I can't claim to be biased toward NS ahead of NB based on residency - I have lived in all 3 Maritime provinces and currently live outside of the region.
Also, I really wish people would use these discussion forums for intelligent discourse about the article at hand, and not highlight their own ignorance on issues such as this discussion about NS vs. NB, etc. The nice thing about Wikipedia is that if you feel there's a problem, edit it! Plasma east 01:47, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
I have a suggestion; why not create seperate sections for/against the provinces. This would allow for people to easily spot any biased comments and it would also allow for the re-organization this page so badly needs. Mind you the history section of the entire maritimes should stay as the articles is called "the martimes" and the history pretains to the entire martimes. Maybe a breif description of the history of each province, and maybe how the province interacts with the maritimes as a whole. Anyways just a suggestion, oh and sorry if I offended anyone, acted ignorant, or wrote some biased comments myself none of these were intentional. Anyways I hope to hear what you think. Theyab 22:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Decline is not the end of the story...

I think that its out of date to end the section with decline. Recover, maybe? WayeMason 02:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moratorium

I find it highly distressing that there really is no mention to the moratorium that has been placed in the area because of the over fishing of Cod. This is a huge impact on the region and many people have left or are living in poverty because so much of the economy was wiped out by this.-Bio2590 23:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Go to it my brother (or sister)... WayeMason 23:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the Cod Moratorium was not a significant blow to the Maritimes but to Newfoundland which, as is explained in the opening paragraphs, is not a part of the Martimes. - Jord 04:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Time heals all wounds, I guess, but I am pretty sure 12K direct jobs were lost in Nova Scotia alone. Cod was big on the south shore and french shore... but I have no facts to back that up, so thats why I am not adding it, its just what I vaguely remember. The economy here was more robust than NLs and it was less jobs, but it was still a big impact... or so I recall! WayeMason 19:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prohibition

Near the end of the article it says that the Maritime Provinces were strong supporters of alcohol prohibition. It then says that "some rural communities in Nova Scotia remain 'dry' to this day. Umm.. I'm pretty sure that's not true. If it is we'll need to find a source. Thomasiscool 02:11, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Check out these sources....
Prohibition ended provincially before World War II in NB and NS and in the late 1940s in PEI but many pro-temperance communities in Nova Scotia and PEI (they were largely rural) enacted laws banning the sale of alcohol when prohibition ended. Thus they became "dry communities" just like many remote communities in the Arctic remain dry to this very day. Granted, many NS dry communities have been holding plebescites in recent years to allow retail liquor outlets and restaurants to sell alcohol, but there are still quite a few out there. There just aren't many people living in them and they don't make the media's radar screen.
Plasma east 17:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Province

What did I hear on the news about a fourth province? I only heard a quick news commercial on CTV and it said something about the maritimes getting a fourth province but I couldnt find the news that discussed it

You probably saw something about the possibility of Cape Breton Island, part of Nova Scotia, becoming a separate province. There is a separatist group who are trying to make this happen, but in my opinion its very unlikely. Thomasiscool 14:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population Centres

I've found several major problems with the table about the biggest population centres in the Maritimes. One of them is thatsome counties in Nova Scotia are included and some are not. Then I read where it said that Kentville has a population of over 25 000, which is wrong (is this figure for an area of western Kings County rather than the town of Kentville?). Consequently, I have temporarily removed the table, and if I can find the facts, I will put it back in. Thomasiscool 14:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe those stats were provided by another editor who used the Census Agglomeration stats as provided by Statistics Canada. You are correct in that they are not the actual incorporated community but rather for the surrounding area that the community influences. Here's the link to Kentville (town) population [1] and here it is for the Kentville (Census Agglomeration) popualtion[2]
Plasma east 17:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)